geordieshandy 0 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 And what infrastructure? I doubt their facilities compare to ours Light years ahead of us in terms of back room methods and sports science tbh, its not luck that they can prolong the careers of the 30+ brigade whereas we struggle to keep half of our squad fit. most of that is down to the club personel not physical facilities which we have in a bundance we won't get that right until we stop rotating the staff every 2 or 3 seasons Personel and there not being a nightlife in Bolton. Agreed on the revolving door policy of staff though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30369 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 And what infrastructure? I doubt their facilities compare to ours Light years ahead of us in terms of back room methods and sports science tbh, its not luck that they can prolong the careers of the 30+ brigade whereas we struggle to keep half of our squad fit. most of that is down to the club personel not physical facilities which we have in a bundance we won't get that right until we stop rotating the staff every 2 or 3 seasons Well they had video/player tracking systems in place long before the rest of the teams in the PL and have invested resources in injury prevention and recovery which has enabled them to operate on a much tighter player budget than we've had. But this is as a result of 'planning' and having consistency in the backroom staff. When Roeder took over he spoke a lot about having a structure within the club which would help with these sorts of issues but so far we've yet to see any evidence of this 'plan'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 It looks like Bolton have already made a summer-signing of a centre-half, now that's planning well, if he's crap, it isn't really is it You could also say, 91 clubs aren't "planning" Well I never, it looks like I built a soap-box for Leazes Mag to climb upon and start to spout off again with his nonsensical orations. Gerald Cid is 23 years old and plays for Bordeaux in the French Ligue 1, and they are in 9th. place so perhaps Sam might turn out to be better planner for the future than Glen is. and your knowledge and experience of Newcastle is what exactly ? Apart from making knee jerk reactions without giving the current manager a chance to see if his "plan" works that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Have a look at how much we have spent compared to the likes of Bolton and I would suggest that goes someway to explaining how. I don't know anything about the player tbh but Allardyce doesnt often sign poor players. Why is any player allowed to leave a club? Sol Campbell left Arsenal on a free is he shit like? Allardyce and Bolton clearly have had a plan although im sure you will still claim they didn't it all just fell into place out of luck and the fact they couldn't splash out vast sums. He has also signed a 20 year old defensive midfielder who is captain for his club but im sure he just got lucky this player became available and the lad is probably shit anyway. Listen Jon, stop mentioning Bolton and Allardyce together, because the "plan" you harp on about isn't Boltons "plan", its Allardyces' judgement. When Allardyce goes, will Boltons "plan" continue to put them where they are now ? Unlikely. Think about it. Every club appoints a manager on a contract for 2, 3, 4, or 5 years who exercises his judgement, coaching and playing strategy and ideas. Some of them have good judgement but in terms of winning trophies, qualifying for europe, gaining promotion from the lower leagues, the vast majority of them don't. If you really want to call it a "plan", then they ALL have their "plan", but only a handful of them have a good "plan". The "plan" doesn't guarantee success, it is down to the ability of the manager. I really can't explain this any more. If you can't see the difference ....... Listen leazes, You are sooo boring its unreal Some clubs appoint the right manager some clubs appoint someone who is clearly the wrong manager and then go for the easy option, which one are we? sorry Jon, but you have your head so far up your arse its unreal. Only 4 teams have qualified for europe more than us in the last decade. Fact. Bad "planning" ....... Get a mind of your own and stop spouting these daft cliches just because others do, is my advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Have a look at how much we have spent compared to the likes of Bolton and I would suggest that goes someway to explaining how. I don't know anything about the player tbh but Allardyce doesnt often sign poor players. Why is any player allowed to leave a club? Sol Campbell left Arsenal on a free is he shit like? Allardyce and Bolton clearly have had a plan although im sure you will still claim they didn't it all just fell into place out of luck and the fact they couldn't splash out vast sums. He has also signed a 20 year old defensive midfielder who is captain for his club but im sure he just got lucky this player became available and the lad is probably shit anyway. Listen Jon, stop mentioning Bolton and Allardyce together, because the "plan" you harp on about isn't Boltons "plan", its Allardyces' judgement. When Allardyce goes, will Boltons "plan" continue to put them where they are now ? Unlikely. Think about it. Every club appoints a manager on a contract for 2, 3, 4, or 5 years who exercises his judgement, coaching and