Tottingham Hotspur

[Shearergol 0]

Leazesmag in "not answering a single question put to him" shocker

[Super_Steve_Howey 0]

He's not like.

 

He was my ally against you and alex in those days on NO.

 

I don't remember being against you on NO tbh, but that's hardly a fair contest is it. And I'm implying you're fucked, before you try any funny business.

 

You told Stevie to back down because I was much better at it. This was after you and alex GANGED UP to ridicule my notion of building myself a cottage/tower in the woods.

 

getting this thread back off topic...

 

let's talk about gang rape and cottaging

 

much preferable to LM and his pre-1992 obsession

[LeazesMag 0]

So what did Keegan have going for him that would justify him being a good Director of Football then Leazes?

 

You can answer my other questions too if you can.

 

I have no idea. Ask the chairman of Fulham, who had his "plan", and being better than Fred, as everybody is better than Fred, he obviously had a good "plan" guaranteed to lead them all the way to the premiership title, as all "plans" do.

 

I would prefer to call the chief scout, the chief scout, personally.

 

And - any manager worth his salt, wouldn't allow a "director of football" to tell him who to buy and sell.

 

Your comment about Keegan "winning nothing" has completely showed your lack of credibility, and understanding and knowledge of this club pre-1992. Which means you cannot exercise a judgement on the merits of the job that has been done at the club since then. But I had guessed that long ago.

 

Who said every chairman is better than Fred? Can you provide a link to back up such claims or are you making stuff up again to suit your argument?

 

I'm grateful for what Keegan done but it doesn't take away from the fact that he searched for a short term solution using £££ without looking to improve the club long term, the lack of foresight probably explains why he was a flop everywhere else. Take your rose tinted glasses off.

 

You've also contradicted yourself by saying any manager worth his salt, wouldn't allow a "director of football" to tell him who to buy and sell, only to go on about how great a manager Wenger is even though he uses this same method.

 

BTW you still haven't answered my questions.

 

If you were chairman would you back the manager with £10 million to sign a player who the club hasn't scouted but your managers mate said he was good?

 

How do you think the club will clear the debts of £80 million and still try and be the 5th best club over the next decade?

 

What does Keegan know about being a DOF? Has he ever acted as a scout in the past?

 

you get funnier.

 

Fulham pissed promotion after Keegan took over. They pissed promotion again with him in charge. They are where they are now because he laid the platform. As at Man City, who he got back up.

 

flop

 

You show - again - your lack of appreciation, just like you do of Newcastle United pre-1992. I am pleased you think the position we were in at the time he became manager called for long term solutions ie standing with one foot in the 3rd division. Fantastically funny. I am happy for you that you watched that team during those 5 years and worried about the future

 

BTW, he had a pretty good buying record at Newcastle. The best in all my time supporting the club in fact. Do you think Robson, Souness, Gullit and Dalglish spent money better than he did ?????

 

Hey, but keep making things up.

 

I doubt very much that Wenger brings any player into Arsenal for money without looking at him first himself. And - he would appoint his own scouts himself.

 

A good few people think replacing Fred with anybody would be an improvement, as you well know.

 

Keegan is classed as a flop at Man City similar to how Souness is at Blackburn, both won promotion but in the end both jumped before they were pushed. I don't see winning the second division as anything to shout about either with the money he was spending, he broke the second division transfer record to sign Coleman iirc, saying that I was wrong to call him a flop in that time.

 

I noticed you didn't mention his time as England boss...

 

Keegan made better buys than the rest although I'm not sure what point you're trying to make there, perhaps you're trying to get off the topic at hand and turn it into a Keegan debate because you know you're wrong about the original debate.

 

Wenger does have the final say on transfers, as does all managers with a DOF, they just bring certain players to the managers attention and scout the thoroughly.

 

Can I have a link to where someone said anyone is better than Fred? We all know you like to make stuff up to back your argument up.

 

You still haven't answered my questions, I take it you can't answer them without putting fat Freddie in a bad light.

 

What do you usually say on N-O? Online and not answering my questions. PATHETIC!

 

1. Who has succeeded as England boss since Sir Alf Ramsey, and to a lesser extent Bobby Robson ? Is the England boss limited by his players, yes or no ?

 

2. Not one person on this board, especially those dimwits who say Fred out and have NO IDEA who would replace the board, has suggested guaranteed superior replacements ie those who would do better than being the 5th best in the country over a span of a decade. So, set the ball rolling.

 

3. Every club, or most clubs, have a debt. If you think the club should clear the debt before buying players, which could take about 8 years, say so. But don't complain if the club don't buy players like Miguel. But I'm sure you will anyway. You could also state that if you didnt' want the club to get into debt, they should not have improved the stadium, in which case I'm equally sure in the event of that, you would then slate the club for not forming a "business plan". You are so daft you can't even see your own hypocrisy.

