Jusoda Kid 1 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 (edited) Roeder's fucking dreaming again tbh. The only way he's looking at Baile is for his fucking dream team in the Mirror. How daft does Rodent and Freddy Starr think we are? Edited February 20, 2007 by Wacky Jnr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Unless we have a large transfer fund for the summer we are wasting our time. Also for the price he is going to cost I would rather go for someone with a bit experience and some experence at the top level. We need someone who will perform straight away, not in a couple of seasons! Look at Walcott. Reckon we could tempt Wigan to get Baines for a similar fee that will be demanded for Bale. I don't rate Leighton Baines at all, can't understand what all of the hype is tbh I thought I was the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 do you really wish he didn't let people know that we were interested in young talent???? I would much rather hear that we were at least in the market for problem positions than not. Seems that Newcastle cannot do anything right by you guys, i am feeling pretty optimistic these days. You moan that we did not buy anyone in January but a couple of years ago you moaned when we bought an eight million pound defender. Roeders transfer record is exceptional and he is blooding youngsters - i know you will mention Duff but he will find form hes a quality player and we will always make a profit on the 5 mill spent regardless ofhow he does. Our best players are coming back from injury were moving up the table we are interested in young quality british players - - - - - whats everyones issue? Poor: Rossi Duff Bernard Srnicek Ok: Sibierski The Gooch (too early to say) Good: Martins Exceptional indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Baines is a quality left back, would vastly improve our back 4. That's hardly glowing praise tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Baines is a quality left back, would vastly improve our back 4. That's hardly glowing praise tbh. And not strictly true. He's not exactly much better than Babayaro tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lktmpl 0 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 do you really wish he didn't let people know that we were interested in young talent???? I would much rather hear that we were at least in the market for problem positions than not. Seems that Newcastle cannot do anything right by you guys, i am feeling pretty optimistic these days. You moan that we did not buy anyone in January but a couple of years ago you moaned when we bought an eight million pound defender. Roeders transfer record is exceptional and he is blooding youngsters - i know you will mention Duff but he will find form hes a quality player and we will always make a profit on the 5 mill spent regardless ofhow he does. Our best players are coming back from injury were moving up the table we are interested in young quality british players - - - - - whats everyones issue? Poor: Rossi Duff Bernard Srnicek Ok: Sibierski The Gooch (too early to say) Good: Martins Exceptional indeed Rossi - free so who cares really we got him in as cover and he provided exactly that. Duff - IS quality hasn't performed yet but he will and even we sell him we will make a profit therefore compared to other signings was good. Bernard - Agreed has done less than nothing but again free - and we have no idea the terms of his contract we can only speculate. Srnicek - see Rossi Sibierski - was a quality striker name me another striker in the premier league that has a better cost to goals ratio? 'Gooch' - Cannot even consider after a couple of games Martins - Everyone thought he was second choice to Kuyt, who would you rather now? Who would you rather we signed? Ignoring Campbell who has, like Sibierski, over performed who would you have signed for 15mill? Players like Lescott have done fantastic but had we paid 5mill for him last season people like you would have doubted him as being overpriced unproven player. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathras 296 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Sibierski - was a quality striker name me another striker in the premier league that has a better cost to goals ratio? ' McBride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Kanu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Baines is a quality left back, would vastly improve our back 4. That's hardly glowing praise tbh. And not strictly true. He's not exactly much better than Babayaro tbh He is a hell of a lot better than Babayaro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 name me another striker in the premier league that has a better cost to goals ratio? Kevin Doyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Baines is a quality left back, would vastly improve our back 4. That's hardly glowing praise tbh. And not strictly true. He's not exactly much better than Babayaro tbh He is a hell of a lot better than Babayaro Disagree. You still love Faye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 do you really wish he didn't let people know that we were interested in young talent???? I would much rather hear that we were at least in the market for problem positions than not. Seems that Newcastle cannot do anything right by you guys, i am feeling pretty optimistic these days. You moan that we did not buy anyone in January but a couple of years ago you moaned when we bought an eight million pound defender. Roeders transfer record is exceptional and he is blooding youngsters - i know you will mention Duff but he will find form hes a quality player and we will always make a profit on the 5 mill spent regardless ofhow he does. Our best players are coming back from injury were moving up the table we are interested in young quality british players - - - - - whats everyones issue? Poor: Rossi Duff Bernard Srnicek Ok: Sibierski The Gooch (too early to say) Good: Martins Exceptional indeed Rossi - free so who cares really we got him in as cover and he provided exactly that. Duff - IS quality hasn't performed yet but he will and even we sell him we will make a profit therefore compared to other signings was good. Bernard - Agreed has done less than nothing but again free - and we have no idea the terms of his contract we can only speculate. Srnicek - see Rossi Sibierski - was a quality striker name me another striker in the premier league that has a better cost to goals ratio? 