Shearergol 0 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Parker > Butt > Emre None of them good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Parker > Butt > Emre None of them good enough. That list is the wrong way around tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Parker > Butt > Emre None of them good enough. That list is the wrong way around tbh. You forget Gol has difficulty accurately assessing the abilities of midfielders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Parker > Butt > Emre None of them good enough. That list is the wrong way around tbh. Not at all. I think Emre is a useless pile of shite, and was an extremely poor buy. Apart from a freekick against Sunderland, he's done fuck all. There's no point in even having freekicks and corners when he's in the team, as they all result in the other team getting the ball. Parker is a much better player than Emre, although most midfielders in the premiership are better than Emre, so it's not saying much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Parker > Butt > Emre None of them good enough. That list is the wrong way around tbh. Not at all. I think Emre is a useless pile of shite, and was an extremely poor buy. Apart from a freekick against Sunderland, he's done fuck all. There's no point in even having freekicks and corners when he's in the team, as they all result in the other team getting the ball. Parker is a much better player than Emre, although most midfielders in the premiership are better than Emre, so it's not saying much. What makes Parker better than Emre? Parker is very average, offers nothing going forward apart from the odd goal and spends more time breaking our attack down than helping it, defensively he's a headless chicken who dives into tackles like a fucking madman, don't get me started on his 360 spins... Emre on the other hand is the only midfielder we have along with Dyer who can make things happen, he can both of them are happy to pick the ball up and run at the opposition, I don't think anyone would argue that we've played our best football when Parker is out of the team and Butt and Emre have been in the middle, with that in mind I can't see how anyone can say Parker is our best midfielder. Emre's freekicks and corners are shit I agree, however we don't have anyone else more capable of taking them so until that's sorted then we don't have much choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Parker > Butt > Emre None of them good enough. That list is the wrong way around tbh. Not at all. I think Emre is a useless pile of shite, and was an extremely poor buy. Apart from a freekick against Sunderland, he's done fuck all. There's no point in even having freekicks and corners when he's in the team, as they all result in the other team getting the ball. Parker is a much better player than Emre, although most midfielders in the premiership are better than Emre, so it's not saying much. http://youtube.com/watch?v=3iCv-NQzxlA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Parker > Butt > Emre None of them good enough. That list is the wrong way around tbh. Not at all. I think Emre is a useless pile of shite, and was an extremely poor buy. Apart from a freekick against Sunderland, he's done fuck all. There's no point in even having freekicks and corners when he's in the team, as they all result in the other team getting the ball. Parker is a much better player than Emre, although most midfielders in the premiership are better than Emre, so it's not saying much. http://youtube.com/watch?v=3iCv-NQzxlA http://youtube.com/watch?v=JqLyaNbwTyg Easy isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Parker > Butt > Emre None of them good enough. That list is the wrong way around tbh. Not at all. I think Emre is a useless pile of shite, and was an extremely poor buy. Apart from a freekick against Sunderland, he's done fuck all. There's no point in even having freekicks and corners when he's in the team, as they all result in the other team getting the ball. Parker is a much better player than Emre, although most midfielders in the premiership are better than Emre, so it's not saying much. http://youtube.com/watch?v=3iCv-NQzxlA http://youtube.com/watch?v=JqLyaNbwTyg Easy isn't it. I think he may be hinting that Butt and Emre were class in that match rather than just the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Parker > Butt > Emre None of them good enough. That list is the wrong way around tbh. Not at all. I think Emre is a useless pile of shite, and was an extremely poor buy. Apart from a freekick against Sunderland, he's done fuck all. There's no point in even having freekicks and corners when he's in the team, as they all result in the other team getting the ball. Parker is a much better player than Emre, although most midfielders in the premiership are better than Emre, so it's not saying much. http://youtube.com/watch?v=3iCv-NQzxlA http://youtube.com/watch?v=JqLyaNbwTyg Easy isn't it. I think he may be hinting that Butt and Emre were class in that match rather than just the goal. Parker was man of the match in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Parker > Butt > Emre None of them good enough. That list is the wrong way around tbh. Not at all. I think Emre is a useless pile of shite, and was an extremely poor buy. Apart from a freekick against Sunderland, he's done fuck all. There's no point in even having freekicks and corners when he's in the team, as they all result in the other team getting the ball. Parker is a much better player than Emre, although most midfielders in the premiership are better than Emre, so it's not saying much. http://youtube.com/watch?v=3iCv-NQzxlA http://youtube.com/watch?v=JqLyaNbwTyg Easy isn't it. I think he may be hinting that Butt and Emre were class in that match rather than just the goal. Parker was man of the match in that game. The Reading one? A game he didn't even play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Parker > Butt > Emre None of them good enough. That list is the wrong way around tbh. Not at all. I think Emre is a useless pile of shite, and was an extremely poor buy. Apart from a freekick against Sunderland, he's done fuck all. There's no point in even having freekicks and corners when he's in the team, as they all result in the other team getting the ball. Parker is a much better player than Emre, although most midfielders in the premiership are better than Emre, so it's not saying much. http://youtube.com/watch?v=3iCv-NQzxlA http://youtube.com/watch?v=JqLyaNbwTyg Easy isn't it. I think he may be hinting that Butt and Emre were class in that match rather than just the goal. Parker was man of the match in that game. The Reading one? A game he didn't even play? No, in the link I posted. Keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.../\......\o/... 