MrMiyagi 0 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,1...2059435,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMiyagi 0 Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 Worryingly, he gives strong indication that Shola will be a regular next season. Wippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg 6 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Goal every other game under Roeder, if keeps that up I have no problem with it. We have certainly missed him this season, he is better than Sibierski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMiyagi 0 Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 Goal every other game under Roeder, if keeps that up I have no problem with it. We have certainly missed him this season, he is better than Sibierski. He isn't better than anyone. He won't keep 'a goal every other game' up just like Roeder didn't keep his winning run going. Shola had a little honeymoon purple patch under the new manager where a few bounced in off his knees. He's fucking shit and it's unbelievable that we're going to have to endure another season of it without anyone at the club acknowledging his shitness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg 6 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 (edited) Goal every other game under Roeder, if keeps that up I have no problem with it. We have certainly missed him this season, he is better than Sibierski. He isn't better than anyone. He won't keep 'a goal every other game' up just like Roeder didn't keep his winning run going. Shola had a little honeymoon purple patch under the new manager where a few bounced in off his knees. He's fucking shit and it's unbelievable that we're going to have to endure another season of it without anyone at the club acknowledging his shitness. He is going to be 3rd choice behind Martins and Owen, name me a player we can get, with our tight budget and the need for defenders who is going to come here and be second fiddle to Martins and Owen, he also offeres us another option to Martins and Owen. The critsism Ameobi gets from some is just stupid. He is a decent squad player, he has always had the ability to score goals just needed to be more consistent, he has scored goals in the Camp Nou away to Barcelona and away to Bayer Leverkusen in the Champions League to name a few, under Roeder he has shown some consistency and I hope he can carry that on when he returns from this injury. He can be frustrating to watch but selling him would do us no good when we need to focus most of our spending on the other end of the pitch this summer. Edited April 14, 2007 by Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31641 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Like him or hate him he was scoring regularly while carrying an injury, I don't think anyone reckons he's the next Pele but if the Owen/Martins partnership doesn't work out we may need him to play in most games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMiyagi 0 Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 Goal every other game under Roeder, if keeps that up I have no problem with it. We have certainly missed him this season, he is better than Sibierski. He isn't better than anyone. He won't keep 'a goal every other game' up just like Roeder didn't keep his winning run going. Shola had a little honeymoon purple patch under the new manager where a few bounced in off his knees. He's fucking shit and it's unbelievable that we're going to have to endure another season of it without anyone at the club acknowledging his shitness. He is going to be 3rd choice behind Martins and Owen, name me a player we can get, with our tight budget and the need for defenders who is going to come here and be second fiddle to Martins and Owen, he also offeres us another option to Martins and Owen. The critsism Ameobi gets from some is just stupid. He is a decent squad player, he has always had the ability to score goals just needed to be more consistent, he has scored goals in the Camp Nou away to Barcelona and away to Bayer Leverkusen in the Champions League to name a few, under Roeder he has shown some consistency and I hope he can carry that on when he returns from this injury. He can be frustrating to watch but selling him would do us no good when we need to focus most of our spending on the other end of the pitch this summer. We're aiming for top four? Well lets list our competitors first 3 strikers and decide if our 3rd choice is good enough... Saha Rooney Ole Gunnar/Smith Kuyt Bellamy Crouch Drogba Shevchenko Crespo/Kalou Henry 'The beast'! Van Persie/Adebayor/Walcott Keane Berbatov Defoe Ok, so would you like to tell me which of the above are worse than Shola? If you can't, then you should acknowledge that he is NOT good enough even as a third choice striker. As third choice he will play A LOT of games and he simply isn't up to it, that's if we do have ambitions to match the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg 6 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 (edited) Goal every other game under Roeder, if keeps that up I have no problem with it. We have certainly missed him this season, he is better than Sibierski. He isn't better than anyone. He won't keep 'a goal every other game' up just like Roeder didn't keep his winning run going. Shola had a little honeymoon purple patch under the new manager where a few bounced in off his knees. He's fucking shit and it's unbelievable that we're going to have to endure another season of it without anyone at the club acknowledging his shitness. He is going to be 3rd choice behind Martins and Owen, name