Noelie 103 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 It looks like Bolton have already made a summer-signing of a centre-half, now that's planning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 0 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 It's as if they knew where they needed to strengthen, found the players well in advance and got them for buttons. Amateurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 (edited) It looks like Bolton have already made a summer-signing of a centre-half, now that's planning well, if he's crap, it isn't really is it You could also say, 91 clubs aren't "planning" Edited February 9, 2007 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkikiet 0 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Villareal have signed a centre back too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Villareal have signed a centre back too. Good. How many clubs in the world aren't "planning" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Villareal have signed a centre back too. Good. How many clubs in the world aren't "planning" Just us, it seems mate... just us. but don't let that stop you mocking those clubs that do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Villareal have signed a centre back too. Good. How many clubs in the world aren't "planning" Just us, it seems mate... just us. but don't let that stop you mocking those clubs that do. nah, you don't qualify for europe more than any club bar 4 without "planning". Anyway ..... who is this centre half ? Bob Stokoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Villareal have signed a centre back too. Good. How many clubs in the world aren't "planning" Just us, it seems mate... just us. but don't let that stop you mocking those clubs that do. nah, you don't qualify for europe more than any club bar 4 without "planning". Anyway ..... who is this centre half ? Bob Stokoe I wouldn't laugh too hard at Bolton, considering what they have spent they are doing very fucking well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 (edited) Villareal have signed a centre back too. Good. How many clubs in the world aren't "planning" Just us, it seems mate... just us. but don't let that stop you mocking those clubs that do. nah, you don't qualify for europe more than any club bar 4 without "planning". Anyway ..... who is this centre half ? Bob Stokoe I wouldn't laugh too hard at Bolton, considering what they have spent they are doing very fucking well! I'm not laughing at Sam Allardyce at all, I think he's done a great job and he has been my choice as manager before we appointed both the Scottish fuckpig and Roeder. Edited February 9, 2007 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Well their manager seemed to have a plan buying "past it" players because he didnt have the budget to buy a squad at the top of their game. They are 5 places above us and have conceeded 10 goals less. I don't think this happened by luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Well their manager seemed to have a plan buying "past it" players because he didnt have the budget to buy a squad at the top of their game. They are 5 places above us and have conceeded 10 goals less. I don't think this happened by luck. no it isn't luck. But this player he is signing, is nothing more than a player who he knows about who has became available. And buying players within a budget isn't anything to do with a "plan" either, its the manager just making judgements. What is your opinion on this player - whoever he is - not having a club, or being released by his club ? Why is this ? And - what do you think is the difference between this and us bringing in loan players while we look to take our time and spend our own money wisely ? Its just because its Newcastle United isn't it The grass is greener and all that, etc etc etc.....how have we qualified more for europe in the last decade than all these clubs with better "plans" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Have a look at how much we have spent compared to the likes of Bolton and I would suggest that goes someway to explaining how. I don't know anything about the player tbh but Allardyce doesnt often sign poor players. Why is any player allowed to leave a club? Sol Campbell left Arsenal on a free is he shit like? Allardyce and Bolton clearly have had a plan although im sure you will still claim they didn't it all just fell into place out of luck and the fact they couldn't splash out vast sums. He has also signed a 20 year old defensive midfielder who is captain for his club but im sure he just got lucky this player became available and the lad is probably shit anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Allardyce doesn't like to talk about Nolan though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Have a look at how much we have spent compared to the likes of Bolton and I would suggest that goes someway to explaining how. I don't know anything about the player tbh but Allardyce doesnt often sign poor players. Why is any player allowed to leave a club? Sol Campbell left Arsenal on a free is he shit like? Allardyce and Bolton clearly have had a plan although im sure you will