'Gooch' - Cannot even consider after a couple of games Martins - Everyone thought he was second choice to Kuyt, who would you rather now? Who would you rather we signed? Ignoring Campbell who has, like Sibierski, over performed who would you have signed for 15mill? Players like Lescott have done fantastic but had we paid 5mill for him last season people like you would have doubted him as being overpriced unproven player. LOL Exceptional though? You've named 1 player who has done well, purely on the basis that he was Roeder's second choice anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Baines is a quality left back, would vastly improve our back 4. That's hardly glowing praise tbh. And not strictly true. He's not exactly much better than Babayaro tbh He is a hell of a lot better than Babayaro Disagree. You still love Faye Will have to agree to disagree, I could put some comment on the end of this about things you have said in the past but I wont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lktmpl 0 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 (edited) do you really wish he didn't let people know that we were interested in young talent???? I would much rather hear that we were at least in the market for problem positions than not. Seems that Newcastle cannot do anything right by you guys, i am feeling pretty optimistic these days. You moan that we did not buy anyone in January but a couple of years ago you moaned when we bought an eight million pound defender. Roeders transfer record is exceptional and he is blooding youngsters - i know you will mention Duff but he will find form hes a quality player and we will always make a profit on the 5 mill spent regardless ofhow he does. Our best players are coming back from injury were moving up the table we are interested in young quality british players - - - - - whats everyones issue? Poor: Rossi Duff Bernard Srnicek Ok: Sibierski The Gooch (too early to say) Good: Martins Exceptional indeed Rossi - free so who cares really we got him in as cover and he provided exactly that. Duff - IS quality hasn't performed yet but he will and even we sell him we will make a profit therefore compared to other signings was good. Bernard - Agreed has done less than nothing but again free - and we have no idea the terms of his contract we can only speculate. Srnicek - see Rossi Sibierski - was a quality striker name me another striker in the premier league that has a better cost to goals ratio? 'Gooch' - Cannot even consider after a couple of games Martins - Everyone thought he was second choice to Kuyt, who would you rather now? Who would you rather we signed? Ignoring Campbell who has, like Sibierski, over performed who would you have signed for 15mill? Players like Lescott have done fantastic but had we paid 5mill for him last season people like you would have doubted him as being overpriced unproven player. LOL Exceptional though? You've named 1 player who has done well, purely on the basis that he was Roeder's second choice anyway. Maybe exceptional is a strong phrase - he has a better track record for transfers than any recent newcastle manager and very comprable to the best in the premier league. Is it confirmed Martins was Roeders second choice? - i may be wrong but when has he actually stated this, as far as i was aware he always made it very apparent he wanted both? Mcbride cost a million, goals to cost ratio is significantly worse Kevin Doyle has scored more goals - but cost more than Sibbers - 78k giving sibers a better goal to cost ratio Kanu has more goals agreed but in more full games. Who would you rather partnering Martins? Seriously. Edited February 20, 2007 by lktmpl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Kanu, his international team mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lktmpl 0 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 do you really wish he didn't let people know that we were interested in young talent???? I would much rather hear that we were at least in the market for problem positions than not. Seems that Newcastle cannot do anything right by you guys, i am feeling pretty optimistic these days. You moan that we did not buy anyone in January but a couple of years ago you moaned when we bought an eight million pound defender. Roeders transfer record is exceptional and he is blooding youngsters - i know you will mention Duff but he will find form hes a quality player and we will always make a profit on the 5 mill spent regardless ofhow he does. Our best players are coming back from injury were moving up the table we are interested in young quality british players - - - - - whats everyones issue? Poor: Rossi Duff Bernard Srnicek Ok: Sibierski The Gooch (too early to say) Good: Martins Exceptional indeed Rossi - free so who cares really we got him in as cover and he provided exactly that. Duff - IS quality hasn't performed yet but he will and even we sell him we will make a profit therefore compared to other signings was good. Bernard - Agreed has done less than nothing but again free - and we have no idea the terms of his contract we can only speculate. Srnicek - see Rossi Sibierski - was a quality striker name me another striker in the premier league that has a better cost to goals ratio? 