me a player we can get, with our tight budget and the need for defenders who is going to come here and be second fiddle to Martins and Owen, he also offeres us another option to Martins and Owen. The critsism Ameobi gets from some is just stupid. He is a decent squad player, he has always had the ability to score goals just needed to be more consistent, he has scored goals in the Camp Nou away to Barcelona and away to Bayer Leverkusen in the Champions League to name a few, under Roeder he has shown some consistency and I hope he can carry that on when he returns from this injury. He can be frustrating to watch but selling him would do us no good when we need to focus most of our spending on the other end of the pitch this summer. We're aiming for top four? Well lets list our competitors first 3 strikers and decide if our 3rd choice is good enough... Saha Rooney Ole Gunnar/Smith Kuyt Bellamy Crouch Drogba Shevchenko Crespo/Kalou Henry 'The beast'! Van Persie/Adebayor/Walcott Keane Berbatov Defoe Ok, so would you like to tell me which of the above are worse than Shola? If you can't, then you should acknowledge that he is NOT good enough even as a third choice striker. As third choice he will play A LOT of games and he simply isn't up to it, that's if we do have ambitions to match the above. We want to be in the top 4, but think about it... we have fallen a long long way since the days of Sir Bobby Robson and we are a long way from there, next season a top 6 finish would be a sucess, saying we should be aiming for the top 4 with this squad is deluded. Answer me this, say we have £10 million this summer, maybe £15 at a push... You seriously want to spend that on another striker who is better than Ameobi rather than on a centre back, left back and a right back? Edited April 14, 2007 by Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMiyagi 0 Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 Like him or hate him he was scoring regularly while carrying an injury, I don't think anyone reckons he's the next Pele but if the Owen/Martins partnership doesn't work out we may need him to play in most games. No he wasn't. He scored in a few games. The word 'regularly' suggests he was consistently finding the net over a prolonged period, which he wasn't. He found the net (even blind squirrels find the odd nut) a few times over a short period. Does that prove that he isn't shit, despite 5 years of constantly reminding us with his performances that he actually is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMiyagi 0 Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 Goal every other game under Roeder, if keeps that up I have no problem with it. We have certainly missed him this season, he is better than Sibierski. He isn't better than anyone. He won't keep 'a goal every other game' up just like Roeder didn't keep his winning run going. Shola had a little honeymoon purple patch under the new manager where a few bounced in off his knees. He's fucking shit and it's unbelievable that we're going to have to endure another season of it without anyone at the club acknowledging his shitness. He is going to be 3rd choice behind Martins and Owen, name me a player we can get, with our tight budget and the need for defenders who is going to come here and be second fiddle to Martins and Owen, he also offeres us another option to Martins and Owen. The critsism Ameobi gets from some is just stupid. He is a decent squad player, he has always had the ability to score goals just needed to be more consistent, he has scored goals in the Camp Nou away to Barcelona and away to Bayer Leverkusen in the Champions League to name a few, under Roeder he has shown some consistency and I hope he can carry that on when he returns from this injury. He can be frustrating to watch but selling him would do us no good when we need to focus most of our spending on the other end of the pitch this summer. We're aiming for top four? Well lets list our competitors first 3 strikers and decide if our 3rd choice is good enough... Saha Rooney Ole Gunnar/Smith Kuyt Bellamy Crouch Drogba Shevchenko Crespo/Kalou Henry 'The beast'! Van Persie/Adebayor/Walcott Keane Berbatov Defoe Ok, so would you like to tell me which of the above are worse than Shola? If you can't, then you should acknowledge that he is NOT good enough even as a third choice striker. As third choice he will play A LOT of games and he simply isn't up to it, that's if we do have ambitions to match the above. We want to be in the top 4, but think about it... we have fallen a long long way since the days of Sir Bobby Robson and we are a long way from there, next season a top 6 finish would be a sucess, saying we should be aiming for the top 4 with this squad is deluded. I'm not saying we should be aiming for top 4 with this squad! That's why I'm saying ship out the shit, i.e Shola and others. If you believe we can't make top 4 with this squad why would you defend a player that clearly isn't of top 4 quality? Surely you'd want him replacing with a player of top 4 quality? Therefore I'm saying we should be aiming for top 4, but not with this squad. You're saying we shouldn't aim for top 4 with this squad then defend the players that are the culprits in our squad making us inferior to the top 4. Can't understand that, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMiyagi 0 Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 Goal every other game under Roeder, if keeps that up I have no problem with it. We have certainly missed him this season, he is better than Sibierski. He isn't better than anyone. He won't keep 'a goal every other game' up just like