 

4. Are you saying, by your comments about Wengers scouts, that scouts - before they were called "directors of football" didn't scout thoroughly ? Laughable And thanks for confirming that "directors of football" are nothing other than scouts and indeed, as I've always said, the manager is the only man that counts.

 

5. You said or inferred Keegan didn't buy well, ask yourself how my statement that he bought better than all the others isn't relevant to that.

 

6. Once again, your shrugging off of the job Keegan has done at those clubs, not just Newcastle, shows that your judgement is flawed, being that you are unable to see the progress he made at all those clubs.

 

But I had guessed that long ago.

 

I am waiting for you to put up names of replacement directors who would guarantee to do better than qualifying regularly for the UEFA Cup and moving up from that to matching the top 4 clubs. The others can then debate their merits accordingly.

Edited February 6, 2007 by LeazesMag

[LeazesMag 0]

Keegan nearly bankrupted Man City with his ludicrous spending tbh

 

joke comment by a joke with no idea of how much this club owes him. Symptom of the modern clueless fan NUFC fan, as stevie says.

[Zathras 296]

Keegan nearly bankrupted Man City with his ludicrous spending tbh

 

joke comment by a joke with no idea of how much this club owes him. Symptom of the modern clueless fan NUFC fan, as stevie says.

 

How the fuck is that relevant?

[Baggio 0]

So what did Keegan have going for him that would justify him being a good Director of Football then Leazes?

 

You can answer my other questions too if you can.

 

I have no idea. Ask the chairman of Fulham, who had his "plan", and being better than Fred, as everybody is better than Fred, he obviously had a good "plan" guaranteed to lead them all the way to the premiership title, as all "plans" do.

 

I would prefer to call the chief scout, the chief scout, personally.

 

And - any manager worth his salt, wouldn't allow a "director of football" to tell him who to buy and sell.

 

Your comment about Keegan "winning nothing" has completely showed your lack of credibility, and understanding and knowledge of this club pre-1992. Which means you cannot exercise a judgement on the merits of the job that has been done at the club since then. But I had guessed that long ago.

 

Who said every chairman is better than Fred? Can you provide a link to back up such claims or are you making stuff up again to suit your argument?

 

I'm grateful for what Keegan done but it doesn't take away from the fact that he searched for a short term solution using £££ without looking to improve the club long term, the lack of foresight probably explains why he was a flop everywhere else. Take your rose tinted glasses off.

 

You've also contradicted yourself by saying any manager worth his salt, wouldn't allow a "director of football" to tell him who to buy and sell, only to go on about how great a manager Wenger is even though he uses this same method.

 

BTW you still haven't answered my questions.

 

If you were chairman would you back the manager with £10 million to sign a player who the club hasn't scouted but your managers mate said he was good?

 

How do you think the club will clear the debts of £80 million and still try and be the 5th best club over the next decade?

 

What does Keegan know about being a DOF? Has he ever acted as a scout in the past?

 

you get funnier.

 

Fulham pissed promotion after Keegan took over. They pissed promotion again with him in charge. They are where they are now because he laid the platform. As at Man City, who he got back up.

 

flop

 

You show - again - your lack of appreciation, just like you do of Newcastle United pre-1992. I am pleased you think the position we were in at the time he became manager called for long term solutions ie standing with one foot in the 3rd division. Fantastically funny. I am happy for you that you watched that team during those 5 years and worried about the future

 

BTW, he had a pretty good buying record at Newcastle. The best in all my time supporting the club in fact. Do you think Robson, Souness, Gullit and Dalglish spent money better than he did ?????

 

Hey, but keep making things up.

 

I doubt very much that Wenger brings any player into Arsenal for money without looking at him first himself. And - he would appoint his own scouts himself.

 

A good few people think replacing Fred with anybody would be an improvement, as you well know.

 

Keegan is classed as a flop at Man City similar to how Souness is at Blackburn, both won promotion but in the end both jumped before they were pushed. I don't see winning the second division as anything to shout about either with the money he was spending, he broke the second division transfer record to sign Coleman iirc, saying that I was wrong to call him a flop in that time.

 

I noticed you didn't mention his time as England boss...

 

Keegan made better buys than the rest although I'm not sure what point you're trying to make there, perhaps you're trying to get off the topic at hand and turn it into a Keegan debate because you know you're wrong about the original debate.

 

Wenger does have the final say on transfers, as does all managers with a DOF, they just bring certain players to the managers attention and scout the thoroughly.

 

Can I have a link to where someone said anyone is better than Fred? We all know you like to make stuff up to back your argument up.

 

You still haven't answered my questions, I take it you can't answer them without putting fat Freddie in a bad light.

 

What do you usually say on N-O? Online and not answering my questions. PATHETIC!

 

1. Who has succeeded as England boss since Sir Alf Ramsey, and to a lesser extent Bobby Robson ? Is the England boss limited by his players, yes or no ?