still claim they didn't it all just fell into place out of luck and the fact they couldn't splash out vast sums. He has also signed a 20 year old defensive midfielder who is captain for his club but im sure he just got lucky this player became available and the lad is probably shit anyway. Planning and club and player management wise Bolton are light years ahead of us now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Have a look at how much we have spent compared to the likes of Bolton and I would suggest that goes someway to explaining how. I don't know anything about the player tbh but Allardyce doesnt often sign poor players. Why is any player allowed to leave a club? Sol Campbell left Arsenal on a free is he shit like? Allardyce and Bolton clearly have had a plan although im sure you will still claim they didn't it all just fell into place out of luck and the fact they couldn't splash out vast sums. He has also signed a 20 year old defensive midfielder who is captain for his club but im sure he just got lucky this player became available and the lad is probably shit anyway. Planning and club and player management wise Bolton are light years ahead of us now. they even know how to organise bungs better than us Zurich is in Switzerland right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Have a look at how much we have spent compared to the likes of Bolton and I would suggest that goes someway to explaining how. I don't know anything about the player tbh but Allardyce doesnt often sign poor players. Why is any player allowed to leave a club? Sol Campbell left Arsenal on a free is he shit like? Allardyce and Bolton clearly have had a plan although im sure you will still claim they didn't it all just fell into place out of luck and the fact they couldn't splash out vast sums. He has also signed a 20 year old defensive midfielder who is captain for his club but im sure he just got lucky this player became available and the lad is probably shit anyway. Listen Jon, stop mentioning Bolton and Allardyce together, because the "plan" you harp on about isn't Boltons "plan", its Allardyces' judgement. When Allardyce goes, will Boltons "plan" continue to put them where they are now ? Unlikely. Think about it. Every club appoints a manager on a contract for 2, 3, 4, or 5 years who exercises his judgement, coaching and playing strategy and ideas. Some of them have good judgement but in terms of winning trophies, qualifying for europe, gaining promotion from the lower leagues, the vast majority of them don't. If you really want to call it a "plan", then they ALL have their "plan", but only a handful of them have a good "plan". The "plan" doesn't guarantee success, it is down to the ability of the manager. I really can't explain this any more. If you can't see the difference ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Have a look at how much we have spent compared to the likes of Bolton and I would suggest that goes someway to explaining how. I don't know anything about the player tbh but Allardyce doesnt often sign poor players. Why is any player allowed to leave a club? Sol Campbell left Arsenal on a free is he shit like? Allardyce and Bolton clearly have had a plan although im sure you will still claim they didn't it all just fell into place out of luck and the fact they couldn't splash out vast sums. He has also signed a 20 year old defensive midfielder who is captain for his club but im sure he just got lucky this player became available and the lad is probably shit anyway. Listen Jon, stop mentioning Bolton and Allardyce together, because the "plan" you harp on about isn't Boltons "plan", its Allardyces' judgement. When Allardyce goes, will Boltons "plan" continue to put them where they are now ? Unlikely. Think about it. Every club appoints a manager on a contract for 2, 3, 4, or 5 years who exercises his judgement, coaching and playing strategy and ideas. Some of them have good judgement but in terms of winning trophies, qualifying for europe, gaining promotion from the lower leagues, the vast majority of them don't. If you really want to call it a "plan", then they ALL have their "plan", but only a handful of them have a good "plan". The "plan" doesn't guarantee success, it is down to the ability of the manager. I really can't explain this any more. If you can't see the difference ....... Isn't Allardyces on a 10 year one or something? The problem with this arbitary 10 year thing is also that when we started those 10 years we arguably only really had ONE club above us, now there's at least 4 and maybe 9+ depending on how you look at it. NUFC (or at least the board) doesn't do planning or foresight, it purely does kneejeck and headline grab, no more, no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daaveed Geenola 0 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Bolton are scum cancer football NEVER EVER WILL THE TOON 'PLAY IT SAFE' LONG LIVE THE ENTERTAINERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Have a look at how much we have spent compared to the likes of Bolton and I would suggest that goes someway to explaining how. I don't know anything about the player tbh but Allardyce doesnt often sign poor