Roeder didn't keep his winning run going. Shola had a little honeymoon purple patch under the new manager where a few bounced in off his knees. He's fucking shit and it's unbelievable that we're going to have to endure another season of it without anyone at the club acknowledging his shitness. He is going to be 3rd choice behind Martins and Owen, name me a player we can get, with our tight budget and the need for defenders who is going to come here and be second fiddle to Martins and Owen, he also offeres us another option to Martins and Owen. The critsism Ameobi gets from some is just stupid. He is a decent squad player, he has always had the ability to score goals just needed to be more consistent, he has scored goals in the Camp Nou away to Barcelona and away to Bayer Leverkusen in the Champions League to name a few, under Roeder he has shown some consistency and I hope he can carry that on when he returns from this injury. He can be frustrating to watch but selling him would do us no good when we need to focus most of our spending on the other end of the pitch this summer. We're aiming for top four? Well lets list our competitors first 3 strikers and decide if our 3rd choice is good enough... Saha Rooney Ole Gunnar/Smith Kuyt Bellamy Crouch Drogba Shevchenko Crespo/Kalou Henry 'The beast'! Van Persie/Adebayor/Walcott Keane Berbatov Defoe Ok, so would you like to tell me which of the above are worse than Shola? If you can't, then you should acknowledge that he is NOT good enough even as a third choice striker. As third choice he will play A LOT of games and he simply isn't up to it, that's if we do have ambitions to match the above. We want to be in the top 4, but think about it... we have fallen a long long way since the days of Sir Bobby Robson and we are a long way from there, next season a top 6 finish would be a sucess, saying we should be aiming for the top 4 with this squad is deluded. Answer me this, say we have £10 million this summer, maybe £15 at a push... You seriously want to spend that on another striker who is better than Ameobi rather than on a centre back, left back and a right back? If you think it'd cost 10 million to get a striker better than Ameobi then you're deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg 6 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 (edited) Goal every other game under Roeder, if keeps that up I have no problem with it. We have certainly missed him this season, he is better than Sibierski. He isn't better than anyone. He won't keep 'a goal every other game' up just like Roeder didn't keep his winning run going. Shola had a little honeymoon purple patch under the new manager where a few bounced in off his knees. He's fucking shit and it's unbelievable that we're going to have to endure another season of it without anyone at the club acknowledging his shitness. He is going to be 3rd choice behind Martins and Owen, name me a player we can get, with our tight budget and the need for defenders who is going to come here and be second fiddle to Martins and Owen, he also offeres us another option to Martins and Owen. The critsism Ameobi gets from some is just stupid. He is a decent squad player, he has always had the ability to score goals just needed to be more consistent, he has scored goals in the Camp Nou away to Barcelona and away to Bayer Leverkusen in the Champions League to name a few, under Roeder he has shown some consistency and I hope he can carry that on when he returns from this injury. He can be frustrating to watch but selling him would do us no good when we need to focus most of our spending on the other end of the pitch this summer. We're aiming for top four? Well lets list our competitors first 3 strikers and decide if our 3rd choice is good enough... Saha Rooney Ole Gunnar/Smith Kuyt Bellamy Crouch Drogba Shevchenko Crespo/Kalou Henry 'The beast'! Van Persie/Adebayor/Walcott Keane Berbatov Defoe Ok, so would you like to tell me which of the above are worse than Shola? If you can't, then you should acknowledge that he is NOT good enough even as a third choice striker. As third choice he will play A LOT of games and he simply isn't up to it, that's if we do have ambitions to match the above. We want to be in the top 4, but think about it... we have fallen a long long way since the days of Sir Bobby Robson and we are a long way from there, next season a top 6 finish would be a sucess, saying we should be aiming for the top 4 with this squad is deluded. Answer me this, say we have £10 million this summer, maybe £15 at a push... You seriously want to spend that on another striker who is better than Ameobi rather than on a centre back, left back and a right back? If you think it'd cost 10 million to get a striker better than Ameobi then you're deluded. I'm not saying that, but it would certainly take about £4million or around about which would take away a hefty chunk from our transfer budget and it is defenders that we need. It is all about priorities right now. And you say Ameobi is not good enough for back up for a top 4 side, well he did it under Sir Bobby Robson? And he is a lot better now than he was then. Name me who you would want to see us sign who is better than Ameobi and who we can get for a very small fee so not to dent our budget that must be used to sign defenders. Edited April 14, 2007 by Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMiyagi 0 Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 (edited) Goal every other game under Roeder, if keeps that up I have no problem with it. We have certainly missed him this season, he is better than Sibierski. He isn't better than anyone. He