Bulut hopeful of Toon Move

[Scottish Mag 3]

Erol Bulut is hopeful that he has done enough to earn a permanent deal at Newcastle.

 

The Turkish full-back has been training with The Magpies over the past few days as he looked to impress manager Glenn Roeder.

 

Bulut is currently with Olympiakos - but he is out-of-contract at the end of the season and will be eligible for a free transfer in June.

 

The 32-year-old has spoken to skysports.com about how things have been going for him in England.

 

"I was told from my agent a few days ago that Newcastle wanted to give me a trial to because they are looking for a player for the left side," he told skysports.com.

 

"I came to Newcastle and I passed the medical exams. Today I took part in the training. I followed all the training, including the practice game and the tactics.

 

"I was welcomed by the players, the coach and the staff. Right now I am with Emre who has told me a lot of things about the club. Everything is perfect here. The facilities, the people, the city.

 

"I will now leave for Athens as they have the league game and they are all focused on this game.

 

"I think that at the beginning of the next week I am going to know if I will sign with Newcastle or not.

 

"My agent makes the contacts and he is going to discuss terms and conditions with them. If I am going to sign, its going to be for two years. I want to take the chance and prove myself in the Premier League playing for such a big club like Newcastle."

[Gemmill 47363]

Has no one told him he's only here to be mates with Emre?

[Sima 0]

Can I get paid £5k a week to be mates with Emre?

 

Infact, I'll do it for £2,500

Edited April 6, 2007 by Sima

[Guest Patrokles]

I don't recall any actual quotes re. the Emre thing, btw.

[Bombadil 0]

I don't recall any actual quotes re. the Emre thing, btw.

 

Don't you ever get tired of stupidly defending Roeder?

[luckyluke 2]

He's not getting a game because of Didier Domi, for fuck's sake. Defending Roeder over this one is the very definition of insane.

[Tooj 17]

He's not getting a game because of Didier Domi, for fuck's sake. Defending Roeder over this one is the very definition of insane.

Thought Domi was a decent player meself, although dunno what he's like now.

[Gejon 2]

He's not getting a game because of Didier Domi, for fuck's sake. Defending Roeder over this one is the very definition of insane.

Thought Domi was a decent player meself, although dunno what he's like now.

 

He was, just a religious nut

[ewerk 31641]

He's not getting a game because of Didier Domi, for fuck's sake. Defending Roeder over this one is the very definition of insane.

Thought Domi was a decent player meself, although dunno what he's like now.

 

He's hardly set the world alight since leaving us, I remember he was shite for Leeds in the while he was there.

[ewerk 31641]

I don't recall any actual quotes re. the Emre thing, btw.

 

Don't you ever get tired of stupidly defending Roeder?

 

Patrokles taking the minority view just to garner more attention? Surely not.

[Guest Patrokles]

I don't recall any actual quotes re. the Emre thing, btw.

 

Don't you ever get tired of stupidly defending Roeder?

 

Patrokles taking the minority view just to garner more attention? Surely not.

 

Ewerk talking shite again? Never.

 

For clarification, Bombadil, luke and G, there's nothing in what I said that actually defends Roeder. I was simply pointing out a fact. Here's another fact; your frequent acting of the asshole is far more of an attention-seek than my quite reasonable posts.

Edited April 6, 2007 by Patrokles

[Jimbo 175]

I don't recall any actual quotes re. the Emre thing, btw.

 

Don't you ever get tired of stupidly defending Roeder?

 

Patrokles taking the minority view just to garner more attention? Surely not.

 

Ewerk talking shite again? Never.

 

For clarification, Bombadil, luke and G, there's nothing in what I said that actually defends Roeder. I was simply pointing out a fact. Here's another fact; your frequent acting of the asshole is far more of an attention-seek than my quite reasonable posts.

 

 

Which reasonable posts ?

[Guest Patrokles]

I don't recall any actual quotes re. the Emre thing, btw.

 

Don't you ever get tired of stupidly defending Roeder?

 

Patrokles taking the minority view just to garner more attention? Surely not.

 

Ewerk talking shite again? Never.

