Footie Stars Give Up Pay For Nurses

[catmag 337]

Unions? Unions?!! SHAME on you Parky!

 

They're the last bastion of Communism - it's a disgrace they're even allowed to exist.

 

 

Just seeing if these little darlings have are organised at all or have any kind of formal protection etc...

 

Yeah, I'm in a union but they don't encourage industrial action. It did say on the news tonight that they were considering it today though after the pay announcement.

 

Which union is it?

 

RCN.

[catmag 337]

I would just like to add that unions are lazy, useless, impotent beasts that have minimal positive effect for their members...not that I'm bitter or anything.

 

 

.....but in the case of the nurses they have a lot more power than they realise...Public sympathy bank for a start..

 

Doubt there's be much public sympathy if we were to strike and hospitals would be virtually shut as a result. People have sympathy for nurses but we'd be called worse than shit if we weren't doing our jobs and people were turned away from A&E, operations got cancelled etc.

[Park Life 71]

Unions? Unions?!! SHAME on you Parky!

 

They're the last bastion of Communism - it's a disgrace they're even allowed to exist.

 

 

Just seeing if these little darlings have are organised at all or have any kind of formal protection etc...

 

Yeah, I'm in a union but they don't encourage industrial action. It did say on the news tonight that they were considering it today though after the pay announcement.

 

Which union is it?

 

RCN.

 

 

I suspected so....They have always been moderate tory leaning lapdogs...Who are the other you can have?

[Park Life 71]

I would just like to add that unions are lazy, useless, impotent beasts that have minimal positive effect for their members...not that I'm bitter or anything.

 

 

.....but in the case of the nurses they have a lot more power than they realise...Public sympathy bank for a start..

 

Doubt there's be much public sympathy if we were to strike and hospitals would be virtually shut as a result. People have sympathy for nurses but we'd be called worse than shit if we weren't doing our jobs and people were turned away from A&E, operations got cancelled etc.

 

They would call the army in....to cover and the scum money grabbing fat arse management that you see swanning around on £50k would have to roll their sleeves up....Of course the the agencies would be overjoyed..I bet the agencies charge as bomb as well...

[catmag 337]

Unions? Unions?!! SHAME on you Parky!

 

They're the last bastion of Communism - it's a disgrace they're even allowed to exist.

 

 

Just seeing if these little darlings have are organised at all or have any kind of formal protection etc...

 

Yeah, I'm in a union but they don't encourage industrial action. It did say on the news tonight that they were considering it today though after the pay announcement.

 

Which union is it?

 

RCN.

 

 

I suspected so....They have always been moderate tory leaning lapdogs...Who are the other you can have?

 

UNISON basically. I'm also a member of the AfPP/NATN which are specifically for theatre nurses.

[catmag 337]

I would just like to add that unions are lazy, useless, impotent beasts that have minimal positive effect for their members...not that I'm bitter or anything.

 

 

.....but in the case of the nurses they have a lot more power than they realise...Public sympathy bank for a start..

 

Doubt there's be much public sympathy if we were to strike and hospitals would be virtually shut as a result. People have sympathy for nurses but we'd be called worse than shit if we weren't doing our jobs and people were turned away from A&E, operations got cancelled etc.

 

They would call the army in....to cover and the scum money grabbing fat arse management that you see swanning around on £50k would have to roll their sleeves up....Of course the the agencies would be overjoyed..I bet the agencies charge as bomb as well...

 

About £30 an hour for someone that would be doing my job..

[Park Life 71]

I would just like to add that unions are lazy, useless, impotent beasts that have minimal positive effect for their members...not that I'm bitter or anything.

 

 

.....but in the case of the nurses they have a lot more power than they realise...Public sympathy bank for a start..

 

Doubt there's be much public sympathy if we were to strike and hospitals would be virtually shut as a result. People have sympathy for nurses but we'd be called worse than shit if we weren't doing our jobs and people were turned away from A&E, operations got cancelled etc.