 

2. Not one person on this board, especially those dimwits who say Fred out and have NO IDEA who would replace the board, has suggested guaranteed superior replacements ie those who would do better than being the 5th best in the country over a span of a decade. So, set the ball rolling.

 

3. Every club, or most clubs, have a debt. If you think the club should clear the debt before buying players, which could take about 8 years, say so. But don't complain if the club don't buy players like Miguel. But I'm sure you will anyway.

 

4. Are you saying, by your comments about Wengers scouts, that scouts - before they were called "directors of football" didn't scout thoroughly ? Laughable And thanks for confirming that "directors of football" are nothing other than scouts and indeed, as I've always said, the manager is the only man that counts.

 

5. You said or inferred Keegan didn't buy well, ask yourself how my statement that he bought better than all the others isn't relevant to that.

 

6. Once again, your shrugging off of the job Keegan has done at those clubs, not just Newcastle, shows that your judgement is flawed, being that you are unable to see the progress he made at all those clubs.

 

But I had guessed that long ago.

 

I am waiting for you to put up names of replacement directors who would guarantee to do better than qualifying regularly for the UEFA Cup and moving up from that to matching the top 4 clubs. The others can then debate their merits accordingly.

 

1. So by that statement you're saying you can only really judge success on what you win? Keegan was a laughing stock at the end of his time as England boss, as for being limited by his players? he had a selection of players that nearly every other national team boss would envy.

 

2. No idea what you're on about, could you name Glazer before he took over Man Utd, Abramovich at Chelsea etc.?

 

3. You haven't answered the question, how do you see the club clearing £80 million of debt when they continue to make a loss every year? Don't you think it is reckless by the club allowing such debts to mount on signing players?

 

4. Director of Football have always been scouts who not only scout possible first team players but youth team players too, they also oversee every other are of the football side of the club apart from first team training and selection, it takes alot of pressure off the manager with an example being Roeder ringing around trying to get anyone in on loan without really having a clue who is available.

 

For someone who is so against a DOF I would have thought that you would know what their job actually involves.

 

5. Where did I say Keegan didn't buy well or have you made something up AGAIN?

 

6. Keegan was a flop at Man City and as Sima said he nearly bankrupt them, he didn't do any different from Souness at Blackburn except Souness actually won a trophy, if you think he made such an improvement then why were you so against Souness taking over here considering he made the exact same improvement at his previos club?

[LeazesMag 0]

So what did Keegan have going for him that would justify him being a good Director of Football then Leazes?

 

You can answer my other questions too if you can.

 

I have no idea. Ask the chairman of Fulham, who had his "plan", and being better than Fred, as everybody is better than Fred, he obviously had a good "plan" guaranteed to lead them all the way to the premiership title, as all "plans" do.

 

I would prefer to call the chief scout, the chief scout, personally.

 

And - any manager worth his salt, wouldn't allow a "director of football" to tell him who to buy and sell.

 

Your comment about Keegan "winning nothing" has completely showed your lack of credibility, and understanding and knowledge of this club pre-1992. Which means you cannot exercise a judgement on the merits of the job that has been done at the club since then. But I had guessed that long ago.

 

Who said every chairman is better than Fred? Can you provide a link to back up such claims or are you making stuff up again to suit your argument?

 

I'm grateful for what Keegan done but it doesn't take away from the fact that he searched for a short term solution using £££ without looking to improve the club long term, the lack of foresight probably explains why he was a flop everywhere else. Take your rose tinted glasses off.

 

You've also contradicted yourself by saying any manager worth his salt, wouldn't allow a "director of football" to tell him who to buy and sell, only to go on about how great a manager Wenger is even though he uses this same method.

 

BTW you still haven't answered my questions.

 

If you were chairman would you back the manager with £10 million to sign a player who the club hasn't scouted but your managers mate said he was good?

 

How do you think the club will clear the debts of £80 million and still try and be the 5th best club over the next decade?

 

What does Keegan know about being a DOF? Has he ever acted as a scout in the past?

 

you get funnier.

 

Fulham pissed promotion after Keegan took over. They pissed promotion again with him in charge. They are where they are now because he laid the platform. As at Man City, who he got back up.

 

flop

 

You show - again - your lack of appreciation, just like you do of Newcastle United pre-1992. I am pleased you think the position we were in at the time he became manager called for long term solutions ie standing with one foot in the 3rd division. Fantastically funny. I am happy for you that you watched that team during those 5 years and worried about the future

 

BTW, he had a pretty good buying record at Newcastle. The best in all my time supporting the club in fact. Do you think Robson, Souness, Gullit and Dalglish spent money better than he did ?????

 

Hey, but keep making things up.

 

I doubt very much that Wenger brings any player into Arsenal for money without looking at him first himself. And - he would appoint his own scouts himself.