'Gooch' - Cannot even consider after a couple of games Martins - Everyone thought he was second choice to Kuyt, who would you rather now? Who would you rather we signed? Ignoring Campbell who has, like Sibierski, over performed who would you have signed for 15mill? Players like Lescott have done fantastic but had we paid 5mill for him last season people like you would have doubted him as being overpriced unproven player. LOL Exceptional though? You've named 1 player who has done well, purely on the basis that he was Roeder's second choice anyway. 2 players - i think sibierski has done exceptional for a free transfer and Martins is clearly a very dangerous striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 The reason Roeder's record is poor is because who he hasn't signed. Both in the summer and January we were crying out for defenders (particularly full backs) and Gooch aside he has failed to address this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser 1321 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 do you really wish he didn't let people know that we were interested in young talent???? I would much rather hear that we were at least in the market for problem positions than not. Seems that Newcastle cannot do anything right by you guys, i am feeling pretty optimistic these days. You moan that we did not buy anyone in January but a couple of years ago you moaned when we bought an eight million pound defender. Roeders transfer record is exceptional and he is blooding youngsters - i know you will mention Duff but he will find form hes a quality player and we will always make a profit on the 5 mill spent regardless ofhow he does. Our best players are coming back from injury were moving up the table we are interested in young quality british players - - - - - whats everyones issue? Poor: Rossi Duff Bernard Srnicek Ok: Sibierski The Gooch (too early to say) Good: Martins Exceptional indeed Gol i think thats a bit harsh. Rossi was a loan signing, didnt cost us anything and he's gone now. Anyone would have taken Duff at £5mil and who knows, it may be next year before we see the best of him. As far as Bernard and Srnicek go, Im not sure whether Bernard was a sole decision by Roeder, considering he's never even been given a place through all our injuries. Srnicek has been poor granted and i think it was maybe a poor attempt to get some fans off his back at the time (ooh look we've signed a former favourite) Le Sib aint no world beater but i think its been an excellent signing considering that we got him for nothing on the last day, everyone was totally underwhelmed but hes scored goals, and got us points where they didnt look possible. Gooch cant be considered Martins, yes a good buy Im more optimistic under Roeder than I was under Souness and think he's going about the right way to put the club back onto some solid foundations. No-one in the national media seems to consider us as a big club anymore so I'd like to think that while we're out of the limelight, we can continue to develop our young players and play the underdog. We may actually win something when the expectation isnt there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lktmpl 0 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 (edited) The reason Roeder's record is poor is because who he hasn't signed. Both in the summer and January we were crying out for defenders (particularly full backs) and Gooch aside he has failed to address this. We have been 'crying out' for defenders in Jan and the summer for about the last 6 years! We signed an 8million pound disaster a couple of years ago and have alway splashed out on defenders that have failed - this cycle needs to change. Boumsong 8mill Bramble 5mill Babayaro 2mill Marcelino 5mill Carr 2.5mill Would you rather we blew another large amount of money on an unproven player? I fully agree with Roeders decision to take a centre back on loan only, with hindsight i guess you wish we did the same with the above surely? I know we need other full backs but who was available - at a reasonable price. Ashley Young went for 10mill, Bale would have cost 10mill - prices where hyper inflated. It is a bad idea to panic buy when we have youngsters who granted aren't going to win us the league - but they could get us into Europe. We are not in a position to spend millions on a player when we could get him for half the price in the summer and i am glad we didn't. I guess we could pack our defence with journey men foreigners like Bolton but i think the only way will ever get into a position like we were a few years ago is through youngsters. I am perfectly happy to consolidate for a couple of years using youngsters and i think we will have a very good team, if we had an under 23's league we would be one of the best teams in it. Buying cheap foreigners would just disrupt this progression. Some of our supporters may have no faith in our youth but other more Knowledgeable people do. Taylor is on the verge of an England call up, Huntington has been singled out for praise via various mangers, Gooch was wanted by some of Europes to clubs, Edgar will be a good squad player and Solano has proved he is more than capable at fullback. Our defence is not that bad for the time being. Edited February 21, 2007 by lktmpl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4183 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 do you really wish he didn't let people know that we were interested in young talent???? I would much rather hear that we were at least in the market for problem positions than not. Seems that Newcastle cannot do anything right by you guys, i am feeling pretty optimistic these days. You moan that we did not buy anyone in January but a couple of years ago you moaned when we bought an eight million pound defender. Roeders transfer record is exceptional and he is blooding youngsters - i know you will mention Duff but he will find form hes a quality player and we will always make a profit on the 5 mill spent regardless ofhow he does. Our best players are coming back from injury were moving up the table we are interested in young quality british players - - - - - whats