playing strategy and ideas. Some of them have good judgement but in terms of winning trophies, qualifying for europe, gaining promotion from the lower leagues, the vast majority of them don't. If you really want to call it a "plan", then they ALL have their "plan", but only a handful of them have a good "plan". The "plan" doesn't guarantee success, it is down to the ability of the manager. I really can't explain this any more. If you can't see the difference ....... Listen leazes, You are sooo boring its unreal Some clubs appoint the right manager some clubs appoint someone who is clearly the wrong manager and then go for the easy option, which one are we? sorry Jon, but you have your head so far up your arse its unreal. Only 4 teams have qualified for europe more than us in the last decade. Fact. Bad "planning" ....... Get a mind of your own and stop spouting these daft cliches just because others do, is my advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Have a look at how much we have spent compared to the likes of Bolton and I would suggest that goes someway to explaining how. I don't know anything about the player tbh but Allardyce doesnt often sign poor players. Why is any player allowed to leave a club? Sol Campbell left Arsenal on a free is he shit like? Allardyce and Bolton clearly have had a plan although im sure you will still claim they didn't it all just fell into place out of luck and the fact they couldn't splash out vast sums. He has also signed a 20 year old defensive midfielder who is captain for his club but im sure he just got lucky this player became available and the lad is probably shit anyway. Listen Jon, stop mentioning Bolton and Allardyce together, because the "plan" you harp on about isn't Boltons "plan", its Allardyces' judgement. When Allardyce goes, will Boltons "plan" continue to put them where they are now ? Unlikely. Think about it. Every club appoints a manager on a contract for 2, 3, 4, or 5 years who exercises his judgement, coaching and playing strategy and ideas. Some of them have good judgement but in terms of winning trophies, qualifying for europe, gaining promotion from the lower leagues, the vast majority of them don't. If you really want to call it a "plan", then they ALL have their "plan", but only a handful of them have a good "plan". The "plan" doesn't guarantee success, it is down to the ability of the manager. I really can't explain this any more. If you can't see the difference ....... Listen leazes, You are sooo boring its unreal Some clubs appoint the right manager some clubs appoint someone who is clearly the wrong manager and then go for the easy option, which one are we? sorry Jon, but you have your head so far up your arse its unreal. Only 4 teams have qualified for europe more than us in the last decade. Fact. Bad "planning" ....... Get a mind of your own and stop spouting these daft cliches just because others do, is my advice nothing intelligent to add then ? Such as putting up factual information to prove my comments to be incorrect, for example ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 And what infrastructure? I doubt their facilities compare to ours Light years ahead of us in terms of back room methods and sports science tbh, its not luck that they can prolong the careers of the 30+ brigade whereas we struggle to keep half of our squad fit. most of that is down to the club personel not physical facilities which we have in a bundance we won't get that right until we stop rotating the staff every 2 or 3 seasons Well they had video/player tracking systems in place long before the rest of the teams in the PL and have invested resources in injury prevention and recovery which has enabled them to operate on a much tighter player budget than we've had. But this is as a result of 'planning' and having consistency in the backroom staff. When Roeder took over he spoke a lot about having a structure within the club which would help with these sorts of issues but so far we've yet to see any evidence of this 'plan'. oh dear. How is the Spurs "plan" coming along these days and the Villa "plan", and the West Ham "plan", and the Man City "plan", and the Leeds "plan" ....... to name a few. These clubs used to have better "plans" than us, why don't they now I wonder. Funny old game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 nothing intelligent to add then ? Such as putting up factual information to prove my comments to be incorrect, for example ? What's the point, you won't read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Leazes is bored and trying to pick an argument tbh No luck as yet on here or N-O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieMessiah 2 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Leazes is bored and trying to pick an argument tbh No luck as yet on here or N-O. Poor old bugger must be doing his nut by now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 nothing intelligent to add then ? Such as putting up factual information to prove my comments to be incorrect, for example ? What's the point, you won't read it. have you posted it previously then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted February 11, 2007 Author Share Posted February 11, 2007 and your knowledge and experience of Newcastle is what exactly ? Surely this question can't be directed at me LeazesMag!! Surely you can't be asking a 74 year old Geordie gadgee what his knowledge and experience of