 

A good few people think replacing Fred with anybody would be an improvement, as you well know.

 

Keegan is classed as a flop at Man City similar to how Souness is at Blackburn, both won promotion but in the end both jumped before they were pushed. I don't see winning the second division as anything to shout about either with the money he was spending, he broke the second division transfer record to sign Coleman iirc, saying that I was wrong to call him a flop in that time.

 

I noticed you didn't mention his time as England boss...

 

Keegan made better buys than the rest although I'm not sure what point you're trying to make there, perhaps you're trying to get off the topic at hand and turn it into a Keegan debate because you know you're wrong about the original debate.

 

Wenger does have the final say on transfers, as does all managers with a DOF, they just bring certain players to the managers attention and scout the thoroughly.

 

Can I have a link to where someone said anyone is better than Fred? We all know you like to make stuff up to back your argument up.

 

You still haven't answered my questions, I take it you can't answer them without putting fat Freddie in a bad light.

 

What do you usually say on N-O? Online and not answering my questions. PATHETIC!

 

1. Who has succeeded as England boss since Sir Alf Ramsey, and to a lesser extent Bobby Robson ? Is the England boss limited by his players, yes or no ?

 

2. Not one person on this board, especially those dimwits who say Fred out and have NO IDEA who would replace the board, has suggested guaranteed superior replacements ie those who would do better than being the 5th best in the country over a span of a decade. So, set the ball rolling.

 

3. Every club, or most clubs, have a debt. If you think the club should clear the debt before buying players, which could take about 8 years, say so. But don't complain if the club don't buy players like Miguel. But I'm sure you will anyway.

 

4. Are you saying, by your comments about Wengers scouts, that scouts - before they were called "directors of football" didn't scout thoroughly ? Laughable And thanks for confirming that "directors of football" are nothing other than scouts and indeed, as I've always said, the manager is the only man that counts.

 

5. You said or inferred Keegan didn't buy well, ask yourself how my statement that he bought better than all the others isn't relevant to that.

 

6. Once again, your shrugging off of the job Keegan has done at those clubs, not just Newcastle, shows that your judgement is flawed, being that you are unable to see the progress he made at all those clubs.

 

But I had guessed that long ago.

 

I am waiting for you to put up names of replacement directors who would guarantee to do better than qualifying regularly for the UEFA Cup and moving up from that to matching the top 4 clubs. The others can then debate their merits accordingly.

 

1. So by that statement you're saying you can only really judge success on what you win? Keegan was a laughing stock at the end of his time as England boss, as for being limited by his players? he had a selection of players that nearly every other national team boss would envy.

 

2. No idea what you're on about, could you name Glazer before he took over Man Utd, Abramovich at Chelsea etc.?

 

3. You haven't answered the question, how do you see the club clearing £80 million of debt when they continue to make a loss every year? Don't you think it is reckless by the club allowing such debts to mount on signing players?

 

4. Director of Football have always been scouts who not only scout possible first team players but youth team players too, they also oversee every other are of the football side of the club apart from first team training and selection, it takes alot of pressure off the manager with an example being Roeder ringing around trying to get anyone in on loan without really having a clue who is available.

 

For someone who is so against a DOF I would have thought that you would know what their job actually involves.

 

5. Where did I say Keegan didn't buy well or have you made something up AGAIN?

 

6. Keegan was a flop at Man City and as Sima said he nearly bankrupt them, he didn't do any different from Souness at Blackburn except Souness actually won a trophy, if you think he made such an improvement then why were you so against Souness taking over here considering he made the exact same improvement at his previos club?

 

 

all the highlighted bits are bollocks, made up ie Roeder, and have been answered before ie the 80m quid - show me where I have said the club should continue to recklessly buy players, like danthebrain and at least half this message board do

 

as sniffer said .......

Edited February 6, 2007 by LeazesMag

[Gemmill 46992]

I just like to annoy him cos he has a real dislike of me.

 

You exist but don't annoy me enough to have a real dislike of you. There are many people who are pricks, who aren't important enough to hate.

 

My point stands.

 

FUCKUN GRRRRRRRR AM FUCKIN PISSED AN THAT FUCKIN EVERYONE'S A TWAT SPECIALLY SCOUSERS AND SPURS FANS FUGGIN COCKNEY WANKS MAN FUCKIN.

 

HHHHNNNNNGGGGGGGHHHHHHRRRRRRR!111

 

Or something like that.

[Baggio 0]

So all the bits highlighted are bollocks are they?

 

he had a selection of players that nearly every other national team boss would envy.

 

So you don't think England had a very good selection of players and that other International managers looked at our squad with envy?

