Matty 0 Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 (edited) Roeder blames defence for defeat Roeder was not happy with the way his side performed Newcastle manager Glenn Roeder launched into an attack on his defenders after the club's Uefa Cup exit on away goals to Dutch side AZ Alkmaar. The Magpies held a 4-2 first leg lead but saw that overturned all too easily as AZ Alkmaar won 2-0 in the return. "They are not good goals we conceded," he said. "Too often crosses come into our box, they are not defended properly and bad decisions are made. "I have to find defenders who are good enough to play in front of Shay Given." AZ Alkmaar took the lead when a low cross was not cut out by Steven Taylor and was converted by Shota Arveladze. Their second came when Danny Koevermans lost his marker Titus Bramble and nodded home. Roeder added: "Shay Given is a is a top drawer keeper but he does not get the protection he should get. He is exposed far too easily. We did not have enough players who came out and performed, which was a surprise and unexpected "Too many defenders make too many mistakes that cost us points. "They do well, you are happy with them and you think they have learnt. Then 'bang' they go and make the same mistake again and let you down." Edited March 15, 2007 by Matty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Roeder blames defence for defeat Roeder was not happy with the way his side performed Newcastle manager Glenn Roeder launched into an attack on his defenders after the club's Uefa Cup exit on away goals to Dutch side AZ Alkmaar. The Magpies held a 4-2 first leg lead but saw that overturned all too easily as AZ Alkmaar won 2-0 in the return. "They are not good goals we conceded," he said. "Too often crosses come into our box, they are not defended properly and bad decisions are made. "I have to find defenders who are good enough to play in front of Shay Given." AZ Alkmaar took the lead when a low cross was not cut out by Steven Taylor and was converted by Shota Arveladze. Their second came when Danny Koevermans lost his marker Titus Bramble and nodded home. Roeder added: "Shay Given is a is a top drawer keeper but he does not get the protection he should get. He is exposed far too easily. We did not have enough players who came out and performed, which was a surprise and unexpected "Too many defenders make too many mistakes that cost us points. "They do well, you are happy with them and you think they have learnt. Then 'bang' they go and make the same mistake again and let you down." Roeder also believes too many of his players failed to turn up as they tamely surrendered to the dominant Dutch opponents. "We did not have enough players who came out and performed, which was a surprise and unexpected," he said. Why didn't you sign some defenders in the window you spastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31556 Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Good to hear him saying this, though 9 months too late you useless twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie 0 Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Welcome to August, Glenn, you thick c...retin (Cath's favourite word should be allowed in this context for the foreseeable tbh.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7308 Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Who do we reckon hes talking about? Sounds like Bramble but i thought taylor was at fault for the first goal.] Also, if we could hit a barn door upfront we wouldnt be worrying about the 2 gaols we let in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg 6 Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 (edited) Strong words from him. But I don't trust him one bit to go out and build us a solid top 4 capable of doing well. If he opened his fucking eyes we could have quite easily had a back line along the lines of the following for the start of this season; Bridge? Campbell Woodgate Chimbonda Edited March 15, 2007 by Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31556 Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Roeder blames defence for defeat "We did not have enough players who came out and performed, which was a surprise and unexpected," he said. So why didn't you change those players then? You had Milner and N'Zogbia on the bench, too potential matchwinners yet hardly gave them a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie 0 Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Strong words from him. But I don't trust him one bit to go out and build us a solid top 4 capable of doing well. If he opened his fucking eyes we could have quite easily had a back line along the lines of the following for the start of this season; Bridge? Campbell Woodgate Chimbonda Don't be so stupid, none of them play enough games. All hail Bernard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I blame Huntington and Taylor for the first and Parker for the second (His marker can't have been Bramble surely, he was miles away before the corner was taken). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I blame Huntington and Taylor for the first and Parker for the second (His marker can't have been Bramble surely, he was miles away before the corner was taken). He was ''surprised'' they way they came out.....Didn't they fucking talk about the first 20min and how important it is to TO STICK TO THIER ROLES....Oh wait...What roles!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 It's all very well for Roeder to cast blame on defensive frailties, and the goals scored were certainly due to poor defending, but in retrospect it was Roeder himself who chose the defensive line-up and the blame should initially rest on his managerial qualities. And as a former defender himself I don't understand why he can't stiffen it up at the back. With the absense of Babayaro and Carr he should have chosen the last person to defend well at right-back and that was Taylor. His choice of Huntington was clearly a wrong choice, Huntington has proved time and time again that he is not suited to that position and I question why he prefers him over Edgar. Roeder should have given Taylor the responsibility of holding the left side and in the absense of quality defenders put Huntington or Edgar in the middle with Bramble as they are supposedly central defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47003 Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Glenn Roeder insists it has not been another season of failure for Newcastle United, despite their exit from the Uefa Cup. AZ Alkmaar recorded a 2-0 home win in the second leg of their last 16 tie to go through on away goals after a 4-4 aggregate scoreline. The defeat will mean another campaign without a trophy for The Magpies, but Roeder refused to look on the gloomy side. "It is too easy to say it is another season of failure for Newcastle," said Roeder. "That is just too easy. You know the problems we have had. The squad has been decimated for six months by injuries. "We have got a few back now, but we have had to pick up points during the season with a team that was minus a dozen senior players. "There are nine