Fop 1 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 I'm very interested in the "right" answer to this, although I don't believe there is one. I've just given you it. It's fairly obvious to me. "Yes, with 7 points between us and the relegation zone, you would have to say we're being sucked into a relegation battle and we need to pull ourselves clear before things get any worse." He's fooling nobody (except you, it seems ) by saying that we aren't. We're currently 11th so that mean HALF THE LEAGUE IS IN A RELEGATION BATTLE!!!!!! Yes lose a few more and we may genuinely BE in a relegation battle (which would be a good reason to BOOST morale not DESTROY it I'd have thought - maddness I know ) Are you really saying "half the league is in a relegation battle"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47361 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 Tbh, I couldn't give a fuck anyway. Who gives a shit what the right answer is? It's not even worth arguing about. He's a shit manager doing a shit job. That's why his daft patter is all the more annoying. He could say what he wanted more or less if he was doing something approaching a decent job. That's not to say he shouldn't get pulled up when he talks shit (again btw). Aye, pretty much sums the situation up. I really do dislike the bloke now though. After the summer transfer window I was pretty much out of goodwill for him. By the end of January, I'd just had more than enough of him, and with the stupid press comments coming in quicker than any decent results I like him less and less by the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieshandy 0 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 If half the teams in the league are only two games from safety then yes half the league is a relegation battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 Tbh, I couldn't give a fuck anyway. Who gives a shit what the right answer is? It's not even worth arguing about. He's a shit manager doing a shit job. That's why his daft patter is all the more annoying. He could say what he wanted more or less if he was doing something approaching a decent job. That's not to say he shouldn't get pulled up when he talks shit (again btw). Aye, pretty much sums the situation up. I really do dislike the bloke now though. After the summer transfer window I was pretty much out of goodwill for him. By the end of January, I'd just had more than enough of him, and with the stupid press comments coming in quicker than any decent results I like him less and less by the day. It's a media blitz!11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burch 0 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 (edited) Totally off-topic sorry, but is that site detailing the Hitzfeld wind-up still around? Edited April 2, 2007 by Burch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 I think the point is, to ignore the facts that we're only 7 points clear of relegation is either a) very stupid or b ) complete head in the sand stuff. This is just one in a long line of comments that make him look like he's on a different planet to the rest of us. Tomorrow, Glenn tells reporters we're still in with a shot at the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10035 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 I'm very interested in the "right" answer to this, although I don't believe there is one. I've just given you it. It's fairly obvious to me. "Yes, with 7 points between us and the relegation zone, you would have to say we're being sucked into a relegation battle and we need to pull ourselves clear before things get any worse." He's fooling nobody (except you, it seems ) by saying that we aren't. We're currently 11th so that mean HALF THE LEAGUE IS IN A RELEGATION BATTLE!!!!!! Yes lose a few more and we may genuinely BE in a relegation battle (which would be a good reason to BOOST morale not DESTROY it I'd have thought - maddness I know ) Are you really saying "half the league is in a relegation battle"? What is so funny about half the league actually being in a relegation battle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 Totally off-topic sorry, but is that site detailing the Hitzfeld wind-up still around? ....Baggio is using it as a template for his new Houllier site iirc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 Tbh, I couldn't give a fuck anyway. Who gives a shit what the right answer is? It's not even worth arguing about. He's a shit manager doing a shit job. That's why his daft patter is all the more annoying. He could say what he wanted more or less if he was doing something approaching a decent job. That's not to say he shouldn't get pulled up when he talks shit (again btw). Clearly no one here (because alarmingly Roeder probably gave the closest thing to a right answer there is). Don't let that stop the pointless whinging about it though. The admission that it doesn't matter what he says IS my point though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47361 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 I'm very interested in the "right" answer to this, although I don't believe there is one. I've just given you it. It's fairly obvious to me. "Yes, with 7 points between us and the relegation zone, you would have to say we're being sucked into a relegation battle and we need to pull ourselves clear before things get any worse." He's fooling nobody (except you, it seems ) by saying that we aren't. We're currently 11th so that mean HALF THE LEAGUE IS IN A RELEGATION BATTLE!!!!!! Yes lose a few more and we may genuinely BE in a relegation battle (which would be a good reason to BOOST morale not DESTROY it I'd have thought - maddness I know ) Are you really saying "half the league is in a relegation battle"? Are you gunning for the "Most Annoying Newcomer" award