 

David Seaman

Gary Neville

Philip Neville

Sol Campbell

Martin Keown

David Beckham

Paul Scholes

Alan Shearer

Michael Owen

Steve McManaman

Gareth Southgate

Nigel Martyn

Paul Ince

Gareth Barry

Steven Gerrard

Dennis Wise

Nick Barmby

Emile Heskey

Kevin Phillips

Robbie Fowler

Richard Wright

 

Excellent squad yet Keegan couldn't even get them past the group stage of Euro 2000, he soon quit not long after when we got turned over by the Germans at Wembley.

 

No idea what you're on about, could you name Glazer before he took over Man Utd, Abramovich at Chelsea etc.?

 

Are you saying that you knew of Glazer and Abramovich before they took over at Man Utd and Chelsea?

 

Don't you think it is reckless by the club allowing such debts to mount on signing players?

 

This is a question I asked you, I didn't say you've said it previously.

 

Roeder ringing around trying to get anyone in on loan without really having a clue who is available.

 

"As hard as I tried today I couldn't make a breakthrough," said Roeder.

 

"I think it's a terrible time to have a transfer window.

 

"I've got to manage a football club and prepare a team for a game but I've been working from 8am this morning trying to get players in.

 

"And on the final day it's not just about getting a body in, it has got to be somebody who is fit to wear a Newcastle shirt and they are in short supply at this stage."

 

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=4...er+slams+window

 

 

6. Keegan was a flop at Man City

 

Keegan nearly made the club bankrupt and jumped before he was pushed, if it wasn't his fault for the clubs finances then who's fault was it?

 

if you think he made such an improvement then why were you so against Souness taking over here considering he made the exact same improvement at his previous club?

 

So are you saying you were for Souness' appointment or are you saying Keegan made a bigger improvement to Man City than Souness did to Blackburn? If so, how?

 

as sniffer said .......

 

"Shows the difference in mentality between a proper club and the Toon"

 

http://www.toontastic.net/forum/index.php?...11747&st=54

 

 

On top of that you STILL haven't answered my questions with this being the SIXTH request.

 

If you were chairman would you back the manager with £10 million to sign a player who the club hasn't scouted but your managers mate said he was good?

 

How do you think the club will clear the debts of £80 million and still try and be the 5th best club over the next decade?

 

Six requests? PATHETIC!

[Guest alex]

I totally respect KK for what he did here and love him for it. I also hate him for walking out on us (if that makes sense). I think he was unlucky to win bugger all in his time here but I'm not blind to his limitations either. He's only any good when he's got plenty money and he did only look at the short-term picture imo.

[Guest stevieintoon]

FUCKUN GRRRRRRRR AM FUCKIN PISSED AN THAT FUCKIN EVERYONE'S A TWAT SPECIALLY SCOUSERS AND SPURS FANS FUGGIN COCKNEY WANKS MAN FUCKIN.

 

HHHHNNNNNGGGGGGGHHHHHHRRRRRRR!111

 

Or something like that.

 

Some reasonable points there, but may I just point out that it would be wrong to point out that all Tottenham Hotspur supporters are as you put it, "cockneys", as the word describes people from a small pocket of East London, who in the majority of cases support World Cup Winners, West Ham United.

 

The traditional cockney neighbourhoods of the East End are Bethnal Green, Whitechapel, Spitalfields, Stepney, Wapping, Limehouse, Poplar, Millwall, Shoreditch, Bow and Mile End.

[LeazesMag 0]

So all the bits highlighted are bollocks are they?

 

he had a selection of players that nearly every other national team boss would envy.

 

So you don't think England had a very good selection of players and that other International managers looked at our squad with envy?

 

David Seaman

Gary Neville

Philip Neville

Sol Campbell

Martin Keown

David Beckham

Paul Scholes

Alan Shearer

Michael Owen

Steve McManaman

Gareth Southgate

Nigel Martyn

Paul Ince

Gareth Barry

Steven Gerrard

Dennis Wise

Nick Barmby

Emile Heskey

Kevin Phillips

Robbie Fowler

Richard Wright

 

Excellent squad yet Keegan couldn't even get them past the group stage of Euro 2000, he soon quit not long after when we got turned over by the Germans at Wembley.

 

No idea what you're on about, could you name Glazer before he took over Man Utd, Abramovich at Chelsea etc.?

 

Are you saying that you knew of Glazer and Abramovich before they took over at Man Utd and Chelsea?

 

Don't you think it is reckless by the club allowing such debts to mount on signing players?

 

This is a question I asked you, I didn't say you've said it previously.

 

Roeder ringing around trying to get anyone in on loan without really having a clue who is available.

 

"As hard as I tried today I couldn't make a breakthrough," said Roeder.

 

"I think it's a terrible time to have a transfer window.

 

"I've got to manage a football club and prepare a team for a game but I've been working from 8am this morning trying to get players in.

 

"And on the final day it's not just about getting a body in, it has got to be somebody who is fit to wear a Newcastle shirt and they are in short supply at this stage."

