PaddockLad 17646 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Will it be implemented in all FA cup ties? Each FA will decide what competitions it will be intoduced in. It wouldve had a major bearing on the FA cup final this year. But one game in one competition where the technology is impossible to be used across every game is hardly a decent argument in its favour. Its all to do with how many people see it. A close goal line decision at Port Vale in a 3rd round replay should be in sporting terms as important as one at Wembley in the final. But because theres potentially millions riding on Chelsea v Liverpool its different. So that makes it one rule for the rich and one for the poor. Which is life. Doesn't make it fair though. The rules should b the same for every club in the competition surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Each FA will decide what competitions it will be intoduced in. It wouldve had a major bearing on the FA cup final this year. But one game in one competition where the technology is impossible to be used across every game is hardly a decent argument in its favour. Its all to do with how many people see it. A close goal line decision at Port Vale in a 3rd round replay should be in sporting terms as important as one at Wembley in the final. But because theres potentially millions riding on Chelsea v Liverpool its different. So that makes it one rule for the rich and one for the poor. Which is life. Doesn't make it fair though. The rules should b the same for every club in the competition surely? Yeah, that's the point I was making in a pithy one line question. Big clubs only getting more accurate decisions in the same competition wouldn't be on. I wouldn't be averse to it if it was inexpensive enough to be implemented in EVERY game in a competition. Can't see Whitley Bay having 12 cameras around their goals, 4 of them 80 ft up in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4857 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Which is why the chip system makes more sense. Its just more equipment at the end of the day, the top clubs spend more on coaches, medical technology etc too Should they be stopped from doing that to even the playing field across the divisions? For the fa cup I'd imagine with it being a chip and a field of some sort that the equipment could be made portable and introduced at a point in the competition across all matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46027 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 The cost of the match ball is borne by the FA surely? So no reason smaller clubs can't have that, and I can't imagine the technology to create a magnetic field at the goal mouth is that expensive. I don't even really get the argument that you couldn't play 2 FA Cup ties, one with and one without, cos the matches are self contained. Both teams in each game are subject to the same conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4857 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I don't see how the arguments that "its only happened once in 20 years of PL matches" and "its going to undermine the referee" actually stand together if its that rare an occurrence surely it will make absolutely no difference to the referee as it will never be needed and there is no problem with effecting the game, the only thing to get annoyed about is then that its a waste of money but the development costs are being handled by the companies developing the system and football wastes shit tons of money anyway so whats the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17646 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I don't see how the arguments that "its only happened once in 20 years of PL matches" and "its going to undermine the referee" actually stand together if its that rare an occurrence surely it will make absolutely no difference to the referee as it will never be needed and there is no problem with effecting the game, the only thing to get annoyed about is then that its a waste of money but the development costs are being handled by the companies developing the system and football wastes shit tons of money anyway so whats the difference? Where does it stop though? whod have thought the players in cricket and tennis couldve questioned the umpires call 20 years ago? Think about John Terry being able to appeal a penalty decison. That scenario is a fuckin nightmare, am sure you'll agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4857 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 yeh but no one is talking about that. and a microchip in the ball isn't going to do that the difference between tennis or cricket is that the rules aren't really open to interpretation like they are in football balls either out or its in, batsman's either out or he's not (by whatever method) football doesn't work like that, its not that clear cut since you're talking about a person and another person rather than a ball and a line, it will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46027 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 give it up ffs. Even you don't believe what you're saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4857 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 give it up ffs. Even you don't believe what you're saying. quoting is essential for context Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 They are also set to rule on whether special headscarves can be worn during matches after pressure from some Muslim countries. Terrorist footballers with bombs under their headscarves introduce goal line technology and kill our game. I write my own Daily Mail headlines rather than visiting their website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 yeh but no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17646 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 (edited) give it up ffs. Even you don't believe what you're saying. No, not entirely. No one knows what will happen tbh. But this could open the floodgates. I do think thats a danger for various reasons as I've said. Its going through today so we'll see. Edited July 5, 2012 by PaddockLad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4857 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 or that yeh, that works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 The cost of the match ball is borne by the FA surely? So no reason smaller clubs can't have that, and I can't imagine the technology to create a magnetic field at the goal mouth is that expensive. I don't even really get the argument that you couldn't play 2 FA Cup ties, one with and one without, cos the matches are self contained. Both teams in each game are subject to the same conditions. East Thurrock United 0 - 0 Man U A ball appeared to cross the line for Thurrock, and was proven to have on replay, but the ref waved away appeals. Replay Man U 1 -0 East Thurock United As the ref ran from the area he was alerted to the ball crossing the line and awarded a goal. I think that would be a proper disgrace and make a mockery of the even playing field the FA cup is supposed to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46027 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I'm hypothetically livid about this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I'm so hypothetically angry I could make a graph! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 You're really livid that my hypothetical example shows how 2 separate games aren't necessarily self contained at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7084 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 (edited) HF is right, you can't have different rules in different games over 2 legs. Likely it would be excluded from the FA Cup and only enforced/enforceable in league games. Edited July 5, 2012 by trophyshy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46027 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 (edited) Turn it off in that instance. I can feel my hypothetical rage abating already. Edited July 5, 2012 by Gemmill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 3 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 If satellites existed it wouldn't be to hard set a field's dimensions using GPS based technology and a sender unit inside the match ball. If only satellites existed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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