this year or something? No offence like, but you're acting like a proper fucking tit. The laughing smilies after patently unfunny comments are a big no-no btw. We're 7 points off relegation, and we can't win a game for fucking toffee, at home or away. Other teams may have momentum on their side, we don't. Are you really as fucking dense as you're making out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 If half the teams in the league are only two games from safety then yes half the league is a relegation battle. Plus our recent form and performances, the next few matches we have etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burch 0 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 Only ask as someone on my (non football) board has persuaded one of his mates that Les Ferdinand would like to have a kick about in their 5-a-side matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 Tbh, I couldn't give a fuck anyway. Who gives a shit what the right answer is? It's not even worth arguing about. He's a shit manager doing a shit job. That's why his daft patter is all the more annoying. He could say what he wanted more or less if he was doing something approaching a decent job. That's not to say he shouldn't get pulled up when he talks shit (again btw). Clearly no one here (because alarmingly Roeder probably gave the closest thing to a right answer there is). Don't let that stop the pointless whinging about it though. The admission that it doesn't matter what he says IS my point though. Is this an "I was right" post? My post was really an around about way of saying I can't be arsed to argue about it, I'll agree to differ or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 Tbh, I couldn't give a fuck anyway. Who gives a shit what the right answer is? It's not even worth arguing about. He's a shit manager doing a shit job. That's why his daft patter is all the more annoying. He could say what he wanted more or less if he was doing something approaching a decent job. That's not to say he shouldn't get pulled up when he talks shit (again btw). Clearly no one here (because alarmingly Roeder probably gave the closest thing to a right answer there is). Don't let that stop the pointless whinging about it though. The admission that it doesn't matter what he says IS my point though. Is this an "I was right" post? My post was really an around about way of saying I can't be arsed to argue about it, I'll agree to differ or whatever. Fop, I think the general consensus is that we're all getting sick of his daily utterances and his uncanny knack of stating the obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 I'm very interested in the "right" answer to this, although I don't believe there is one. I've just given you it. It's fairly obvious to me. "Yes, with 7 points between us and the relegation zone, you would have to say we're being sucked into a relegation battle and we need to pull ourselves clear before things get any worse." He's fooling nobody (except you, it seems ) by saying that we aren't. We're currently 11th so that mean HALF THE LEAGUE IS IN A RELEGATION BATTLE!!!!!! Yes lose a few more and we may genuinely BE in a relegation battle (which would be a good reason to BOOST morale not DESTROY it I'd have thought - maddness I know ) Are you really saying "half the league is in a relegation battle"? What is so funny about half the league actually being in a relegation battle? Is that really how you would describe the league at the moment? Potentially it's "true" if the entire lower half of the league loses all its matches (which is of course impossible as when they play each other as some will then some must at least draw). But in reality it is not the case at all, only for the most pants on the head hysteria ravings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 (edited) I'm very interested in the "right" answer to this, although I don't believe there is one. I've just given you it. It's fairly obvious to me. "Yes, with 7 points between us and the relegation zone, you would have to say we're being sucked into a relegation battle and we need to pull ourselves clear before things get any worse." He's fooling nobody (except you, it seems ) by saying that we aren't. We're currently 11th so that mean HALF THE LEAGUE IS IN A RELEGATION BATTLE!!!!!! Yes lose a few more and we may genuinely BE in a relegation battle (which would be a good reason to BOOST morale not DESTROY it I'd have thought - maddness I know ) Are you really saying "half the league is in a relegation battle"? Are you gunning for the "Most Annoying Newcomer" award this year or something? No offence like, but you're acting like a proper fucking tit. The laughing smilies after patently unfunny comments are a big no-no btw. We're 7 points off relegation, and we can't win a game for fucking toffee, at home or away. Other teams may have momentum on their side, we don't. Are you really as fucking dense as you're making out? Given the personal attacks you repeatedly make learn to take a few emoticons. Edited April 2, 2007 by Fop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47361 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 I'm very interested in the "right" answer to this, although I don't believe there is one. I've just given you it. It's fairly obvious to me. "Yes, with 7 points between us and the relegation zone, you would have to say we're being sucked into a relegation battle and we need to pull ourselves clear before things get any worse." He's fooling nobody (except you, it seems ) by saying that we aren't. We're currently 11th so that mean HALF THE LEAGUE IS IN A RELEGATION BATTLE!!!!!! Yes lose a few more and we may genuinely BE in a relegation battle (which would be a good reason to BOOST morale not DESTROY it I'd have thought - maddness I know ) Are you