Papa Lazaru 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 And i admit thats how i think. Theres nothing about dance music i don't get because theres nothing you couldn't understand about it, i just don't get how a sane, sober person not on drugs can enjoy listening to it. 22068[/snapback] Because people like it= a matter of taste. I am sane, sober (usually) and have a fairly sizeable pile of CDs (such as the aforementioned Chemical Brothers, Daft Punk, Prodigy, Fatboy Slim's earlier albums, Air and a good few Ministry of Sound albums before they started filling them with every chart release they could find). I also have about 100-150 12" house released, some on the prog side of that genre, but mainly French and funk-inspired house. I'm also a fan of the soul styles and hammond-and-bass-driven funk that proved as an inspiration for the earliest forms of house and remained close every since. Now, you've met me enough to know I am not a pill-popping 'propa radgie'. So unless I am, your supposition must be incorrect. 22071[/snapback] Thats what i actually mean, you're not the first intelligent, sane, sober person who i've met that listens to this stuff. I don't mean there isn't any sane people listening to it, the thing i don't get is why there is! Its like somebody intelligent who seems to have a good taste in/knowledge of various things turn and tell you they love waching Eastenders or something, it just doesn't fit with the impression you had of them. Obviously its because of quite how much i despise this music that i am usually shocked that people like it when i think they wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 172 Posted August 29, 2005 Author Share Posted August 29, 2005 Now watching the MTV awards, its all R&B and bling bling rap shite, Usher, Diddy, Pharrell Williams, Alisha Keyes what a complete pile fucking Dung ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Hmm. I'm not even sure what we're debating anymore. Something to do with you being wrong, I think.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Hmm. I'm not even sure what we're debating anymore. Something to do with you being wrong, I think.... 22080[/snapback] So close, defintiely somebody wrong here! As with all music debtaes it ends quite rightly with everyone still loving what they love and hating what they hate as it ever shall be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I'd just like to add that 'Moon Safari' by Air is probably my top album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I'd say I like a bit of everything, but Drum 'n' Bass? WTF is all that about then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I'd say I like a bit of everything, but Drum 'n' Bass? WTF is all that about then? 22093[/snapback] Drum and Bass is a funny one. I can listen to it and really enjoy it, but after about 20 minutes I can't take any more and have to put something else on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Trance. It isn't music. The shit Giles Peterson plays on Radio 1. It's just noise, not music at all, why do they waste airspace with it? Drum&Bass. More noise that isn't pleasant to hear, just tripe. I also can't understand how some bands who clearly can't sing are liked by so many people. Libertines, Razorlight (someone get him some lemsip), The Thrills, Ash etc. All these remixes of old songs by various DJ's who you never hear of again really piss me off. That Sunset Strippers song...why subject me to it? Finally what the hell is wrong with the song from the citroen ad? WHAT THE FUCK IS IT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInspiration 1 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Pretty much all those indie bands, or "garage rock" are dull, overrated, unoriginal crap. There's so much more interesting music - why settle for mediocrity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3342 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 (edited) Nirvana Pearl Jam do it TEN times better 21702[/snapback] Chops what are you talking about???? Pearl Jam, the original Pop Stars grunge band! I remember at the time this article on how they were going to be so great because some A&R guy had assembled them from all these musicans that they auditioned and thinking nooooooooooooooooooooooo. And now for music I can't understand... Any sort of Dance - How can people 'listen' to this. I mean I can understand dancing to it when you're in a club but listen to it? 21828[/snapback] Goes for me too. If people are on a night out in a club and either pissed or off their heads on drugs i'm sure there is some appeal/purpose to dance music. But i cannot ever understand how anybody could listen at home to that stuff when stone cold sober! And i'm well aware that "dance" is a term that covers a whole range of sub genres which are often nothing like each other, but i find them all shite, just to varying degrees of how offensively bad they are. Whats worse is how little talent some of it requires, press a few buttons, repeat stuff a load of others have doen in that genre begore and write lyrics a 5 year old could manage. And for the ones often in the charts theres always the option of taking an old/older song and ruining it by turning it into a shitty dance track. 21848[/snapback] If you're chucking the likes of The Chemical Brothers and Daft Punk into that press a few buttons and 5 year olds lyrics you're totally ignorant tbh. 21891[/snapback] And this coming from someone that thinks Sigur Ros is "Pretentious bollocks." Jazz too. Bunch of arseholes playing random notes for half an hour at a time I thought. But Benny Goodman and Jimmy Smith are great. Still can't see why people like Miles Davis though. 21901[/snapback] WTF? If you've only heard his later "electro" recordings fair enough but get yourself a copy of A Kind of Blue and while you're at it buy Juju by Wayne Shorter, Empyrean Isles by Herbie Hancock and Strings by Charlie Parker and then you may get it. Pretty much all those indie bands, or "garage rock" are dull, overrated, unoriginal crap. There's so much more interesting music - why settle for mediocrity? 22179[/snapback] Ok it is all about personal opinion but this is the most pro Bob Seger load of rubbish I've had to read here today! Garage rock dates back to the 60s and includes bands like the Turtles, 13th floor elevators, The electric prunes! Are they the bands you are talking about? No didn't think so! If you enjoy your Gloria Estefan or Mariah Carey collection great but as for your question "why settle for mediocrity? Well you listen to Metallica and we read your posts and we all suppor the toon! Says it all really. Edited August 30, 2005 by sammynb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 And i admit thats how i think. Theres nothing about dance music i don't get because theres nothing you couldn't understand about it, i just don't get how a sane, sober person not on drugs can enjoy listening to it. 22068[/snapback] Because people like it= a matter of taste. I am sane, sober (usually) and have a fairly sizeable pile of CDs (such as the aforementioned Chemical Brothers, Daft Punk, Prodigy, Fatboy Slim's earlier albums, Air and a good few Ministry of Sound albums before they started filling them with every chart release they could find). I also have about 100-150 12" house released, some on the prog side of that genre, but mainly French and funk-inspired house. I'm also a fan of the soul styles and hammond-and-bass-driven funk that proved as an inspiration for the earliest forms of house and remained close every since. Now, you've met me enough to know I am not a pill-popping 'propa radgie'. So unless I am, your supposition must be incorrect. 