0 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Parker > Butt > Emre None of them good enough. That list is the wrong way around tbh. Not at all. I think Emre is a useless pile of shite, and was an extremely poor buy. Apart from a freekick against Sunderland, he's done fuck all. There's no point in even having freekicks and corners when he's in the team, as they all result in the other team getting the ball. Parker is a much better player than Emre, although most midfielders in the premiership are better than Emre, so it's not saying much. http://youtube.com/watch?v=3iCv-NQzxlA http://youtube.com/watch?v=JqLyaNbwTyg Easy isn't it. I think he may be hinting that Butt and Emre were class in that match rather than just the goal. Parker was man of the match in that game. The Reading one? A game he didn't even play? No, in the link I posted. Keep up. And didn't we lose that game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinofbeans 91 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 plus points good engine tackles well. negatives distribution poor technique average short range passing ok long range passing average positional sense average not vocal movement average. with this in mind i'd sell him, or use him as cover for nicky butt. butts got better basic technique and short range passing skills. he also keeps the ball better and playmakes better from deep (though by defenition he is not a playmaker). HERE MATE THIS POST IS SHITE, JUST LIKE PARKER A PLAYER WOTH ZILCH FOR TECHNIQUE Nice touch. what does "WOTH" mean? Good use of caps, bellend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 I've changed my mind about Parker. I was chuffed when we signed him (pinched him off Everton if I recall, and I was on holiday with a toffee at the time which made it even better). I also thought making him captain was a good idea as he seemed committed and the type who could drag his team to results (think back to his Charlton days when he seemed to win games on his own for them). I also like a centre half or a centre mid for my captain. But there is no arguing that results and performances have been worse when he has been in the team than when he hasn't. No coincidence that our run up the league to an Intertoto place came when he was out with glandular fever. Now, he just doesn't seem to have a role. He's neither a good, disciplined defensive midfielder or a creative playmaking midfielder. He want to be a box-to-box man and thats not what we need (Jenas probably wanted the same). I'd like to see us use Butt in the defensive role (or buy another 'destroyer' who can properly play that specialised role) and pair him up with a creative player with a bit of flair, who can spread play, keep the ball and play killer passes. I think it important that the players have defined roles and the skills to carry those roles out. At the moment I can't see Parker doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I don't think Billy Elliotts half as bad as some make out, but all those pirouettes in the middle of the park are starting to do my head in.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I've changed my mind about Parker. I was chuffed when we signed him (pinched him off Everton if I recall, and I was on holiday with a toffee at the time which made it even better). I also thought making him captain was a good idea as he seemed committed and the type who could drag his team to results (think back to his Charlton days when he seemed to win games on his own for them). I also like a centre half or a centre mid for my captain. But there is no arguing that results and performances have been worse when he has been in the team than when he hasn't. No coincidence that our run up the league to an Intertoto place came when he was out with glandular fever. Now, he just doesn't seem to have a role. He's neither a good, disciplined defensive midfielder or a creative playmaking midfielder. He want to be a box-to-box man and thats not what we need (Jenas probably wanted the same). I'd like to see us use Butt in the defensive role (or buy another 'destroyer' who can properly play that specialised role) and pair him up with a creative player with a bit of flair, who can spread play, keep the ball and play killer passes. I think it important that the players have defined roles and the skills to carry those roles out. At the moment I can't see Parker doing that. Mind, I'd argue Roeder hasn't got a clue how to get the best out of any of his players - see Duff, Dyer's recent dip in form after being shifted to right-mid, Milner being dropped after being one of our best players etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10035 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I've changed my mind about Parker. I was chuffed when we signed him (pinched him off Everton if I recall, and I was on holiday with a toffee at the time which made it even better). I also thought making him captain was a good idea as he seemed committed and the type who could drag his team to results (think back to his Charlton days when he seemed to win games on his own for them). I also like a centre half or a centre mid for my captain. But there is no arguing that results and performances have been worse when he has been in the team than when he hasn't. No coincidence that our run up the league to an Intertoto place came when he was out with glandular fever. Now, he just doesn't seem to have a role. He's neither a good, disciplined defensive midfielder or a creative playmaking midfielder. He want to be a box-to-box man and thats not what we need (Jenas probably wanted the same). I'd like to see us use Butt in the defensive role (or buy another 'destroyer' who can properly play that specialised role) and pair him up with a creative player with a bit of flair, who can spread play, keep the ball and play killer passes. I think it important that the players have defined roles and the skills to carry those roles out. At the moment I can't see Parker doing that. Mind, I'd argue Roeder hasn't got a clue how to get the best out of any of his players - see Duff, Dyer's recent dip in form after being shifted to right-mid, Milner being dropped after being one of our best players etc. My major concern about Roeder's work. He can come up with his excuses about the injury situation (which of course thankfully he never does ), but he isn't able to put any shape into the team by getting the best out of players in their positions. For most of the season he had players in midfield who were comfortable with their positions, but where he isn't able to get them working together, especially the central midfield pairing of Emre and Parker. This is something that has nothing to do with missing Owen or some players at the back imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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