 

They would call the army in....to cover and the scum money grabbing fat arse management that you see swanning around on £50k would have to roll their sleeves up....Of course the the agencies would be overjoyed..I bet the agencies charge as bomb as well...

 

About £30 an hour for someone that would be doing my job..

 

The problem with the nurses is that (without some forgivable generalising) they are very hard to 'rabble rouse' being the type of people they are. The first step I guess would be to get you all out of the RCN and into Unison. But at some point nurses are going to have to take diruptive action of sorts...But you will have to be inventive and NOT go directly up against management.

Edited March 1, 2007 by Parky

[luckyluke 2]

So Cath do you want a day of Michael Owen's pay or a day of Paul Huntingdons?

 

Maybe you should write to all of our players and ask them to adopt one of you each for the day.

 

What a good idea

 

I'll have Gooch please

 

I'd go for Lampard if I were you..£140,000 a week apparently. Most of it on pies.

[Park Life 71]

So Cath do you want a day of Michael Owen's pay or a day of Paul Huntingdons?

 

Maybe you should write to all of our players and ask them to adopt one of you each for the day.

 

What a good idea

 

I'll have Gooch please

 

I'd go for Lampard if I were you..£140,000 a week apparently. Most of it on pies.

 

Footballers wages are insane.

[luckyluke 2]

So Cath do you want a day of Michael Owen's pay or a day of Paul Huntingdons?

 

Maybe you should write to all of our players and ask them to adopt one of you each for the day.

 

What a good idea

 

I'll have Gooch please

 

I'd go for Lampard if I were you..£140,000 a week apparently. Most of it on pies.

 

Footballers wages are insane.

 

I agree. But there's so much money pouring into football then I suppose it's only right that the players get a cut. I'd rather see the likes of Lampard and Terry get paid for providing the entertainment (although with Chelsea it's hard to class their football as such) than Murdoch, Glazer, Shepherd etc getting all the cash.

 

Obviously I'd prefer it if ticket prices/replica shirts/sky subscriptions etc were cheaper, but that's never going to happen sadly.

[Park Life 71]

So Cath do you want a day of Michael Owen's pay or a day of Paul Huntingdons?

 

Maybe you should write to all of our players and ask them to adopt one of you each for the day.

 

What a good idea

 

I'll have Gooch please

 

I'd go for Lampard if I were you..£140,000 a week apparently. Most of it on pies.

 

Footballers wages are insane.

 

I agree. But there's so much money pouring into football then I suppose it's only right that the players get a cut. I'd rather see the likes of Lampard and Terry get paid for providing the entertainment (although with Chelsea it's hard to class their football as such) than Murdoch, Glazer, Shepherd etc getting all the cash.

 

Obviously I'd prefer it if ticket prices/replica shirts/sky subscriptions etc were cheaper, but that's never going to happen sadly.

 

Come the revolution I will shoot every last fucking mother one of them...But perhaps start with the Southern clubs first..

[Renton 22436]

It's always about the nurses. What about us poor radiology staff?

 

Actually, it's a bit surprising the media have focussed solely on nursing staff for this one (well, not surprising, more annoying). After AfC this will affect ALL NHS staff, except clinicians, including me. Rat's cocks!

 

The worst discreprancy I think is seen in primary care, where GPs have been awarded HUGE pay rises with reduced hours (most are now on over 100K with no mandatory call out), whereas the rest of the staff have to make do with less than inflationary rises. The whole thing fucking stinks tbh.

[Steve 0]

It's always about the nurses. What about us poor radiology staff?

 

Actually, it's a bit surprising the media have focussed solely on nursing staff for this one (well, not surprising, more annoying). After AfC this will affect ALL NHS staff, except clinicians, including me. Rat's cocks!

 

The worst discreprancy I think is seen in primary care, where GPs have been awarded HUGE pay rises with reduced hours (most are now on over 100K with no mandatory call out), whereas the rest of the staff have to make do with less than inflationary rises. The whole thing fucking stinks tbh.

