The Fish 11127 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Urgent as in time sensitive rather than "Help I'm being savaged by a grizzly, what do I do?" Kelly's services have offered me a job, it was the position I applied for on thursday. The guy interviewing was really posisitive and alluded to my working in that office and redressing an imbalance of the men to women ratio. He commented on how he wanted to work with people with good personality etc. He talked about promotion prospects, how all I need do is complete a couple of "in house" qualifications (cf1 and cf3) and I'd be on the path to a career etc. etc. etc. and he as much as offered me the job on the spot. This morning I got a phonecall from Kelly's saying that the job being offered is better than the one advertised, with more pay and more responsibility... but it's in Harrogate. Now I've got no problem going to Harrogate but I'm concerned. Why would the guy make all those noise about my working in that office and such when he was going to offer me a position elsewhere? What could the job be if it is neither the entry level job I applied for and ,because of the lack of those qualifications, the next rung up the career ladder? I'm worried that Kelly's, now that they've found me a palce, are trying to farm me out to Harrogate so they've a Leeds central job to offer to someone else. Also the wage difference wasn't clarified even after I asked her to, so if it's 15k in Harrogate but 14k in Leeds then I could be content to work in Leeds for a year or so. The money I'd save on car-tax etc. Am I just being paranoid because the last few jobs I've have turned out to be god awful mess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47706 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 I thought you were still at uni anyway? Is this meant to be a graduate job or just something to get you by while you're studying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 you need clarrity on this call them back and ask them to put the job offer in WRITING (even an email will ) with pay and conditions sounds like they are desperate (no offence) to fill jobs in both places You may be good enough to be in the Harrogate office away from the Big Boss - or he came across someone prettier Who knows? Do you have any other options??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11127 Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 you need clarrity on this call them back and ask them to put the job offer in WRITING (even an email will ) with pay and conditions sounds like they are desperate (no offence) to fill jobs in both places You may be good enough to be in the Harrogate office away from the Big Boss - or he came across someone prettier Who knows? Do you have any other options??? I was going to go into the Leeds office today, if I spoke to the guy himself I'd feel he could allay my concerns. Other options is keep working at the pub and play the waiting game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47706 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 So is this a graduate job or not? What exactly are you gonna be doing? Is this Kelly the recruitment people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11127 Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 So is this a graduate job or not? What exactly are you gonna be doing? Is this Kelly the recruitment people? No, it's not a graduate job, it's just to tide me over. That's my main issue, see the job I was initially offered was entry level clerking, and the guy said that the next job up the ladder required vocational qualifications. So how can they offer me a job with better pay and more responsibility if I don't have those qualifications? oh and yeah it's the recruitment people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47706 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 So is this a graduate job or not? What exactly are you gonna be doing? Is this Kelly the recruitment people? No, it's not a graduate job, it's just to tide me over. That's my main issue, see the job I was initially offered was entry level clerking, and the guy said that the next job up the ladder required vocational qualifications. So how can they offer me a job with better pay and more responsibility if I don't have those qualifications? oh and yeah it's the recruitment people. I wouldn't worry about how they can offer you it tbh. It's unlikely to be beyond you, so if they're gonna give you a bit more cash and more responsibility, just take it. It'll look better on your CV than clerking. Sorry if I'm missing something, but I don't see the cause for concern, genuinely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 So is this a graduate job or not? What exactly are you gonna be doing? Is this Kelly the recruitment people? No, it's not a graduate job, it's just to tide me over. That's my main issue, see the job I was initially offered was entry level clerking, and the guy said that the next job up the ladder required vocational qualifications. So how can they offer me a job with better pay and more responsibility if I don't have those qualifications? oh and yeah it's the recruitment people. I wouldn't worry about how they can offer you it tbh. It's unlikely to be beyond you, so if they're gonna give you a bit more cash and more responsibility, just take it. It'll look better on your CV than clerking. Sorry if I'm missing something, but I don't see the cause for concern, genuinely. As he said. What happenned to your new job adventure Gemma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47706 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Interviews ongoing matey. Something came up in Boro last week - new company, recently floated on AIM, which specialises in the design of hybrid eco-friendly fuels. I could be an accounting