 

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=4...er+slams+window

 

 

6. Keegan was a flop at Man City

 

Keegan nearly made the club bankrupt and jumped before he was pushed, if it wasn't his fault for the clubs finances then who's fault was it?

 

if you think he made such an improvement then why were you so against Souness taking over here considering he made the exact same improvement at his previous club?

 

So are you saying you were for Souness' appointment or are you saying Keegan made a bigger improvement to Man City than Souness did to Blackburn? If so, how?

 

as sniffer said .......

 

"Shows the difference in mentality between a proper club and the Toon"

 

http://www.toontastic.net/forum/index.php?...11747&st=54

 

 

On top of that you STILL haven't answered my questions with this being the SIXTH request.

 

If you were chairman would you back the manager with £10 million to sign a player who the club hasn't scouted but your managers mate said he was good?

 

How do you think the club will clear the debts of £80 million and still try and be the 5th best club over the next decade?

 

Six requests? PATHETIC!

 

That is not a particulary good England squad. The current one is better, and so was the 1990 one. Hoddle did better than Keegan, or didn't he ............ [be careful and check the facts if you choose to answer this]

 

I have answered all your points.

 

How will Arsenal clear a bigger debt than us ? As you continue to not accept that all clubs have debt, such is the modern game. Our is mainly due to the stadium expansion. Would you prefer the club not to have done this, so you could then slate them for "lack of planning", but instead slate them FOR "planning" ...

 

I can't be arsed to keep saying the same things to you.

 

Like sniffer said .....

Edited February 7, 2007 by LeazesMag

[Sima 0]

Keegan nearly bankrupted Man City with his ludicrous spending tbh

 

joke comment by a joke with no idea of how much this club owes him. Symptom of the modern clueless fan NUFC fan, as stevie says.

 

He did. Seriously, get a clue you moron.

 

He also jumped before he was pushed for at least the 3rd time in his career. I don't see why you're so bothered anyway? Keegan didn't preside over any of the last decade you hold so precious, so by your own argument he's irrelevant.

[Baggio 0]

That is not a particulary good England squad. The current one is better, and so was the 1990 one. Hoddle did better than Keegan, or didn't he ............ [be careful and check the facts if you choose to answer this]

 

Kevin Keegan (1999-2000)

P18 W7 D7 L4

2000 European Championship - 1st Round (3rd, Group A)

 

Glenn Hoddle (1996-99)

P28 W17 D6 L5

1998 World Cup - 2nd Round

 

 

I have answered all your points.

 

Where have you answered this question?

 

If you were chairman would you back the manager with £10 million to sign a player who the club hasn't scouted but your managers mate said he was good?

 

A simple yes or no will do.

 

How will Arsenal clear a bigger debt than us ? As you continue to not accept that all clubs have debt, such is the modern game. Our is mainly due to the stadium expansion. Would you prefer the club not to have done this, so you could then slate them for "lack of planning", but instead slate them FOR "planning" ...

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...nal/3512841.stm

 

They made a £11.3 million profit last year which was before they've even moved grounds, add to that the extra income from another 22,000 seats and they should be fine, they also sold the name of the stadium to Emirates for £100 million for the first 15 years.

 

Ours isn't mainly due to the stadium expansion at all, that cost £42 million over 6 years ago with a Reported £2 million being paid off a year, the majority of the clubs debt now is down to overspending in the transfer market.

 

Btw the stadium would have been as good as paid off if Shepherd and Hall hadn't paid the money to themselves in dividends, I don't want to get you started on that though.

 

Of course I wanted the club to expand the ground, but the extra income from the extra seats isn't an advantage anymore due to overspending.

[Gemmill 46992]

LM on the ropes.

[LeazesMag 0]

That is not a particulary good England squad. The current one is better, and so was the 1990 one. Hoddle did better than Keegan, or didn't he ............ [be careful and check the facts if you choose to answer this]

 

Kevin Keegan (1999-2000)

P18 W7 D7 L4

2000 European Championship - 1st Round (3rd, Group A)

 

Glenn Hoddle (1996-99)

P28 W17 D6 L5

1998 World Cup - 2nd Round

 

 

I have answered all your points.

 

Where have you answered this question?

 

If you were chairman would you back the manager with £10 million to sign a player who the club hasn't scouted but your managers mate said he was good?

 

A simple yes or no will do.

 

How will Arsenal clear a bigger debt than us ? As you continue to not accept that all clubs have debt, such is the modern game. Our is mainly due to the stadium expansion. Would you prefer the club not to have done this, so you could then slate them for "lack of planning", but instead slate them FOR "planning" ...

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...nal/3512841.stm

 

They made a £11.3 million profit last year which was before they've even moved grounds, add to that the extra income from another 22,000 seats and they should be fine, they also sold the name of the stadium to Emirates for £100 million for the first 15 years.