everyones issue? Poor: Rossi Duff Bernard Srnicek Ok: Sibierski The Gooch (too early to say) Good: Martins Exceptional indeed Gol i think thats a bit harsh. Rossi was a loan signing, didnt cost us anything and he's gone now. Anyone would have taken Duff at £5mil and who knows, it may be next year before we see the best of him. As far as Bernard and Srnicek go, Im not sure whether Bernard was a sole decision by Roeder, considering he's never even been given a place through all our injuries. Srnicek has been poor granted and i think it was maybe a poor attempt to get some fans off his back at the time (ooh look we've signed a former favourite ) Le Sib aint no world beater but i think its been an excellent signing considering that we got him for nothing on the last day, everyone was totally underwhelmed but hes scored goals, and got us points where they didnt look possible. Gooch cant be considered Martins, yes a good buy Im more optimistic under Roeder than I was under Souness and think he's going about the right way to put the club back onto some solid foundations. No-one in the national media seems to consider us as a big club anymore so I'd like to think that while we're out of the limelight, we can continue to develop our young players and play the underdog. We may actually win something when the expectation isnt there. Srnicek was only signed as Give Harper and Krul all got injured at the same time. Abit harsh to criticise Roeder for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lktmpl 0 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 do you really wish he didn't let people know that we were interested in young talent???? I would much rather hear that we were at least in the market for problem positions than not. Seems that Newcastle cannot do anything right by you guys, i am feeling pretty optimistic these days. You moan that we did not buy anyone in January but a couple of years ago you moaned when we bought an eight million pound defender. Roeders transfer record is exceptional and he is blooding youngsters - i know you will mention Duff but he will find form hes a quality player and we will always make a profit on the 5 mill spent regardless ofhow he does. Our best players are coming back from injury were moving up the table we are interested in young quality british players - - - - - whats everyones issue? Poor: Rossi Duff Bernard Srnicek Ok: Sibierski The Gooch (too early to say) Good: Martins Exceptional indeed Gol i think thats a bit harsh. Rossi was a loan signing, didnt cost us anything and he's gone now. Anyone would have taken Duff at £5mil and who knows, it may be next year before we see the best of him. As far as Bernard and Srnicek go, Im not sure whether Bernard was a sole decision by Roeder, considering he's never even been given a place through all our injuries. Srnicek has been poor granted and i think it was maybe a poor attempt to get some fans off his back at the time (ooh look we've signed a former favourite ) Le Sib aint no world beater but i think its been an excellent signing considering that we got him for nothing on the last day, everyone was totally underwhelmed but hes scored goals, and got us points where they didnt look possible. Gooch cant be considered Martins, yes a good buy Im more optimistic under Roeder than I was under Souness and think he's going about the right way to put the club back onto some solid foundations. No-one in the national media seems to consider us as a big club anymore so I'd like to think that while we're out of the limelight, we can continue to develop our young players and play the underdog. We may actually win something when the expectation isnt there. Srnicek was only signed as Give Harper and Krul all got injured at the same time. Abit harsh to criticise Roeder for that dont think he was first choice either - Hedman was. If no-one else is available might as well have someone how cares the club and the fans respect. I don't reckon roeder actually thought he would have to play though!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 do you really wish he didn't let people know that we were interested in young talent???? I would much rather hear that we were at least in the market for problem positions than not. Seems that Newcastle cannot do anything right by you guys, i am feeling pretty optimistic these days. You moan that we did not buy anyone in January but a couple of years ago you moaned when we bought an eight million pound defender. Roeders transfer record is exceptional and he is blooding youngsters - i know you will mention Duff but he will find form hes a quality player and we will always make a profit on the 5 mill spent regardless ofhow he does. Our best players are coming back from injury were moving up the table we are interested in young quality british players - - - - - whats everyones issue? Poor: Rossi Duff Bernard Srnicek Ok: Sibierski The Gooch (too early to say) Good: Martins Exceptional indeed Gol i think thats a bit harsh. Rossi was a loan signing, didnt cost us anything and he's gone now. Anyone would have taken Duff at £5mil and who knows, it may be next year before we see the best of him. As far as Bernard and Srnicek go, Im not sure whether Bernard was a sole decision by Roeder, considering he's never even been given a place through all our injuries. Srnicek has been poor granted and i think it was maybe a poor attempt to get some fans off his back at the time (ooh look we've signed a former favourite ) Le Sib aint no world beater but i think its been an excellent signing considering that we got him for nothing on the last day, everyone was totally underwhelmed but hes scored goals, and got us points where they didnt look possible. Gooch cant be considered Martins, yes a good buy Im more optimistic under Roeder than I was under Souness and think he's going about the right way to put the club back onto some solid foundations. No-one in the national media seems to consider us as a big