 

I'm one of those evil agency staff that are looked upon like scum, particularly around the nurses. I do this because my wage as a permanent NHS employee would be absolutely pitiful. When you get right down to it, agency money isn't all that fantastic. I only make a fraction of what my agency charges the hospital for my time. I make about half of the hourly rate, and I know this because I've seen the invoices that my agency sends out.

 

The thing is though, it is harder to stay employed as agency staff. I have ZERO job security, and can be let go of over night. Technically they're supposed to give a week's notice but I have friends that were told just not to come back the next day because the job was done. Where I work now there is no permanent staff, we are all employed through and agency and the department prefers it that way. Why? Because we have to work to keep our jobs. If we are shit, they simply let us go and get someone else. It's probably the best department I've ever worked in because of that, we all have to work to the absolute highest standard because if not we're gone.

[luckyluke 2]

It's always about the nurses. What about us poor radiology staff?

 

Actually, it's a bit surprising the media have focussed solely on nursing staff for this one (well, not surprising, more annoying). After AfC this will affect ALL NHS staff, except clinicians, including me. Rat's cocks!

 

The worst discreprancy I think is seen in primary care, where GPs have been awarded HUGE pay rises with reduced hours (most are now on over 100K with no mandatory call out), whereas the rest of the staff have to make do with less than inflationary rises. The whole thing fucking stinks tbh.

 

Consultants getting 1.5% rise I think, Junior doctors 3% but GPs are getting nowt this year.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6409435.stm

[Renton 22436]

It's always about the nurses. What about us poor radiology staff?

 

Actually, it's a bit surprising the media have focussed solely on nursing staff for this one (well, not surprising, more annoying). After AfC this will affect ALL NHS staff, except clinicians, including me. Rat's cocks!

 

The worst discreprancy I think is seen in primary care, where GPs have been awarded HUGE pay rises with reduced hours (most are now on over 100K with no mandatory call out), whereas the rest of the staff have to make do with less than inflationary rises. The whole thing fucking stinks tbh.

 

Consultants getting 1.5% rise I think, Junior doctors 3% but GPs are getting nowt this year.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6409435.stm

 

GPs pay should be frozen for 10 years. How is is it justifiable to give junior doctors a bigger rise than other staff?

[luckyluke 2]

It's always about the nurses. What about us poor radiology staff?

 

Actually, it's a bit surprising the media have focussed solely on nursing staff for this one (well, not surprising, more annoying). After AfC this will affect ALL NHS staff, except clinicians, including me. Rat's cocks!

 

The worst discreprancy I think is seen in primary care, where GPs have been awarded HUGE pay rises with reduced hours (most are now on over 100K with no mandatory call out), whereas the rest of the staff have to make do with less than inflationary rises. The whole thing fucking stinks tbh.

 

Consultants getting 1.5% rise I think, Junior doctors 3% but GPs are getting nowt this year.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6409435.stm

 

GPs pay should be frozen for 10 years. How is is it justifiable to give junior doctors a bigger rise than other staff?

 

I don't know.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or care!

 

[Guest alex]

Better not tell rob w.

Your exits are located as follows: two at the front of the cabin, two at the middle and two at the rear. Would be my response to any of his smart arsed comments.

Edited March 2, 2007 by alex

[Park Life 71]

It's always about the nurses. What about us poor radiology staff?

 

Actually, it's a bit surprising the media have focussed solely on nursing staff for this one (well, not surprising, more annoying). After AfC this will affect ALL NHS staff, except clinicians, including me. Rat's cocks!

 

The worst discreprancy I think is seen in primary care, where GPs have been awarded HUGE pay rises with reduced hours (most are now on over 100K with no mandatory call out), whereas the rest of the staff have to make do with less than inflationary rises. The whole thing fucking stinks tbh.

 

I'm one of those evil agency staff that are looked upon like scum, particularly around the nurses. I do this because my wage as a permanent NHS employee would be absolutely pitiful. When you get right down to it, agency money isn't all that fantastic. I only make a fraction of what my agency charges the hospital for my time. I make about half of the hourly rate, and I know this because I've seen the invoices that my agency sends out.