really saying "half the league is in a relegation battle"? What is so funny about half the league actually being in a relegation battle? Is that really how you would describe the league at the moment? Potentially it's "true" if the entire lower half of the league loses all its matches (which is of course impossible as when they play each other as some will then some must at least draw). But in reality it is not the case at all, only for the most pants on the head hysteria ravings. The fact that one team has to win a game and the other by definition has to lose it doesn't mean that both teams aren't in the battle, does it? Seriously, are you stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47361 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 I'm very interested in the "right" answer to this, although I don't believe there is one. I've just given you it. It's fairly obvious to me. "Yes, with 7 points between us and the relegation zone, you would have to say we're being sucked into a relegation battle and we need to pull ourselves clear before things get any worse." He's fooling nobody (except you, it seems ) by saying that we aren't. We're currently 11th so that mean HALF THE LEAGUE IS IN A RELEGATION BATTLE!!!!!! Yes lose a few more and we may genuinely BE in a relegation battle (which would be a good reason to BOOST morale not DESTROY it I'd have thought - maddness I know ) Are you really saying "half the league is in a relegation battle"? Are you gunning for the "Most Annoying Newcomer" award this year or something? No offence like, but you're acting like a proper fucking tit. The laughing smilies after patently unfunny comments are a big no-no btw. We're 7 points off relegation, and we can't win a game for fucking toffee, at home or away. Other teams may have momentum on their side, we don't. Are you really as fucking dense as you're making out? Given the personal attacks you repeatedly make learn to take a few emoticons. Given the obnoxious and ridiculous stances you consistently take on here, learn to take the personal attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 From the viewpoint Fop initially took, I got the impression he thought that we were in a relegation battle but Roeder didn't need to say that. Now he's saying we aren't even in a relegation battle. Unless I've missed something. Not that I'm suggesting he's argumentative enough to contradict himself in the space of two pages or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 I'm very interested in the "right" answer to this, although I don't believe there is one. I've just given you it. It's fairly obvious to me. "Yes, with 7 points between us and the relegation zone, you would have to say we're being sucked into a relegation battle and we need to pull ourselves clear before things get any worse." He's fooling nobody (except you, it seems ) by saying that we aren't. We're currently 11th so that mean HALF THE LEAGUE IS IN A RELEGATION BATTLE!!!!!! Yes lose a few more and we may genuinely BE in a relegation battle (which would be a good reason to BOOST morale not DESTROY it I'd have thought - maddness I know ) Are you really saying "half the league is in a relegation battle"? What is so funny about half the league actually being in a relegation battle? Is that really how you would describe the league at the moment? Potentially it's "true" if the entire lower half of the league loses all its matches (which is of course impossible as when they play each other as some will then some must at least draw). But in reality it is not the case at all, only for the most pants on the head hysteria ravings. The fact that one team has to win a game and the other by definition has to lose it doesn't mean that both teams aren't in the battle, does it? Seriously, are you stupid? Look at the table, it is possible we could be relegated yes, it is possible (it's probably possible Blackburn could be, not sure how many points are potentially left). It would require us to basically not pick any points up and whilst everyone else below us is though. If we were in Fulham's position now, it would be a valid issue, but we're not currently. And again I don't think any manager would say anything other than what Roeder has said, it's shooting yourself (and your team) in the foot at this moment. And again with your usual personal attacks I see (I take it that is fine here where as "" is not then? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fop 1 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 (edited) From the viewpoint Fop initially took, I got the impression he thought that we were in a relegation battle but Roeder didn't need to say that. Now he's saying we aren't even in a relegation battle. Unless I've missed something. Not that I'm suggesting he's argumentative enough to contradict himself in the space of two pages or anything. I think we have to win at the moment (or at least pick up points) to avoid it, but I personally don't class us (and 1/2 the league with us) as being in a "relegation battle" at this very moment (we were eariler in the season though). There's only 1 real relegation place up we could end up in unless something amazing happens. However even if Roeder did think we were, it still doesn't make sense to say so in our current position, lose a match or two and everyone else win, yes then it will be the case. Oh and I notice (as usual) that as you can't refute what I say you do the standard then and try to have a go a me personally instead. Edited April 2, 2007 by Fop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22592 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 I'm very interested in the "right" answer to this, although I don't believe there is one. I've just given you it. It's fairly obvious to me. "Yes, with 7 points between us and the relegation zone, you