club anymore so I'd like to think that while we're out of the limelight, we can continue to develop our young players and play the underdog. We may actually win something when the expectation isnt there. Srnicek was only signed as Give Harper and Krul all got injured at the same time. Abit harsh to criticise Roeder for that I wasn't. I was criticising the word "exceptional" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lktmpl 0 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 (edited) do you really wish he didn't let people know that we were interested in young talent???? I would much rather hear that we were at least in the market for problem positions than not. Seems that Newcastle cannot do anything right by you guys, i am feeling pretty optimistic these days. You moan that we did not buy anyone in January but a couple of years ago you moaned when we bought an eight million pound defender. Roeders transfer record is exceptional and he is blooding youngsters - i know you will mention Duff but he will find form hes a quality player and we will always make a profit on the 5 mill spent regardless ofhow he does. Our best players are coming back from injury were moving up the table we are interested in young quality british players - - - - - whats everyones issue? Poor: Rossi Duff Bernard Srnicek Ok: Sibierski The Gooch (too early to say) Good: Martins Exceptional indeed Gol i think thats a bit harsh. Rossi was a loan signing, didnt cost us anything and he's gone now. Anyone would have taken Duff at £5mil and who knows, it may be next year before we see the best of him. As far as Bernard and Srnicek go, Im not sure whether Bernard was a sole decision by Roeder, considering he's never even been given a place through all our injuries. Srnicek has been poor granted and i think it was maybe a poor attempt to get some fans off his back at the time (ooh look we've signed a former favourite ) Le Sib aint no world beater but i think its been an excellent signing considering that we got him for nothing on the last day, everyone was totally underwhelmed but hes scored goals, and got us points where they didnt look possible. Gooch cant be considered Martins, yes a good buy Im more optimistic under Roeder than I was under Souness and think he's going about the right way to put the club back onto some solid foundations. No-one in the national media seems to consider us as a big club anymore so I'd like to think that while we're out of the limelight, we can continue to develop our young players and play the underdog. We may actually win something when the expectation isnt there. Srnicek was only signed as Give Harper and Krul all got injured at the same time. Abit harsh to criticise Roeder for that I wasn't. I was criticising the word "exceptional" so how would you describe Roeders record? I withdrew exceptional and said possibly the best record of all recent newcastle managers and competative with the best in the league. Edited February 21, 2007 by lktmpl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31580 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 do you really wish he didn't let people know that we were interested in young talent???? I would much rather hear that we were at least in the market for problem positions than not. Seems that Newcastle cannot do anything right by you guys, i am feeling pretty optimistic these days. You moan that we did not buy anyone in January but a couple of years ago you moaned when we bought an eight million pound defender. Roeders transfer record is exceptional and he is blooding youngsters - i know you will mention Duff but he will find form hes a quality player and we will always make a profit on the 5 mill spent regardless ofhow he does. Our best players are coming back from injury were moving up the table we are interested in young quality british players - - - - - whats everyones issue? Poor: Rossi Duff Bernard Srnicek Ok: Sibierski The Gooch (too early to say) Good: Martins Exceptional indeed Gol i think thats a bit harsh. Rossi was a loan signing, didnt cost us anything and he's gone now. Anyone would have taken Duff at £5mil and who knows, it may be next year before we see the best of him. As far as Bernard and Srnicek go, Im not sure whether Bernard was a sole decision by Roeder, considering he's never even been given a place through all our injuries. Srnicek has been poor granted and i think it was maybe a poor attempt to get some fans off his back at the time (ooh look we've signed a former favourite ) Le Sib aint no world beater but i think its been an excellent signing considering that we got him for nothing on the last day, everyone was totally underwhelmed but hes scored goals, and got us points where they didnt look possible. Gooch cant be considered Martins, yes a good buy Im more optimistic under Roeder than I was under Souness and think he's going about the right way to put the club back onto some solid foundations. No-one in the national media seems to consider us as a big club anymore so I'd like to think that while we're out of the limelight, we can continue to develop our young players and play the underdog. We may actually win something when the expectation isnt there. Srnicek was only signed as Give Harper and Krul all got injured at the same time. Abit harsh to criticise Roeder for that I wasn't. I was criticising the word "exceptional" so how would you describe Roeders record? I withdrew exceptional and said possibly the best record of all recent newcastle managers and competative with the best in the league. One question: Are you fucking mental? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathras 296 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 How about "acceptable"? That's about as far as I'd be willing to go, and that only because I'm making allowances for the amount of cash that Freddy's made available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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