Scottish Mag 3 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Scotland have risen four places to 16th in the latest Fifa world rankings. Former Scotland boss Walter Smith transformed the side's fortunes, seeing them rise from 88th two years ago and 62nd a year ago. England remain sixth, with Northern Ireland in 47th place and the Republic of Ireland 51st. Wales are 77th. Argentina took over at the top of the rankings from world champions Italy, who fell to second, with Brazil third, France fourth and Germany fifth. Scotland rose in the rankings despite not playing since October. Points gained over the course of a year are included in full. However, results from any preceding 12 months count only for 50%, with that figure decreasing to 30% for a third year and then 20% for a fourth year. Scotland boss Alex McLeish has announced his 26-man squad for group leaders Scotland's next Euro 2008 qualifiers against Georgia and world champions Italy. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fifa world rankings: 1 Argentina 2 Italy 3 Brazil 4 France 5 Germany 6 England 7 Holland 8 Portugal 9 Czech Republic 10 Spain Selected others: 16 Scotland 47 Northern Ireland 51 Republic Ireland 77 Wales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Give it about 6 months with Eck in charge and we'll be back amongst the dead men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10035 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 (edited) Scotland have risen four places to 16th in the latest Fifa world rankings. Former Scotland boss Walter Smith transformed the side's fortunes, seeing them rise from 88th two years ago and 62nd a year ago. England remain sixth, with Northern Ireland in 47th place and the Republic of Ireland 51st. Wales are 77th. Argentina took over at the top of the rankings from world champions Italy, who fell to second, with Brazil third, France fourth and Germany fifth. Scotland rose in the rankings despite not playing since October. Points gained over the course of a year are included in full. However, results from any preceding 12 months count only for 50%, with that figure decreasing to 30% for a third year and then 20% for a fourth year. Scotland boss Alex McLeish has announced his 26-man squad for group leaders Scotland's next Euro 2008 qualifiers against Georgia and world champions Italy. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fifa world rankings: 1 Argentina 2 Italy 3 Brazil 4 France 5 Germany 6 England 7 Holland 8 Portugal 9 Czech Republic 10 Spain Selected others: 16 Scotland 47 Northern Ireland 51 Republic Ireland 77 Wales And England are 6th. Says all about the credibility tbh. Edited March 14, 2007 by Isegrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevieintoon Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Big Feck will have yous down in 40th before you know it. It's astonishing really that a country who's main striker is Kenny Miller can be as high as 16th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 (edited) England higher than Portugal Haha, Northern Ireland higher than The Republic Well done Stan Edited March 14, 2007 by Sima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 How are we 6th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathras 296 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 How are we 6th? How are Argentina #1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 How are we 6th? How are Argentina #1? Aye, bizarre. Still, I bet Italy aren't arsed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathras 296 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 I really do wish they'd get these figured out. The US has played two games in the last month--against the teams ranked 21 and 22. We won both, and the net result is.... we go down to places? England have played one, and lost, to the team ranked 10th, but remain 6th while Spain don't move either. Yeah, they're friendlies, but you'd think they'd count for something? Still, I like the ELO ratings. Even if they still rank England at #7. http://www.eloratings.net/world.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 How are we 6th? How are Argentina #1? Aye, bizarre. Still, I bet Italy aren't arsed. Means fuck all really, only thing matters is that Italy are world cup champions, Greece are european champions etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walliver 0 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Where are USA and Mexico? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Where are USA and Mexico? North America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walliver 0 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Where are USA and Mexico? North America. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Where are USA and Mexico? North America. Thanks. Ooh, get her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walliver 0 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Where are USA and Mexico? North America. Thanks. Ooh, get her. I was being polite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Where are USA and Mexico? North America. Thanks. Ooh, get her. I was being polite! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walliver 0 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Where are USA and Mexico? North America. Thanks. Ooh, get her. I was being polite! Thanks. No problem. I don't suppose you know where these North American based teams are in the rankings, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Where are USA and Mexico? North America. Thanks. Ooh, get her. I was being polite! Thanks. No problem. I don't suppose you know where these North American based teams are in the rankings, do you? No, but if you're that bothered you could look on fifa.