 

Ours isn't mainly due to the stadium expansion at all, that cost £42 million over 6 years ago with a Reported £2 million being paid off a year, the majority of the clubs debt now is down to overspending in the transfer market.

 

Btw the stadium would have been as good as paid off if Shepherd and Hall hadn't paid the money to themselves in dividends, I don't want to get you started on that though.

 

Of course I wanted the club to expand the ground, but the extra income from the extra seats isn't an advantage anymore due to overspending.

 

Keegan got England into a qualifying position for a tournament when they looked out of it. And did nothing much when they got there.

 

Exactly the same as Hoddle.

 

ref your "question" - good chairmen back their managers, shit chairmen don't. Why do you persist in slating the club for not spending money on players ie Miguel then slate them when they do ? Is your idea of a good chairman one who spends money on players that YOU want ??????

 

Fantastic.

 

The comment you make about spending 10m quid on a player based on your managers "mate" - put it against your earlier assertion that it is alright for Wenger, for instance, to rely on his DOF's judgement ? Another hypocritical stance. And why are you presuming that the chairman was told by his manager he hadn't watched him himself, maybe Souness told his manager he had watched Luque ? Keep making things up to suit your point

 

As sniffer said, you are a clueless idiot, and worse, you just make things up as you go.

 

As you wish to deal with facts, how about this one. How many clubs in this country have qualified for europe more than us in the last decade, therefore where does this leave us as anything other than the 5th most consistently successful club in the last decade? FACT.

 

Don't bother expecting a reply, if you don't - finally - answer this because to be honest, you are a waste of my time.

Edited February 7, 2007 by LeazesMag

[LeazesMag 0]

LM on the ropes.

 

still backing Souness them Gem

[Shearergol 0]

That is not a particulary good England squad. The current one is better, and so was the 1990 one. Hoddle did better than Keegan, or didn't he ............ [be careful and check the facts if you choose to answer this]

 

Kevin Keegan (1999-2000)

P18 W7 D7 L4

2000 European Championship - 1st Round (3rd, Group A)

 

Glenn Hoddle (1996-99)

P28 W17 D6 L5

1998 World Cup - 2nd Round

 

 

I have answered all your points.

 

Where have you answered this question?

 

If you were chairman would you back the manager with £10 million to sign a player who the club hasn't scouted but your managers mate said he was good?

 

A simple yes or no will do.

 

How will Arsenal clear a bigger debt than us ? As you continue to not accept that all clubs have debt, such is the modern game. Our is mainly due to the stadium expansion. Would you prefer the club not to have done this, so you could then slate them for "lack of planning", but instead slate them FOR "planning" ...

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...nal/3512841.stm

 

They made a £11.3 million profit last year which was before they've even moved grounds, add to that the extra income from another 22,000 seats and they should be fine, they also sold the name of the stadium to Emirates for £100 million for the first 15 years.

 

Ours isn't mainly due to the stadium expansion at all, that cost £42 million over 6 years ago with a Reported £2 million being paid off a year, the majority of the clubs debt now is down to overspending in the transfer market.

 

Btw the stadium would have been as good as paid off if Shepherd and Hall hadn't paid the money to themselves in dividends, I don't want to get you started on that though.

 

Of course I wanted the club to expand the ground, but the extra income from the extra seats isn't an advantage anymore due to overspending.

 

Keegan got England into a qualifying position for a tournament when they looked out of it. And did nothing much when they got there.

 

Exactly the same as Hoddle.

 

ref your "question" - good chairmen back their managers, shit chairmen don't. Why do you persist in slating the club for not spending money on players ie Miguel then slate them when they do ? Is your idea of a good chairman one who spends money on players that YOU want ??????

 

Fantastic.

 

The comment you make about spending 10m quid on a player based on your managers "mate" - put it against your earlier assertion that it is alright for Wenger, for instance, to rely on his DOF's judgement ? Another hypocritical stance. And why are you presuming that the chairman was told by his manager he hadn't watched him himself, maybe Souness told his manager he had watched Luque ? Keep making things up to suit your point

 

As sniffer said, you are a clueless idiot, and worse, you just make things up as you go.

 

As you wish to deal with facts, how about this one. How many clubs in this country have qualified for europe more than us in the last decade, therefore where does this leave us as anything other than the 5th most consistently successful club in the last decade? FACT.

 

Don't bother expecting a reply, if you don't - finally - answer this because to be honest, you are a waste of my time.

 

Has Fred been chairman for 10 years? What's our average purely under him?

 

If we drop out of the top 5 soon, have the board failed?

[Guest alex]

And I mean that.

[Gemmill 46992]

LM on the ropes.

 

still backing Souness them Gem

 

Nope. Still think we're the 5th best club in the country?

[Shearergol 0]

LM on the ropes.

 

still backing Souness them Gem

 

Nope. Still think we're the 5th best club in the country?