Newcastle is!! A lad who was weaned on Stubbins & Milburn, Brennan & Mitchell, was in his late teens and early twenties when we won the Cup 3 times, stood in the Gallowgate end in the rain & snow on more than one occasion. Followed the Lads in any which way I could since a schoolboy(before you were born) and never faltered in my support no matter where I was, who was playing, who was in charge, and what division they were in. I think I should take me soap-box away so you can't clamber up on it to spout your egotistical pedantic rhetoric which for the most part is hypothetical nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 and your knowledge and experience of Newcastle is what exactly ? Surely this question can't be directed at me LeazesMag!! Surely you can't be asking a 74 year old Geordie gadgee what his knowledge and experience of Newcastle is!! A lad who was weaned on Stubbins & Milburn, Brennan & Mitchell, was in his late teens and early twenties when we won the Cup 3 times, stood in the Gallowgate end in the rain & snow on more than one occasion. Followed the Lads in any which way I could since a schoolboy(before you were born) and never faltered in my support no matter where I was, who was playing, who was in charge, and what division they were in. I think I should take me soap-box away so you can't clamber up on it to spout your egotistical pedantic rhetoric which for the most part is hypothetical nonsense. Old man Leazes loses his trump card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 and your knowledge and experience of Newcastle is what exactly ? Surely this question can't be directed at me LeazesMag!! Surely you can't be asking a 74 year old Geordie gadgee what his knowledge and experience of Newcastle is!! A lad who was weaned on Stubbins & Milburn, Brennan & Mitchell, was in his late teens and early twenties when we won the Cup 3 times, stood in the Gallowgate end in the rain & snow on more than one occasion. Followed the Lads in any which way I could since a schoolboy(before you were born) and never faltered in my support no matter where I was, who was playing, who was in charge, and what division they were in. I think I should take me soap-box away so you can't clamber up on it to spout your egotistical pedantic rhetoric which for the most part is hypothetical nonsense. bloody gloryhunters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 and your knowledge and experience of Newcastle is what exactly ? Surely this question can't be directed at me LeazesMag!! Surely you can't be asking a 74 year old Geordie gadgee what his knowledge and experience of Newcastle is!! A lad who was weaned on Stubbins & Milburn, Brennan & Mitchell, was in his late teens and early twenties when we won the Cup 3 times, stood in the Gallowgate end in the rain & snow on more than one occasion. Followed the Lads in any which way I could since a schoolboy(before you were born) and never faltered in my support no matter where I was, who was playing, who was in charge, and what division they were in. I think I should take me soap-box away so you can't clamber up on it to spout your egotistical pedantic rhetoric which for the most part is hypothetical nonsense. Game, set and match Noelie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 I could actually merge every thread Leazes posts in I think. They all end up the same anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3859 Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 and your knowledge and experience of Newcastle is what exactly ? Surely this question can't be directed at me LeazesMag!! Surely you can't be asking a 74 year old Geordie gadgee what his knowledge and experience of Newcastle is!! A lad who was weaned on Stubbins & Milburn, Brennan & Mitchell, was in his late teens and early twenties when we won the Cup 3 times, stood in the Gallowgate end in the rain & snow on more than one occasion. Followed the Lads in any which way I could since a schoolboy(before you were born) and never faltered in my support no matter where I was, who was playing, who was in charge, and what division they were in. I think I should take me soap-box away so you can't clamber up on it to spout your egotistical pedantic rhetoric which for the most part is hypothetical nonsense. It is. He can. Cos he is a cock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Leazes pwned by Noelie:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 (edited) and your knowledge and experience of Newcastle is what exactly ? Surely this question can't be directed at me LeazesMag!! Surely you can't be asking a 74 year old Geordie gadgee what his knowledge and experience of Newcastle is!! A lad who was weaned on Stubbins & Milburn, Brennan & Mitchell, was in his late teens and early twenties when we won the Cup 3 times, stood in the Gallowgate end in the rain & snow on more than one occasion. Followed the Lads in any which way I could since a schoolboy(before you were born) and never faltered in my support no matter where I was, who was playing, who was in charge, and what division they were in. I think I should take me soap-box away so you can't clamber up on it to spout your egotistical pedantic rhetoric which for the most part is hypothetical nonsense. It is. He can. Cos he is a cock. Strange, because I think KK bandwagon jumpers are cocks. And I also think people who went to watch the toon pre-1992 who are so blind they cannot see the huge change for