 

For clarification, Bombadil, luke and G, there's nothing in what I said that actually defends Roeder. I was simply pointing out a fact. Here's another fact; your frequent acting of the asshole is far more of an attention-seek than my quite reasonable posts.

 

 

Which reasonable posts ?

 

 

[Baggio 0]

Could it be that he's coming in as a back up? with Bernard as good as out and Babayaro doing fuck all to deserve his big wages, could it be that Bulut could come in as back up to a better, first choice left back?

 

Whatever happens we're going to need to left backs and Babayaro's wages are (reportedly) too high for a second choice in that position.

[Guest Patrokles]

Could it be that he's coming in as a back up? with Bernard as good as out and Babayaro doing fuck all to deserve his big wages, could it be that Bulut could come in as back up to a better, first choice left back?

 

Whatever happens we're going to need to left backs and Babayaro's wages are (reportedly) too high for a second choice in that position.

 

Eminently possible.

[Isegrim 10035]

Could it be that he's coming in as a back up? with Bernard as good as out and Babayaro doing fuck all to deserve his big wages, could it be that Bulut could come in as back up to a better, first choice left back?

 

Whatever happens we're going to need to left backs and Babayaro's wages are (reportedly) too high for a second choice in that position.

 

Eminently possible.

Do you think that a 32 year old Turk who couldn't make it in the Jorman second division is the right quality to look at? Do you think it does contradict a lot of what Roeder said in the past?

[Baggio 0]

Could it be that he's coming in as a back up? with Bernard as good as out and Babayaro doing fuck all to deserve his big wages, could it be that Bulut could come in as back up to a better, first choice left back?

 

Whatever happens we're going to need to left backs and Babayaro's wages are (reportedly) too high for a second choice in that position.

 

Eminently possible.

Do you think that a 32 year old Turk who couldn't make it in the Jorman second division is the right quality to look at? Do you think it does contradict a lot of what Roeder said in the past?

 

No and yes.

[Guest Patrokles]

Could it be that he's coming in as a back up? with Bernard as good as out and Babayaro doing fuck all to deserve his big wages, could it be that Bulut could come in as back up to a better, first choice left back?

 

Whatever happens we're going to need to left backs and Babayaro's wages are (reportedly) too high for a second choice in that position.

 

Eminently possible.

Do you think that a 32 year old Turk who couldn't make it in the Jorman second division is the right quality to look at? Do you think it does contradict a lot of what Roeder said in the past?

 

Not as a first choice, no. It would contradict what he's said if Bulut were to be signed as a first choice, yes.

[Isegrim 10035]

Could it be that he's coming in as a back up? with Bernard as good as out and Babayaro doing fuck all to deserve his big wages, could it be that Bulut could come in as back up to a better, first choice left back?

 

Whatever happens we're going to need to left backs and Babayaro's wages are (reportedly) too high for a second choice in that position.

 

Eminently possible.

Do you think that a 32 year old Turk who couldn't make it in the Jorman second division is the right quality to look at? Do you think it does contradict a lot of what Roeder said in the past?

 

Not as a first choice, no. It would contradict what he's said if Bulut were to be signed as a first choice, yes.

IMHO it is a weird move - even as a back up. This year's injury problems have shown that there is the possibility that you actually have to play backup players. Shouldn't they be somewhat closer to Premierleague standard than a has been from the lower leagues of Europe?

 

And why doesn't it contradict what Roeder said? He said that he is only looking at young players with their future ahead of them and not at players who are past it. There was no distinction between first team and back up players. And he wanted to be judged by the "quality" of players he brings to the club himself.

Edited April 6, 2007 by Isegrim

[Isegrim 10035]

Could it be that he's coming in as a back up? with Bernard as good as out and Babayaro doing fuck all to deserve his big wages, could it be that Bulut could come in as back up to a better, first choice left back?

 

Whatever happens we're going to need to left backs and Babayaro's wages are (reportedly) too high for a second choice in that position.

 

Eminently possible.

Do you think that a 32 year old Turk who couldn't make it in the Jorman second division is the right quality to look at? Do you think it does contradict a lot of what Roeder said in the past?

 

No and yes.

I didn't even remember him from his time in Jormany. And neither did a Frankfurt season ticket holder I was speaking to.

 

I also asked a 1860 fan who wanted to know in which division Newcastle will be playing next season...

