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For me I would have Roeder out this week, but I am aware of the 'voices of reason' saying end of season and perhaps they have a point. My main worry is that if Roeder isn't sent packing now FS won't start looking for another manager till the summer and probably leave it too late as usual.

 

On a side issue all this waiting for Shearer lark which is the worst kept secret plan 'A'..doesn't really bear up as he hasn't even finished his 'A' badge yet to go for the Uefa Pro 'B' license..So I'm esitmating Shearer is two years away at least.

 

Out now or wait till later?

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Shearer or not Roeder must go, Allardyce, Houllier or Van Gaal would be my preference.

 

 

...also Van Basten will be leaving the Dutch job in the summer. Van Gaal would be good.

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For me I would have Roeder out this week, but I am aware of the 'voices of reason' saying end of season and perhaps they have a point. My main worry is that if Roeder isn't sent packing now FS won't start looking for another manager till the summer and probably leave it too late as usual.

 

On a side issue all this waiting for Shearer lark which is the worst kept secret plan 'A'..doesn't really bear up as he hasn't even finished his 'A' badge yet to go for the Uefa Pro 'B' license..So I'm esitmating Shearer is two years away at least.

 

Out now or wait till later?

The problem I have with sacking Roeder now is that unless last season we don't have anyone in the ranks who could do a caretaker job. Pearson is the only one left who you would consider having sort of managing skills. Our coaching staff is as depleted in depth as is the playing staff.

 

But it is a must imho to work behind the scenes to make sure we have a new manager who can take over for next season and is getting already involved in the "planning".

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For me I would have Roeder out this week, but I am aware of the 'voices of reason' saying end of season and perhaps they have a point. My main worry is that if Roeder isn't sent packing now FS won't start looking for another manager till the summer and probably leave it too late as usual.

 

On a side issue all this waiting for Shearer lark which is the worst kept secret plan 'A'..doesn't really bear up as he hasn't even finished his 'A' badge yet to go for the Uefa Pro 'B' license..So I'm esitmating Shearer is two years away at least.

 

Out now or wait till later?

The problem I have with sacking Roeder now is that unless last season we don't have anyone in the ranks who could do a caretaker job. Pearson is the only one left who you would consider having sort of managing skills. Our coaching staff is as depleted in depth as is the playing staff.

 

But it is a must imho to work behind the scenes to make sure we have a new manager who can take over for next season and is getting already involved in the "planning".

 

 

Van Basten.

A players manager if ever there was one and a cool head.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Van_Basten

 

 

Bart Van Marjiwk.

Had success at Feynoord and coached at PSV before moving to Germany.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bert_van_Marwijk

 

Ronald Koeman.

Bags of experience played at Barca under Cruyff etc. Tough cookie.

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Van Marwijk is a good manager, but his final months at Dortmund make me very sceptical. He wasn't really committed to the job any more and had his mind rather set on a return to Holland (where he apparently spend most of the time).

 

I don't think van Basten will quit Holland (as long as he has the support of Cruijf) and I am not sure about Koeman.

 

If going Dutch I'd rather go for either van Gaal or Co Adrianse.

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Van Marwijk is a good manager, but his final months at Dortmund make me very sceptical. He wasn't really committed to the job any more and had his mind rather set on a return to Holland (where he apparently spend most of the time).

 

I don't think van Basten will quit Holland (as long as he has the support of Cruijf) and I am not sure about Koeman.

 

If going Dutch I'd rather go for either van Gaal or Co Adrianse.

 

I'm just happy you've heard of Marwijk. :crylaughin:

 

I'd bite the hand off either tbh.

 

Plus Van Gaal has a good big folder thing he waves around during the match which scares the players. :lol:

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I want Roeder out, but I'm fucking terrified at who that idiot might see fit to replace him with.

 

This is the type of situation it would have been nice to have SBR around for advice.