won't keep 'a goal every other game' up just like Roeder didn't keep his winning run going. Shola had a little honeymoon purple patch under the new manager where a few bounced in off his knees. He's fucking shit and it's unbelievable that we're going to have to endure another season of it without anyone at the club acknowledging his shitness. He is going to be 3rd choice behind Martins and Owen, name me a player we can get, with our tight budget and the need for defenders who is going to come here and be second fiddle to Martins and Owen, he also offeres us another option to Martins and Owen. The critsism Ameobi gets from some is just stupid. He is a decent squad player, he has always had the ability to score goals just needed to be more consistent, he has scored goals in the Camp Nou away to Barcelona and away to Bayer Leverkusen in the Champions League to name a few, under Roeder he has shown some consistency and I hope he can carry that on when he returns from this injury. He can be frustrating to watch but selling him would do us no good when we need to focus most of our spending on the other end of the pitch this summer. We're aiming for top four? Well lets list our competitors first 3 strikers and decide if our 3rd choice is good enough... Saha Rooney Ole Gunnar/Smith Kuyt Bellamy Crouch Drogba Shevchenko Crespo/Kalou Henry 'The beast'! Van Persie/Adebayor/Walcott Keane Berbatov Defoe Ok, so would you like to tell me which of the above are worse than Shola? If you can't, then you should acknowledge that he is NOT good enough even as a third choice striker. As third choice he will play A LOT of games and he simply isn't up to it, that's if we do have ambitions to match the above. We want to be in the top 4, but think about it... we have fallen a long long way since the days of Sir Bobby Robson and we are a long way from there, next season a top 6 finish would be a sucess, saying we should be aiming for the top 4 with this squad is deluded. Answer me this, say we have £10 million this summer, maybe £15 at a push... You seriously want to spend that on another striker who is better than Ameobi rather than on a centre back, left back and a right back? If you think it'd cost 10 million to get a striker better than Ameobi then you're deluded. I'm not saying that, but it would certainly take about £4million or around about which would take away a hefty chunk from our transfer budget and it is defenders that we need. It is all about priorities right now. And you say Ameobi is not good enough for back up for a top 4 side, well he did it under Sir Bobby Robson? And he is a lot better now than he was then. Name me who you would want to see us sign who is better than Ameobi and who we can get for a very small fee so not to dent our budget that must be used to sign defenders. Yes but the difference was that he didn't get much time on the pitch under Bobby. As for priorities, we're not going to improve our league position without a decent back up striker, so replacing him is vital. Not at the expense of much needed defenders, but when Owen picks up his inevitable hamstring injury, we're going to be just as toothless in attack as we are now, and that makes a striker an urgent priority, because when we can't attack teams it invites pressure onto the teams defense, which I believe has been a key factor in our frailties over the last couple of seasons. I don't think our defense is TOTALLY shit (ok it's shit but not as bad as made out) and the reason it's constantly ridiculed is because our lack of attacking strength invites teams to put pressure on us. Take Keegan for example, our defense was shit back then, but didn't get found out as often because we had the ability to attack team. I'm not saying we should go back to those tactics, because I don't think we should, but I think you can have the best defense in the world and they'll concede goals against teams if there's no attacking outlet at the other end of the pitch. If either Owen/Martins get injured, which one of them WILL, then we'll have no outlet in Shola, because he's not good enough. That's why I think our attack and poor depth in attack needs urgently addressing, because it contributes to our poor defensive displays Edited April 14, 2007 by MrMiyagi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty 0 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 What's going on here then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMiyagi 0 Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 Name me who you would want to see us sign who is better than Ameobi and who we can get for a very small fee so not to dent our budget that must be used to sign defenders. Our talent scouts are paid thousands so I don't see why I should have to provide a response. If they do their job properly they'll be able to find cheap players that are better than Shola. Benni McCarthy and Mpenza are just a couple of this season's examples that half-decent strikers can be picked up on the cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally 0 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 "During January, at times, I was far too open - I do not see other managers being as open as I am. Get over yourself you fucking spastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg 6 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 (edited) Name me who you would want to see us sign who is better than Ameobi and who we can get for a very small fee so not to dent our budget that must be used to sign defenders. Our talent scouts are paid thousands so I don't see why I should have to provide a response. If they do their job properly they'll be