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walliver 0 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Where are USA and Mexico? North America. Thanks. Ooh, get her. I was being polite! Thanks. No problem. I don't suppose you know where these North American based teams are in the rankings, do you? No, but if you're that bothered you could look on fifa.com Good idea. Mexico are 21st and USA are 30th. When did they drop so low? The last time I remember looking they were both comfortably in the top ten. I don't think fifa.com has an archive section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10035 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 I really do wish they'd get these figured out. The US has played two games in the last month--against the teams ranked 21 and 22. We won both, and the net result is.... we go down to places? England have played one, and lost, to the team ranked 10th, but remain 6th while Spain don't move either. Yeah, they're friendlies, but you'd think they'd count for something? Still, I like the ELO ratings. Even if they still rank England at #7. http://www.eloratings.net/world.html Don't worry, I guess the US will play some GREAT tournament or qualification games agaist some Caribbean islands soon and shoot up in the rankings as they always do... U-S-A U-S-A... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathras 296 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Where are USA and Mexico? North America. Thanks. Ooh, get her. I was being polite! Thanks. No problem. I don't suppose you know where these North American based teams are in the rankings, do you? No, but if you're that bothered you could look on fifa.com Good idea. Mexico are 21st and USA are 30th. When did they drop so low? The last time I remember looking they were both comfortably in the top ten. I don't think fifa.com has an archive section. When they both were shit at the World Cup? I still don't understand why Mexico is ranked so much higher than the US though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathras 296 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 I really do wish they'd get these figured out. The US has played two games in the last month--against the teams ranked 21 and 22. We won both, and the net result is.... we go down to places? England have played one, and lost, to the team ranked 10th, but remain 6th while Spain don't move either. Yeah, they're friendlies, but you'd think they'd count for something? Still, I like the ELO ratings. Even if they still rank England at #7. http://www.eloratings.net/world.html Don't worry, I guess the US will play some GREAT tournament or qualification games agaist some Caribbean islands soon and shoot up in the rankings as they always do... U-S-A U-S-A... Yes, because that's what I was saying in my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10035 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 I really do wish they'd get these figured out. The US has played two games in the last month--against the teams ranked 21 and 22. We won both, and the net result is.... we go down to places? England have played one, and lost, to the team ranked 10th, but remain 6th while Spain don't move either. Yeah, they're friendlies, but you'd think they'd count for something? Still, I like the ELO ratings. Even if they still rank England at #7. http://www.eloratings.net/world.html Don't worry, I guess the US will play some GREAT tournament or qualification games agaist some Caribbean islands soon and shoot up in the rankings as they always do... U-S-A U-S-A... Yes, because that's what I was saying in my post. You only wonder why the USA dropped down while other teams stayed in their place... And this is just down to the way of the calculation. I guess in the cases of Spain and England their results were unaffected while in the case of the USA some positive results from the past weren't included in the period of calculation any more. http://fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/rank/pr...,2540,3,00.html And yes, friendly matches do count, although with not much importance, but as I said, you'll probably soon shoot up due to participating in a major tournament like the Concacaf-Cup and getting loads of points for it. The whole ranking is pure nonsense - but especially if people try to take in serious in any way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathras 296 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 (edited) I used it as an example because I knew USA and England results. I am sure I could have found similar results from any number of other teams, but England and the US are the teams with which I am most familiar. I note that CONCACAF Matches are rated at 85% of the value of any UEFA Game, and that the ranking of the opponent enters into it. So while the Gold Cup will inflate rankings a bit, it bears mentioning that a Gold Cup Final Match between the USA and Mexico would garner a lot fewer points than a UEFA Championship qualifier between Ireland and Wales. Edited March 14, 2007 by Zathras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10035 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 I used it as an example because I knew USA and England results. I am sure I could have found similar results from any number of other teams, but England and the US are the teams with which I am most familiar. Sorry, but I still don't understand what point you are trying to make. The ranking is calculated on a pure mathematical base of points accredited to matches over a certain period. So the fact that America are dropping down despite winning a game can for example be down for certain games from four years ago not being considered any more or something similar. And the fact that Mexico are ranked higer is just because they collected more points in that period. Nothing else (well, of course you could consider cheating...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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