would have to say we're being sucked into a relegation battle and we need to pull ourselves clear before things get any worse." He's fooling nobody (except you, it seems ) by saying that we aren't. We're currently 11th so that mean HALF THE LEAGUE IS IN A RELEGATION BATTLE!!!!!! Yes lose a few more and we may genuinely BE in a relegation battle (which would be a good reason to BOOST morale not DESTROY it I'd have thought - maddness I know ) Are you really saying "half the league is in a relegation battle"? What is so funny about half the league actually being in a relegation battle? Is that really how you would describe the league at the moment? Potentially it's "true" if the entire lower half of the league loses all its matches (which is of course impossible as when they play each other as some will then some must at least draw). But in reality it is not the case at all, only for the most pants on the head hysteria ravings. The fact that one team has to win a game and the other by definition has to lose it doesn't mean that both teams aren't in the battle, does it? Seriously, are you stupid? Look at the table, it is possible we could be relegated yes, it is possible (it's probably possible Blackburn could be, not sure how many points are potentially left). It would require us to basically not pick any points up and whilst everyone else below us is though. If we were in Fulham's position now, it would be a valid issue, but we're not currently. And again I don't think any manager would say anything other than what Roeder has said, it's shooting yourself (and your team) in the foot at this moment. And again with your usual personal attacks I see (I take it that is fine here where as "" is not then? ) We need at least 3 points to avoid relegation I reckon. With the way we're playing, the way other teams are playing, and looking at the fixtures, it's possible we won't get another point. If we lose the Easter weekend games, we are right in the shit. Do you seriously think our team have the bottle for a relegation battle? Does Roeder's past record not concern you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 From the viewpoint Fop initially took, I got the impression he thought that we were in a relegation battle but Roeder didn't need to say that. Now he's saying we aren't even in a relegation battle. Unless I've missed something. Not that I'm suggesting he's argumentative enough to contradict himself in the space of two pages or anything. I think we have to win at the moment (or at least pick up points) to avoid it, but I personally don't class us (and 1/2 the league with us) as being in a "relegation battle" at this very moment (we were eariler in the season though). There's only 1 real relegation place up we could end up in unless something amazing happens. However even if Roeder did think we were, it still doesn't make sense to say so in our current position, lose a match or two and everyone else win, yes then it will be the case. Yeah but no but yeah but Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 I'm very interested in the "right" answer to this, although I don't believe there is one. I've just given you it. It's fairly obvious to me. "Yes, with 7 points between us and the relegation zone, you would have to say we're being sucked into a relegation battle and we need to pull ourselves clear before things get any worse." He's fooling nobody (except you, it seems ) by saying that we aren't. We're currently 11th so that mean HALF THE LEAGUE IS IN A RELEGATION BATTLE!!!!!! Yes lose a few more and we may genuinely BE in a relegation battle (which would be a good reason to BOOST morale not DESTROY it I'd have thought - maddness I know ) Are you really saying "half the league is in a relegation battle"? What is so funny about half the league actually being in a relegation battle? Is that really how you would describe the league at the moment? Potentially it's "true" if the entire lower half of the league loses all its matches (which is of course impossible as when they play each other as some will then some must at least draw). But in reality it is not the case at all, only for the most pants on the head hysteria ravings. The fact that one team has to win a game and the other by definition has to lose it doesn't mean that both teams aren't in the battle, does it? Seriously, are you stupid? Look at the table, it is possible we could be relegated yes, it is possible (it's probably possible Blackburn could be, not sure how many points are potentially left). It would require us to basically not pick any points up and whilst everyone else below us is though. If we were in Fulham's position now, it would be a valid issue, but we're not currently. And again I don't think any manager would say anything other than what Roeder has said, it's shooting yourself (and your team) in the foot at this moment. And again with your usual personal attacks I see (I take it that is fine here where as "" is not then? ) We need at least 3 points to avoid relegation I reckon. With the way we're playing, the way other teams are playing, and looking at the fixtures, it's possible we won't get another point. If we lose the Easter weekend games, we are right in the shit. Do you seriously think our team have the bottle for a relegation battle? Does Roeder's past record not concern you? Again this is a reason NOT to say "oh no we're fucked, panic, panic, panic, we're doomed, we're doomed heeeellllpppp........" or indeed to "answer" such question with a stoney silence. What he said was probably about the best way to answer it. There's quite a lot to pick Roeder up on, and his ability (or lack of) to motivate the team this season is one of them, but his comments here are NOT one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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