able to find cheap players that are better than Shola. Benni McCarthy and Mpenza are just a couple of this season's examples that half-decent strikers can be picked up on the cheap. We only have one Scout, that is a problem that has already been identified and should be rectified soon. I just feel you are being over harsh on Ameobi simply because you don't like him and you are failing to see that he is capable of doing a job and the defence must be our priority. Edited April 14, 2007 by Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieshandy 0 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 A quality target man striker should be seen as a priority to be honest, to go in front of Martins and Ameobi. A left back and a right back and a covering style, leading centre half are also necessary. Where the money is going to come from I've no idea, but that's the fact of the matter at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMiyagi 0 Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 Name me who you would want to see us sign who is better than Ameobi and who we can get for a very small fee so not to dent our budget that must be used to sign defenders. Our talent scouts are paid thousands so I don't see why I should have to provide a response. If they do their job properly they'll be able to find cheap players that are better than Shola. Benni McCarthy and Mpenza are just a couple of this season's examples that half-decent strikers can be picked up on the cheap. We only have one Scout, that is a problem that has already been identified and should be rectified soon. I just feel you are being over harsh on Ameobi simply because you don't like him and you are failing to see that he is capable of doing a job and the defence must be our priority. No I've just explained that I feel that our lack of attacking strength puts pressure onto our defense. We could (not realistically) sign terry and ferdinand, but if we've got not attacking outlet, terry and rio would be under the kosh all game and we'd concede goals and our defense would still be shit. I'm not being harsh on Shola because I don't like him, I've just listed the strikers of the top 5 clubs in the country and every single one of them is better than Shola. How can you dismiss that evidence and accuse me of victimizing him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 What's going on here then? Thompers hates Shola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg 6 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Name me who you would want to see us sign who is better than Ameobi and who we can get for a very small fee so not to dent our budget that must be used to sign defenders. Our talent scouts are paid thousands so I don't see why I should have to provide a response. If they do their job properly they'll be able to find cheap players that are better than Shola. Benni McCarthy and Mpenza are just a couple of this season's examples that half-decent strikers can be picked up on the cheap. We only have one Scout, that is a problem that has already been identified and should be rectified soon. I just feel you are being over harsh on Ameobi simply because you don't like him and you are failing to see that he is capable of doing a job and the defence must be our priority. No I've just explained that I feel that our lack of attacking strength puts pressure onto our defense. We could (not realistically) sign terry and ferdinand, but if we've got not attacking outlet, terry and rio would be under the kosh all game and we'd concede goals and our defense would still be shit. I'm not being harsh on Shola because I don't like him, I've just listed the strikers of the top 5 clubs in the country and every single one of them is better than Shola. How can you dismiss that evidence and accuse me of victimizing him? How can you dismiss Sholas goal record under Roeder this season and last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMiyagi 0 Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 Name me who you would want to see us sign who is better than Ameobi and who we can get for a very small fee so not to dent our budget that must be used to sign defenders. Our talent scouts are paid thousands so I don't see why I should have to provide a response. If they do their job properly they'll be able to find cheap players that are better than Shola. Benni McCarthy and Mpenza are just a couple of this season's examples that half-decent strikers can be picked up on the cheap. We only have one Scout, that is a problem that has already been identified and should be rectified soon. I just feel you are being over harsh on Ameobi simply because you don't like him and you are failing to see that he is capable of doing a job and the defence must be our priority. No I've just explained that I feel that our lack of attacking strength puts pressure onto our defense. We could (not realistically) sign terry and ferdinand, but if we've got not attacking outlet, terry and rio would be under the kosh all game and we'd concede goals and our defense would still be shit. I'm not being harsh on Shola because I don't like him, I've just listed the strikers of the top 5 clubs in the country and every single one of them is better than Shola. How can you dismiss that evidence and accuse me of victimizing him? How can you dismiss Sholas goal record under Roeder this season and last season? Because it's over such a short period of time that I'm not fickle enough to change my opinion of him over that short period after witnessing years of him proving that he is extremely limited ability wise? Even in those games where he fluked a handful