games left now and we need to pick up as many points as we can to make sure we finish as high up the Premiership as we can." With regards to the defeat in Holland, Roeder felt too many players failed to produce their best form when required. "Conceding two goals," he added when asked where Newcastle had lost the tie. "We needed to score one and we did not. It is as straightforward as that. "From our point of view, the two goals were poorly defended. Considering how well we played last week, we played very poorly tonight. "We had too many players off form, experienced players who I would have expected to do better." What a twat he is. That's him not using injuries as an excuse again btw, in case you didn't notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7308 Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Not only using it as an excuse, but picking a time in the season when we have the majority of our players fit to use it as an excuse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 10381 Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I blame Huntington and Taylor for the first and Parker for the second (His marker can't have been Bramble surely, he was miles away before the corner was taken). Solely on Taylor IMO When the balls played wide Huntingdon checks his run to play the winger offside, which he would have been except that Taylor was 2 yards behind the line the rest of the defence was holding, Taylor compounded his error by not cutting out the cross As for the "no defenders - why didn'y you realise that in August" comments, he probably did but we were skint (and probably still are) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 As for the "no defenders - why didn'y you realise that in August" comments, he probably did but we were skint (and probably still are) Why then did we spend £5million on a left winger when this position was not a priority? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1280 Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 I blame Huntington and Taylor for the first and Parker for the second (His marker can't have been Bramble surely, he was miles away before the corner was taken). Solely on Taylor IMO When the balls played wide Huntingdon checks his run to play the winger offside, which he would have been except that Taylor was 2 yards behind the line the rest of the defence was holding, Taylor compounded his error by not cutting out the cross As for the "no defenders - why didn'y you realise that in August" comments, he probably did but we were skint (and probably still are) The whole of the back four and Given were at fault for the first goal tbh. Bramble started it off by ridiculously trying to step up and play offside, Huntington made a piss poor effort to cut out the cross, fuck knows what Taylor was doing, Given Should have come for the ball & Solano just watched Arvaladse get ahead of him and put the ball in. It was a true achievement to concede a goal that a whole defence was to blame for. The second goal was pure Bramble, he's fucking useless and was a thorn in our side all night. Anyone offering him a new contract wan't shooting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser 1321 Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 This is the first time that he's publicly criticised the defence and its at least some kind of indication that he's going to change things in the future. It sounds as if he's talking about Bramble as we all know he can put in awesome tackles one game and then just lose it when the pressures on moments later. Lets hope things get sorted in the next window and we arent again talking about "Planning" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22380 Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Glenn Roeder insists it has not been another season of failure for Newcastle United, despite their exit from the Uefa Cup. AZ Alkmaar recorded a 2-0 home win in the second leg of their last 16 tie to go through on away goals after a 4-4 aggregate scoreline. The defeat will mean another campaign without a trophy for The Magpies, but Roeder refused to look on the gloomy side. "It is too easy to say it is another season of failure for Newcastle," said Roeder. "That is just too easy. You know the problems we have had. The squad has been decimated for six months by injuries. "We have got a few back now, but we have had to pick up points during the season with a team that was minus a dozen senior players. "There are nine games left now and we need to pick up as many points as we can to make sure we finish as high up the Premiership as we can." With regards to the defeat in Holland, Roeder felt too many players failed to produce their best form when required. "Conceding two goals," he added when asked where Newcastle had lost the tie. "We needed to score one and we did not. It is as straightforward as that. "From our point of view, the two goals were poorly defended. Considering how well we played last week, we played very poorly tonight. "We had too many players off form, experienced players who I would have expected to do better." What a twat he is. That's him not using injuries as an excuse again btw, in case you didn't notice. Aye. And basically he's saying what we've all suspected for some time - not getting relegated is success. Honestly, the thought of next season is truly depressing already, it's death by apathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 So, he knew our defence was poor yet still went for a 0-0. Fuck me sideways with a womans weekly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 So, he knew our defence was poor yet still went for a 0-0. Fuck me sideways with a womans weekly. Aye he is fucking clueless. Some supporters try to cling on to the fact he had a half decent run at the end of last season but all he really done was play the players we had in their correct positions unlike Souness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1280 Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 In this tie we were a able to see a complete contrast in managers. One who is supremely self confident and instills the same in his players who go out believing in what they are doing and certain that they will outscore the oposition. And another who is fucking clueless which also feeds down his players who look the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Nothing more certain than another meek surrender on Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Nothing more certain than another meek surrender on Sunday Us on the back of that defeat, them fighting for their lives with a (albeit slim) chance of survival. All too inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Nothing more certain than another meek surrender on Sunday Narr, we'll scratch a win and paper over the cracks once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Nothing more certain than another meek surrender on Sunday Narr, we'll scratch a win and paper over the cracks once again. Scary though isnt it. We do that and they think all is ok again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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