 

 

ON AVERAGE DOUBLE WANKER

 

[Gemmill 46992]

LM on the ropes.

 

still backing Souness them Gem

 

Nope. Still think we're the 5th best club in the country?

 

 

ON AVERAGE DOUBLE WANKER

 

 

 

Re the "Still backing Souness Gem?" thing, I've given up pointing out that his hero appointed and backed Souness with unprecedented transfer funds to the point where we are fucking brassic as a club and will be for several transfer windows to come.....because I know he won't respond to it. :P

[Baggio 0]

That is not a particulary good England squad. The current one is better, and so was the 1990 one. Hoddle did better than Keegan, or didn't he ............ [be careful and check the facts if you choose to answer this]

 

Kevin Keegan (1999-2000)

P18 W7 D7 L4

2000 European Championship - 1st Round (3rd, Group A)

 

Glenn Hoddle (1996-99)

P28 W17 D6 L5

1998 World Cup - 2nd Round

 

 

I have answered all your points.

 

Where have you answered this question?

 

If you were chairman would you back the manager with £10 million to sign a player who the club hasn't scouted but your managers mate said he was good?

 

A simple yes or no will do.

 

How will Arsenal clear a bigger debt than us ? As you continue to not accept that all clubs have debt, such is the modern game. Our is mainly due to the stadium expansion. Would you prefer the club not to have done this, so you could then slate them for "lack of planning", but instead slate them FOR "planning" ...

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...nal/3512841.stm

 

They made a £11.3 million profit last year which was before they've even moved grounds, add to that the extra income from another 22,000 seats and they should be fine, they also sold the name of the stadium to Emirates for £100 million for the first 15 years.

 

Ours isn't mainly due to the stadium expansion at all, that cost £42 million over 6 years ago with a Reported £2 million being paid off a year, the majority of the clubs debt now is down to overspending in the transfer market.

 

Btw the stadium would have been as good as paid off if Shepherd and Hall hadn't paid the money to themselves in dividends, I don't want to get you started on that though.

 

Of course I wanted the club to expand the ground, but the extra income from the extra seats isn't an advantage anymore due to overspending.

 

Keegan got England into a qualifying position for a tournament when they looked out of it. And did nothing much when they got there.

 

Exactly the same as Hoddle.

 

ref your "question" - good chairmen back their managers, shit chairmen don't. Why do you persist in slating the club for not spending money on players ie Miguel then slate them when they do ? Is your idea of a good chairman one who spends money on players that YOU want ??????

 

Fantastic.

 

The comment you make about spending 10m quid on a player based on your managers "mate" - put it against your earlier assertion that it is alright for Wenger, for instance, to rely on his DOF's judgement ? Another hypocritical stance. And why are you presuming that the chairman was told by his manager he hadn't watched him himself, maybe Souness told his manager he had watched Luque ? Keep making things up to suit your point

 

As sniffer said, you are a clueless idiot, and worse, you just make things up as you go.

 

As you wish to deal with facts, how about this one. How many clubs in this country have qualified for europe more than us in the last decade, therefore where does this leave us as anything other than the 5th most consistently successful club in the last decade? FACT.

 

Don't bother expecting a reply, if you don't - finally - answer this because to be honest, you are a waste of my time.

 

I think Leazes mag has finally lost the plot.

 

I don't recall Sniffer saying that, can you provide a link or have you yet again made something up to try and back up your ridiculous claims?

 

As for the last decade, you're right, we have been the 5th most successful club in that time if you only go off league position, we had to go £80 million into debt to do it, we haven't won a trophy where as Spurs, Leicester, Blackburn and Boro have in that time but if it's something that makes you feel better about Shepherd and yourself, be my guest.

 

One thing this thread has taught me is when you push Leazes on a subject he insults you, makes things up and does anything to avoid answering questions that put either fat Fred or himself in a bad light, everything you've questioned me about I've provided quotes or facts to back up my point and I've enjoyed embarrassing you and your lack of football knowledge. :

 

Keep clutching those straws old man.

 

Oh and I still didn't get a proper answer to my question...PATHETIC!

[Baggio 0]

As sniffer said, you are a clueless idiot, and worse, you just make things up as you go.

 

I've just had a look on N-O at what Sniffer actually said and it was in a debate about replacing Shearer...

 

Baggio - "I would of preferred replacing him with a striker that actually wanted to come here, someone that we could afford and wouldn't have left the club millions in debt with no way of paying it back, a striker that hasn't had a history of being injured either."

 

Sniffer - "You know baggio, it's morons like you that stop people posting on boards. They usually just say f*** it, what's the point?"

 

http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/...?topic=35523.75

 

 

Quite a big difference from what you claimed he said don't you think?

Edited February 7, 2007 by Baggio

[Gejon 2]

I wish Baggio had stopped certain posters from using the forums, must try harder Baggio!