players. Why is any player allowed to leave a club? Sol Campbell left Arsenal on a free is he shit like? Allardyce and Bolton clearly have had a plan although im sure you will still claim they didn't it all just fell into place out of luck and the fact they couldn't splash out vast sums. He has also signed a 20 year old defensive midfielder who is captain for his club but im sure he just got lucky this player became available and the lad is probably shit anyway. Listen Jon, stop mentioning Bolton and Allardyce together, because the "plan" you harp on about isn't Boltons "plan", its Allardyces' judgement. When Allardyce goes, will Boltons "plan" continue to put them where they are now ? Unlikely. Think about it. Every club appoints a manager on a contract for 2, 3, 4, or 5 years who exercises his judgement, coaching and playing strategy and ideas. Some of them have good judgement but in terms of winning trophies, qualifying for europe, gaining promotion from the lower leagues, the vast majority of them don't. If you really want to call it a "plan", then they ALL have their "plan", but only a handful of them have a good "plan". The "plan" doesn't guarantee success, it is down to the ability of the manager. I really can't explain this any more. If you can't see the difference ....... Listen leazes, You are sooo boring its unreal Some clubs appoint the right manager some clubs appoint someone who is clearly the wrong manager and then go for the easy option, which one are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Bolton are scum cancer football NEVER EVER WILL THE TOON 'PLAY IT SAFE' LONG LIVE THE ENTERTAINERS Unfortunately I think they died a while ago now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted February 9, 2007 Author Share Posted February 9, 2007 It looks like Bolton have already made a summer-signing of a centre-half, now that's planning well, if he's crap, it isn't really is it You could also say, 91 clubs aren't "planning" Well I never, it looks like I built a soap-box for Leazes Mag to climb upon and start to spout off again with his nonsensical orations. Gerald Cid is 23 years old and plays for Bordeaux in the French Ligue 1, and they are in 9th. place so perhaps Sam might turn out to be better planner for the future than Glen is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinofbeans 91 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 comparing us to bolton is a strange one. they are a smaller club than us who have a lot of things we don't 1 a supportive and rational chaiman 2 a manager who knows exactly what he wants in terms of the way his team play, and who has organised a decent scouting network to trawl in some very talented players. and gets them to play for the team. 3 players that want to play for the team. i for one think they have some fantastic players, nolan and davies were rejected by a number of clubs for examle but both have grown into decent players. tal ben haim is one of the best cetre backs in the premiership etc etc... now if we had their infrastructure i could see us sitting permanently in the top 5 (comparatively with us being the 5th (© leazesmag) best club in the premiership. that would be no mean feat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 comparing us to bolton is a strange one. they are a smaller club than us who have a lot of things we don't 1 a supportive and rational chaiman 2 a manager who knows exactly what he wants in terms of the way his team play, and who has organised a decent scouting network to trawl in some very talented players. and gets them to play for the team. 3 players that want to play for the team. i for one think they have some fantastic players, nolan and davies were rejected by a number of clubs for examle but both have grown into decent players. tal ben haim is one of the best cetre backs in the premiership etc etc... now if we had their infrastructure i could see us sitting permanently in the top 5 (comparatively with us being the 5th (© leazesmag) best club in the premiership. that would be no mean feat. 1. still a self agrandising bigmouth like ours 2. a network that consists of his greasy handed son 3. do they go for Bolton, or for the wages? And what infrastructure? I doubt their facilities compare to ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31229 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 And what infrastructure? I doubt their facilities compare to ours Light years ahead of us in terms of back room methods and sports science tbh, its not luck that they can prolong the careers of the 30+ brigade whereas we struggle to keep half of our squad fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 And what infrastructure? I doubt their facilities compare to ours Light years ahead of us in terms of back room methods and sports science tbh, its not luck that they can prolong the careers of the 30+ brigade whereas we struggle to keep half of our squad fit. most of that is down to the club personel not physical facilities which we have in a bundance we won't get that right until we stop rotating the staff every 2 or 3 seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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