the better in the approach of the club since then are also cocks. I also think people who they "supported the club before Keegan" and didn't, and know the didn't, are the biggest cocks of all. So, you're a cock whichever of those camps you fall in. Edited February 12, 2007 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 and your knowledge and experience of Newcastle is what exactly ? Surely this question can't be directed at me LeazesMag!! Surely you can't be asking a 74 year old Geordie gadgee what his knowledge and experience of Newcastle is!! A lad who was weaned on Stubbins & Milburn, Brennan & Mitchell, was in his late teens and early twenties when we won the Cup 3 times, stood in the Gallowgate end in the rain & snow on more than one occasion. Followed the Lads in any which way I could since a schoolboy(before you were born) and never faltered in my support no matter where I was, who was playing, who was in charge, and what division they were in. I think I should take me soap-box away so you can't clamber up on it to spout your egotistical pedantic rhetoric which for the most part is hypothetical nonsense. Strange, it would appear you can't add up, if you think I was born after Mitchell and Milburn played for the club I don't know how long you have lived in Canada, but it is fair to say winning the cup 3 times in 5 years must have been brilliant. Assuming you have lived in Canada for a substantial part of the 50 years that have passed since that time, you will be slightly oblivious to how far the club had dived, until 1992. That is my point. The above post is true, the depths the club plummeted to that I describe is true, the club we have now is down to this board and the appointment of Keegan which set the ball rolling. And the statistic that only 4 clubs have qualified for europe more than us in the last decade is FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10779 Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Strange, because I think KK bandwagon jumpers are cocks. And I also think people who went to watch the toon pre-1992 who are so blind they cannot see the huge change for the better in the approach of the club since then are also cocks. I also think people who they "supported the club before Keegan" and didn't, are the biggest cocks of all. So, you're a cock whichever of those camps you fall in. you're a fucking cartoon sunshine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Strange, because I think KK bandwagon jumpers are cocks. And I also think people who went to watch the toon pre-1992 who are so blind they cannot see the huge change for the better in the approach of the club since then are also cocks. I also think people who they "supported the club before Keegan" and didn't, are the biggest cocks of all. So, you're a cock whichever of those camps you fall in. you're a fucking cartoon sunshine... but you can't dispute the FACT ? Why not ? It not my fault the facts don't suit your "opinion" mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Strange, because I think KK bandwagon jumpers are cocks. And I also think people who went to watch the toon pre-1992 who are so blind they cannot see the huge change for the better in the approach of the club since then are also cocks. I also think people who they "supported the club before Keegan" and didn't, are the biggest cocks of all. So, you're a cock whichever of those camps you fall in. you're a fucking cartoon sunshine... but you can't dispute the FACT ? Why not ? It not my fault the facts don't suit your "opinion" mate The only FACT is that you seem to be so arrogant it's untrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10779 Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 but you can't dispute the FACT ? Why not ? It not my fault the facts don't suit your "opinion" mate honestly don't read your posts anymore Leazes, they're just the same shite repeated ad infinitum. But this one caught my eye. Your perception seems to be, basically, anybody who isn't you is a cock... and yet you don't see the paradox. we've stagnated for the last 10 years or so, we've not progressed one step and in fact I'd say we've stumbled back a step or two. The quality of football being played has worsened, the quality of footballers at the club has worsened, the fact you cling desperately to the FACT that we've played in europe simply compounds your head in the sand attitude. grow up man, you're like a seven yr old who simply says "I know you are, but what am I" as his stock reply to any challenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Strange, because I think KK bandwagon jumpers are cocks. And I also think people who went to watch the toon pre-1992 who are so blind they cannot see the huge change for the better in the approach of the club since then are also cocks. I also think people who they "supported the club before Keegan" and didn't, are the biggest cocks of all. So, you're a cock whichever of those camps you fall in. you're a fucking cartoon sunshine... but you can't dispute the FACT ? Why not ? It not my fault the facts don't suit your "opinion" mate The only FACT is that you seem to be so arrogant it's untrue. Well, its not intended. I think so many people not looking at facts, and not taking in things others try to tell them that they have witnessed, is untrue, and a touch arrogant as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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