22071[/snapback] Thats what i actually mean, you're not the first intelligent, sane, sober person who i've met that listens to this stuff. I don't mean there isn't any sane people listening to it, the thing i don't get is why there is! Its like somebody intelligent who seems to have a good taste in/knowledge of various things turn and tell you they love waching Eastenders or something, it just doesn't fit with the impression you had of them. Obviously its because of quite how much i despise this music that i am usually shocked that people like it when i think they wouldn't. 22074[/snapback] I don't think anyone musically intelligent can say that Kraftwerk, Bjork, Massive Attack and New Order are shit. I think you'd have to be completely ignorant. Shit Dance is far more widespread than shit Rock. But I think good dance is far more difficult to produce than good rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3342 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Don't forget Caberet Voltaire, Brian Eno, Depeche Mode and Flock of Seagulls. Why do people confuse electronic with dance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Don't forget Caberet Voltaire, Brian Eno, Depeche Mode and Flock of Seagulls. Why do people confuse electronic with dance? 22240[/snapback] Because Papa was saying that anything produced on a computer can't be as good as anything produced with a chunk of wood or metal that's strummed, blown or bashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3342 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 (edited) So I wonder where Papa sits regarding Einstürzende Neubauten? Edited August 30, 2005 by sammynb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Nirvana Pearl Jam do it TEN times better 21702[/snapback] All about taste really, can't stand Pearl Jam, love Nirvana. 21711[/snapback] To be fair, Nirvana have never been the same since Kurt Cobain left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3342 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Nirvana Pearl Jam do it TEN times better 21702[/snapback] All about taste really, can't stand Pearl Jam, love Nirvana. 21711[/snapback] To be fair, Nirvana have never been the same since Kurt Cobain left. 22269[/snapback] No but the Foo Fighters have developed a lot better without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 The funny thing is, Nirvana are nowt like Pearl Jam. They only get compared because they are both from Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I don't understand the appeal of the Kaiser Chiefs. Take 'I predict a riot', I like it until the chorus kicks in...it's so out of place and completely ruins what is otherwise a great song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Don't forget Caberet Voltaire, Brian Eno, Depeche Mode and Flock of Seagulls. Why do people confuse electronic with dance? 22240[/snapback] Because Papa was saying that anything produced on a computer can't be as good as anything produced with a chunk of wood or metal that's strummed, blown or bashed. 22243[/snapback] Well you've condensed it down, but yes, i tend not to like music produced on a computer more than that produced on a guitar. But as mentioned in the first post by sammynb, i'd seperated dance from other electronic music myself as some of those people mentioned do more than just use computers! And: I don't think anyone musically intelligent can say that Kraftwerk, Bjork, Massive Attack and New Order are shit. I think you'd have to be completely ignorant. Shit Dance is far more widespread than shit Rock. But I think good dance is far more difficult to produce than good rock I never said any of those bands are shit, New Order certainly aren't, they are however musicians who play instruments as well. The other three i wouldn't listen to as i don't like their music, but as of yet i haven't heard enough Kraftwerk or Massive attack to pass judgement and Bjork whilst i wouldn't listen to her music if i was paid, isn't what i'd call shite at all. We'll just have to disagreethat good dance is harder to create than good rock. Anyway as with all music arguments its all opinion on whether something is shite or not and i will quite happilly go on saying dance music is shite (and only to be tolertated when off your tits on drugs or alcohol) as it would be dull if we all agreed on the subject! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sima Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Sigur Ros is bollocks tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 The Streets - bloody awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 The Streets - bloody awful 22727[/snapback] Now that is "music" that every single person should be united in saying its absolute shite. Lyrics a child could write, can't rap at all, can't sing, uses an annoying cockney accent despite not being a cockney and yet has some critics wanking over him as if he's a combination of eminem and shakespeare!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 The Streets - bloody awful 22727[/snapback] Now that is "music" that every single person should be united in saying its absolute shite. Lyrics a child could write, can't rap at all, can't sing, uses an annoying cockney accent despite not being a cockney and yet has some critics wanking over him as if he's a combination of eminem and shakespeare!!! 22758[/snapback] I think the fact he comes from Brum, yet comes over all 'apples and pears' is the most annoying thing about him. By no means the only annoying thing, obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 The Streets - bloody awful 22727[/snapback] Now that is "music" that every single person should be united in saying its absolute shite. Lyrics a child could write, can't rap at all, can't sing, uses an annoying cockney accent despite not being a cockney and yet has some critics wanking over him as if he's a combination of eminem and shakespeare!!! 22758[/snapback] I think the fact he comes from Brum, yet comes over all 'apples and pears' is the most annoying thing about him. By no means the only annoying thing, obviously 22763[/snapback] Yeah, if somebody happens to have an annoying cockney accent by birth thats not their fault, to choose to put one on because you think it makes you sound hard, trendy and will sell more records is embarassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckypierre 0 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 finally someone else who hates the streets. Middles class lad trying to be all urban, middle class journalists toss off over him and students buy it in droves (I blame NME meself), 1 year later the mainstream buy into it because he's the hottest new thing. He cant rap papa because he isnt a rapper he's a street poet or something.. pfffff Im into allsorts and Ive got plenty of what you'd describe as dance music but Ive never ever understood why anyone would listen to that happ hardcore, gabba banging crap. Its just awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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