of goals, he still never put in anything other than average performances. Of course we could give him another 5 years to prove he's shit then everytime he has a little purple patch we can convince ourselves that he's up to it. That way we'll SURELY make the Champions League in no time at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg 6 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 (edited) Name me who you would want to see us sign who is better than Ameobi and who we can get for a very small fee so not to dent our budget that must be used to sign defenders. Our talent scouts are paid thousands so I don't see why I should have to provide a response. If they do their job properly they'll be able to find cheap players that are better than Shola. Benni McCarthy and Mpenza are just a couple of this season's examples that half-decent strikers can be picked up on the cheap. We only have one Scout, that is a problem that has already been identified and should be rectified soon. I just feel you are being over harsh on Ameobi simply because you don't like him and you are failing to see that he is capable of doing a job and the defence must be our priority. No I've just explained that I feel that our lack of attacking strength puts pressure onto our defense. We could (not realistically) sign terry and ferdinand, but if we've got not attacking outlet, terry and rio would be under the kosh all game and we'd concede goals and our defense would still be shit. I'm not being harsh on Shola because I don't like him, I've just listed the strikers of the top 5 clubs in the country and every single one of them is better than Shola. How can you dismiss that evidence and accuse me of victimizing him? How can you dismiss Sholas goal record under Roeder this season and last season? Because it's over such a short period of time that I'm not fickle enough to change my opinion of him over that short period after witnessing years of him proving that he is extremely limited ability wise? Even in those games where he fluked a handful of goals, he still never put in anything other than average performances. Of course we could give him another 5 years to prove he's shit then everytime he has a little purple patch we can convince ourselves that he's up to it. That way we'll SURELY make the Champions League in no time at all! If he is so shit, why have Sir Bobby Robson, Greame Souness and Roeder all rated him? Edited April 14, 2007 by Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47361 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 You're wasting your time Gregg, mate. Facts mean nothing in the face of an OMG HES SHIT1111 argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMiyagi 0 Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 (edited) Name me who you would want to see us sign who is better than Ameobi and who we can get for a very small fee so not to dent our budget that must be used to sign defenders. Our talent scouts are paid thousands so I don't see why I should have to provide a response. If they do their job properly they'll be able to find cheap players that are better than Shola. Benni McCarthy and Mpenza are just a couple of this season's examples that half-decent strikers can be picked up on the cheap. We only have one Scout, that is a problem that has already been identified and should be rectified soon. I just feel you are being over harsh on Ameobi simply because you don't like him and you are failing to see that he is capable of doing a job and the defence must be our priority. No I've just explained that I feel that our lack of attacking strength puts pressure onto our defense. We could (not realistically) sign terry and ferdinand, but if we've got not attacking outlet, terry and rio would be under the kosh all game and we'd concede goals and our defense would still be shit. I'm not being harsh on Shola because I don't like him, I've just listed the strikers of the top 5 clubs in the country and every single one of them is better than Shola. How can you dismiss that evidence and accuse me of victimizing him? How can you dismiss Sholas goal record under Roeder this season and last season? Because it's over such a short period of time that I'm not fickle enough to change my opinion of him over that short period after witnessing years of him proving that he is extremely limited ability wise? Even in those games where he fluked a handful of goals, he still never put in anything other than average performances. Of course we could give him another 5 years to prove he's shit then everytime he has a little purple patch we can convince ourselves that he's up to it. That way we'll SURELY make the Champions League in no time at all! If he is so shit, why have Sir Bobby Robson, Greame Souness and Roeder all rated him? Because Freddy said "play that Ameobi lad, he's a geordie and a REAL fan favourite". Seriously though, I really don't think Robson or Souness do rate him, not to the magnitude that Rodent does. Robson rarely played him unless he was the last resort. He even brought Kluivert in because he realised that beyond Shearer and Bellamy, we only had Shola and realised that he isn't good enough. Souness signed Luque and Owen, both strikers, so he obviously realised that we weren't good enough up front. The two previous managers seemingly only gave Shola a game when others were injured, often just using him as a late sub. Rodent, however, seems to think Shola is an indispensable first teamer that is filling Shearer's boots. Edited April 14, 2007 by MrMiyagi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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