[Fop 1]

Could it be that he's coming in as a back up? with Bernard as good as out and Babayaro doing fuck all to deserve his big wages, could it be that Bulut could come in as back up to a better, first choice left back?

 

Whatever happens we're going to need to left backs and Babayaro's wages are (reportedly) too high for a second choice in that position.

 

Eminently possible.

Do you think that a 32 year old Turk who couldn't make it in the Jorman second division is the right quality to look at? Do you think it does contradict a lot of what Roeder said in the past?

 

Not as a first choice, no. It would contradict what he's said if Bulut were to be signed as a first choice, yes.

IMHO it is a weird move - even as a back up. This year's injury problems have shown that there is the possibility that you actually have to play backup players. Shouldn't they be somewhat closer to Premierleague standard than a has been from the lower leagues of Europe?

 

And why doesn't it contradict what Roeder said? He said that he is only looking at young players with their future ahead of them and not at players who are past it. There was no distinction between first team and back up players. And he wanted to be judged by the "quality" of players he brings to the club himself.

 

 

That's a good theory, but with NUFC in the last few years it is only a theory.

 

These days we probably don't have 11 players that fit that bill, or at least not a full first team that does.

 

I'd be happier with a LB that could actually play as a LB rather than having to use someone that is completely out of postion (and shows it) for cover instead.

 

And the thing about him might be that he's probably fairly cheap, in wages and in no fee.

 

Now I don't know about his quality, which is I guess what they are looking at, but if he's played for Olympiakos he is likely to be better than an 18 year old RB with no first team experience at all.

 

The fact unfortunately is at the moment we'll be lucky to be able to afford a quality full first team (which is something that worries me about the touted wholesale clearout - incase we really stuggle to get quality and bodies back in), never mind quality back up in all those positions as well.

 

 

 

 

 

As for whether Roeder has changed his mind or not, broadly what he'd said about younger players is the way forward (and largely was what Robson did), however in specific instances it is silly not to make exceptions (like with Campbell last season - easily Roeder's worst move IMO), and if he's learnt that (which I expect actually he knew all along, he signed Le Sib in the end after all) then that can only be a good thing.

 

Of course if we had an academy network like Man U then we probably could have the best of ALL worlds (cheap cover in the right position with decent quailty and potential), but we don't (we don't even have a first team scouting network it seem ) yet and unless we get some success on the field maybe never can.

[luckyluke 2]

Could it be that he's coming in as a back up? with Bernard as good as out and Babayaro doing fuck all to deserve his big wages, could it be that Bulut could come in as back up to a better, first choice left back?

 

Whatever happens we're going to need to left backs and Babayaro's wages are (reportedly) too high for a second choice in that position.

 

Why are we buying a back up left back though? We need someone who can play in the position ahead of Babyaro, not as cover for him.

[Guest Patrokles]

Could it be that he's coming in as a back up? with Bernard as good as out and Babayaro doing fuck all to deserve his big wages, could it be that Bulut could come in as back up to a better, first choice left back?

 

Whatever happens we're going to need to left backs and Babayaro's wages are (reportedly) too high for a second choice in that position.

 

Why are we buying a back up left back though? We need someone who can play in the position ahead of Babyaro, not as cover for him.

 

His point, I believe, was that maybe we're getting rid of Babayaro, and so need someone to replace him as second-choice. A free transfer is therefore reasonable.

[DanTheMan 0]

Can I get paid £5k a week to be mates with Emre?

 

Infact, I'll do it for £2,500

 

To be fair, I think they should be paying Emre.

[luckyluke 2]

Could it be that he's coming in as a back up? with Bernard as good as out and Babayaro doing fuck all to deserve his big wages, could it be that Bulut could come in as back up to a better, first choice left back?

 

Whatever happens we're going to need to left backs and Babayaro's wages are (reportedly) too high for a second choice in that position.

 

Why are we buying a back up left back though? We need someone who can play in the position ahead of Babyaro, not as cover for him.

 

His point, I believe, was that maybe we're getting rid of Babayaro, and so need someone to replace him as second-choice. A free transfer is therefore reasonable.

 

Well maybe, but buying the reserve player first is a very backward way of doing things.