 

The thing is though, it is harder to stay employed as agency staff. I have ZERO job security, and can be let go of over night. Technically they're supposed to give a week's notice but I have friends that were told just not to come back the next day because the job was done. Where I work now there is no permanent staff, we are all employed through and agency and the department prefers it that way. Why? Because we have to work to keep our jobs. If we are shit, they simply let us go and get someone else. It's probably the best department I've ever worked in because of that, we all have to work to the absolute highest standard because if not we're gone.

 

Just out of interest if someting goes wrong are you/the agency insured?

[snakehips 0]

It's always about the nurses. What about us poor radiology staff?

 

Actually, it's a bit surprising the media have focussed solely on nursing staff for this one (well, not surprising, more annoying). After AfC this will affect ALL NHS staff, except clinicians, including me. Rat's cocks!

 

The worst discreprancy I think is seen in primary care, where GPs have been awarded HUGE pay rises with reduced hours (most are now on over 100K with no mandatory call out), whereas the rest of the staff have to make do with less than inflationary rises. The whole thing fucking stinks tbh.

 

I'm one of those evil agency staff that are looked upon like scum, particularly around the nurses. I do this because my wage as a permanent NHS employee would be absolutely pitiful. When you get right down to it, agency money isn't all that fantastic. I only make a fraction of what my agency charges the hospital for my time. I make about half of the hourly rate, and I know this because I've seen the invoices that my agency sends out.

 

The thing is though, it is harder to stay employed as agency staff. I have ZERO job security, and can be let go of over night. Technically they're supposed to give a week's notice but I have friends that were told just not to come back the next day because the job was done. Where I work now there is no permanent staff, we are all employed through and agency and the department prefers it that way. Why? Because we have to work to keep our jobs. If we are shit, they simply let us go and get someone else. It's probably the best department I've ever worked in because of that, we all have to work to the absolute highest standard because if not we're gone.

 

Just out of interest if someting goes wrong are you/the agency insured?

 

Does it matter? Under vicarious liability we would sue NHS, not him or his agency?

[Park Life 71]

It's always about the nurses. What about us poor radiology staff?

 

Actually, it's a bit surprising the media have focussed solely on nursing staff for this one (well, not surprising, more annoying). After AfC this will affect ALL NHS staff, except clinicians, including me. Rat's cocks!

 

The worst discreprancy I think is seen in primary care, where GPs have been awarded HUGE pay rises with reduced hours (most are now on over 100K with no mandatory call out), whereas the rest of the staff have to make do with less than inflationary rises. The whole thing fucking stinks tbh.

 

I'm one of those evil agency staff that are looked upon like scum, particularly around the nurses. I do this because my wage as a permanent NHS employee would be absolutely pitiful. When you get right down to it, agency money isn't all that fantastic. I only make a fraction of what my agency charges the hospital for my time. I make about half of the hourly rate, and I know this because I've seen the invoices that my agency sends out.

 

The thing is though, it is harder to stay employed as agency staff. I have ZERO job security, and can be let go of over night. Technically they're supposed to give a week's notice but I have friends that were told just not to come back the next day because the job was done. Where I work now there is no permanent staff, we are all employed through and agency and the department prefers it that way. Why? Because we have to work to keep our jobs. If we are shit, they simply let us go and get someone else. It's probably the best department I've ever worked in because of that, we all have to work to the absolute highest standard because if not we're gone.

 

Just out of interest if someting goes wrong are you/the agency insured?

 

Does it matter? Under vicarious liability we would sue NHS, not him or his agency?

 

That's the point surely if the agencies move in to take off the cream, they should also be burdened with some of the responsability. I take your point however.

[Smooth Operator 10]

I would guess that Bellamy and all the Scottish footballers will not be participating!!!

[Guest alex]

Robert Lee would have been gutted if he was still playing. Allegedly.

[Renton 22436]

Don't know if it's been said but does anyone else find this incredibly patronising?

[Guest alex]

Don't know if it's been said but does anyone else find this incredibly patronising?

Do you have to put a negative spin on everything?

[Smooth Operator 10]

I'd retire for the day in question if I was a pro footballer.