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This is the issue. Whilst Shepherd remains, we'll just get saddled with someone else not good enough. What's the point?

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There's no point sacking him till there is someone better lined up, last thing needed is yet another ill considered panic sacking followed by yet anonther ill considered panic appointment.

 

That IS the route to the championship.

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There's no point sacking him till there is someone better lined up, last thing needed is yet another ill considered panic sacking followed by yet anonther ill considered panic appointment.

 

That IS the route to the championship.

 

That's what I'm saying...Starting to look for a manager now is infinitely more desirable than 3rd week of July or panic sacking him 8 games in next season. I don't think sacking Glenda could ever be termed ill considered tbh. :o

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For me I would have Roeder out this week, but I am aware of the 'voices of reason' saying end of season and perhaps they have a point. My main worry is that if Roeder isn't sent packing now FS won't start looking for another manager till the summer and probably leave it too late as usual.

 

On a side issue all this waiting for Shearer lark which is the worst kept secret plan 'A'..doesn't really bear up as he hasn't even finished his 'A' badge yet to go for the Uefa Pro 'B' license..So I'm esitmating Shearer is two years away at least.

 

Out now or wait till later?

The problem I have with sacking Roeder now is that unless last season we don't have anyone in the ranks who could do a caretaker job. Pearson is the only one left who you would consider having sort of managing skills. Our coaching staff is as depleted in depth as is the playing staff.

 

But it is a must imho to work behind the scenes to make sure we have a new manager who can take over for next season and is getting already involved in the "planning".

 

Pearson done a good job as caretaker boss at West Brom.

 

As for our next manager, Houllier for me.

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For me I would have Roeder out this week, but I am aware of the 'voices of reason' saying end of season and perhaps they have a point. My main worry is that if Roeder isn't sent packing now FS won't start looking for another manager till the summer and probably leave it too late as usual.

 

On a side issue all this waiting for Shearer lark which is the worst kept secret plan 'A'..doesn't really bear up as he hasn't even finished his 'A' badge yet to go for the Uefa Pro 'B' license..So I'm esitmating Shearer is two years away at least.

 

Out now or wait till later?

The problem I have with sacking Roeder now is that unless last season we don't have anyone in the ranks who could do a caretaker job. Pearson is the only one left who you would consider having sort of managing skills. Our coaching staff is as depleted in depth as is the playing staff.

 

But it is a must imho to work behind the scenes to make sure we have a new manager who can take over for next season and is getting already involved in the "planning".

 

Pearson done a good job as caretaker boss at West Brom.

 

As for our next manager, Houllier for me.

Hooray, boring long ball football with hundreds of dodgy French players coming in... :o

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For me I would have Roeder out this week, but I am aware of the 'voices of reason' saying end of season and perhaps they have a point. My main worry is that if Roeder isn't sent packing now FS won't start looking for another manager till the summer and probably leave it too late as usual.

 

On a side issue all this waiting for Shearer lark which is the worst kept secret plan 'A'..doesn't really bear up as he hasn't even finished his 'A' badge yet to go for the Uefa Pro 'B' license..So I'm esitmating Shearer is two years away at least.

 

Out now or wait till later?

The problem I have with sacking Roeder now is that unless last season we don't have anyone in the ranks who could do a caretaker job. Pearson is the only one left who you would consider having sort of managing skills. Our coaching staff is as depleted in depth as is the playing staff.

 

But it is a must imho to work behind the scenes to make sure we have a new manager who can take over for next season and is getting already involved in the "planning".

 

Pearson done a good job as caretaker boss at West Brom.

 

As for our next manager, Houllier for me.

Hooray, boring long ball football with hundreds of dodgy French players coming in... :o

 

So you've seen Lyon play long ball football?!

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For me I would have Roeder out this week, but I am aware of the 'voices of reason' saying end of season and perhaps they have a point. My main worry is that if Roeder isn't sent packing now FS won't start looking for another manager till the summer and probably leave it too late as usual.

 

On a side issue all this waiting for Shearer lark which is the worst kept secret plan 'A'..doesn't really bear up as he hasn't even finished his 'A' badge yet to go for the Uefa Pro 'B' license..So I'm esitmating Shearer is two years away at least.

 

Out now or wait till later?

The problem I have with sacking Roeder now is that unless last season we don't have anyone in the ranks who could do a caretaker job. Pearson is the only one left who you would consider having sort of managing skills. Our coaching staff is as depleted in depth as is the playing staff.

 

But it is a must imho to work behind the scenes to make sure we have a new manager who can take over for next season and is getting already involved in the "planning".

 

Pearson done a good job as caretaker boss at West Brom.

 

As for our next manager, Houllier for me.

Hooray, boring long ball football with hundreds of dodgy French players coming in... :o

 

So you've seen Lyon play long ball football?!

I haven't seen Lyon at all, but I remember his last couple of seasons at Liverpool.

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For me I would have Roeder out this week, but I am aware of the 'voices of reason' saying end of season and perhaps they have a point. My main worry is that if Roeder isn't sent packing now FS won't start looking for another manager till the summer and probably leave it too late as usual.

 

On a side issue all this waiting for Shearer lark which is the worst kept secret plan 'A'..doesn't really bear up as he hasn't even finished his 'A' badge yet to go for the Uefa Pro 'B' license..So I'm esitmating Shearer is two years away at least.

 

Out now or wait till later?

The problem I have with sacking Roeder now is that unless last season we don't have anyone in the ranks who could do a caretaker job. Pearson is the only one left who you would consider having sort of managing skills. Our coaching staff is as depleted in depth as is the playing staff.

 

But it is a must imho to work behind the scenes to make sure we have a new manager who can take over for next season and is getting already involved in the "planning".

 

Pearson done a good job as caretaker boss at West Brom.

 

As for our next manager, Houllier for me.

Hooray, boring long ball football with hundreds of dodgy French players coming in... :o

 

So you've seen Lyon play long ball football?!

I haven't seen Lyon at all, but I remember his last couple of seasons at Liverpool.

 

I think you can break his time up at Liverpool before and after his heart attack, after he had it he really struggled to get back into the swing of things, after he left Liverpool he took a year out and it seems to have done him the World of good as is being shown now at Lyon, they play some of the best football out of any CL side even though they've had to sell their best player for two summers in a row.

 

His record at Liverpool was pretty good, better than we had here under Bobby Robson.

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The only problem I have with Houllier is that he is getting on a bit now. 60?

 

It depends on how long you think he'll be here, if he was to stay first team manager until he was 65 before moving upstairs he'd still have plenty of time to sort this club out, in his 5 years at Liverpool he finished 4th, 3rd, 2nd, 5th and 4th as well as picking up 5 trophies on the way.

 

We wouldn't be moving him upstairs for the sake of it either as he knows football inside out, he was the technical director with the French football association when they went on to win the World cup and was credited with a lot of their success, he was also the first manager (I think) to introduce a skills coach into his coaching set up to work on players technique.

 

That's without even mentioning the sort of players he turned Owen and Gerrard into.

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The only problem I have with Houllier is that he is getting on a bit now. 60?

 

It depends on how long you think he'll be here, if he was to stay first team manager until he was 65 before moving upstairs he'd still have plenty of time to sort this club out, in his 5 years at Liverpool he finished 4th, 3rd, 2nd, 5th and 4th as well as picking up 5 trophies on the way.

 

We wouldn't be moving him upstairs for the sake of it either as he knows football inside out, he was the technical director with the French football association when they went on to win the World cup and was credited with a lot of their success, he was also the first manager (I think) to introduce a skills coach into his coaching set up to work on players technique.

 

That's without even mentioning the sort of players he turned Owen and Gerrard into.

 

I'm sold. :o

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