eco-warrior......if it wasn't in Boro. Shame like, cos it would be good getting into a company that young cos if it takes off you'd be quids in on share options and that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11127 Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 (edited) I wouldn't worry about how they can offer you it tbh. It's unlikely to be beyond you, so if they're gonna give you a bit more cash and more responsibility, just take it. It'll look better on your CV than clerking. Sorry if I'm missing something, but I don't see the cause for concern, genuinely. my thing is more about how can they offer me a "better" job when they've already said that the only way to get that better job is with on-the-job training... I'm worried that they're offering me this job in Harrogate so that they can keep the job in Leeds in their back-pocket. if the job in Harrogate isn't too much more I'd rather take the job in Leeds and save money, instead of getting a few extra quid in my pocket, just to see that and more go into the pocket of someone else via petrol, road tax and car insurance. *by "they" I mean Kellys, not Park Row Edited February 5, 2007 by The Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walliver 0 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Urgent as in time sensitive rather than "Help I'm being savaged by a grizzly, what do I do?" Kelly's services have offered me a job, it was the position I applied for on thursday. The guy interviewing was really posisitive and alluded to my working in that office and redressing an imbalance of the men to women ratio. He commented on how he wanted to work with people with good personality etc. He talked about promotion prospects, how all I need do is complete a couple of "in house" qualifications (cf1 and cf3) and I'd be on the path to a career etc. etc. etc. and he as much as offered me the job on the spot. This morning I got a phonecall from Kelly's saying that the job being offered is better than the one advertised, with more pay and more responsibility... but it's in Harrogate. Now I've got no problem going to Harrogate but I'm concerned. Why would the guy make all those noise about my working in that office and such when he was going to offer me a position elsewhere? What could the job be if it is neither the entry level job I applied for and ,because of the lack of those qualifications, the next rung up the career ladder? I'm worried that Kelly's, now that they've found me a palce, are trying to farm me out to Harrogate so they've a Leeds central job to offer to someone else. Also the wage difference wasn't clarified even after I Take that one.asked her to, so if it's 15k in Harrogate but 14k in Leeds then I could be content to work in Leeds for a year or so. The money I'd save on car-tax etc. Am I just being paranoid because the last few jobs I've have turned out to be god awful mess? A temporary job in a place full of women? Take that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47706 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 I wouldn't worry about how they can offer you it tbh. It's unlikely to be beyond you, so if they're gonna give you a bit more cash and more responsibility, just take it. It'll look better on your CV than clerking. Sorry if I'm missing something, but I don't see the cause for concern, genuinely. my thing is more about how can they offer me a "better" job when they've already said that the only way to get that better job is with on-the-job training... I'm worried that they're offering me this job in Harrogate so that they can keep the job in Leeds in their back-pocket. if the job in Harrogate isn't too much more I'd rather take the job in Leeds and save money, instead of getting a few extra quid in my pocket, just to see that and more go into the pocket of someone else via petrol, road tax and car insurance. So your question really has nothing to do with how they are able to offer you that job, and whether the offer is so that they can keep the job in Leeds open, and is actually - will the additional wage for the job in Harrogate cover my travel costs/time spent travelling sufficiently to make it worth my while? In which case you need to find out the exact salary for the job in Harrogate, do some calculations, estimate your travel times, and see what you think. If you come to the conclusion that the one in Harrogate isn't worth the hassle, go back to the bloke, tell him that (explain your reasons, you're perfectly entitled to say that you were interviewing for a job in Leeds, not Harrogate, and that the additional cost/time of travelling to Harrogate is of concern to you), and ask if the job in Leeds is still open to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 I wouldn't worry about how they can offer you it tbh. It's unlikely to be beyond you, so if they're gonna give you a bit more cash and more responsibility, just take it. It'll look better on your CV than clerking. Sorry if I'm missing something, but I don't see the cause for concern, genuinely. my thing is more about how can they offer me a "better" job when they've already said that the only way to get that better job is with on-the-job training... I'm worried that they're offering me this job in Harrogate so that they can keep the job in Leeds in their back-pocket. if the job in Harrogate isn't too much more I'd rather take the job in Leeds and save money, instead of getting a few extra quid in my pocket, just to see that and more go into the pocket of someone else via petrol, road tax and car insurance. *by "they" I mean Kellys, not Park Row if it's £15k plays £16k it's hardly going to be worth their while holding one back, the commission will be roughly the same, unless you think noone wants to work in Harrogate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Interviews ongoing matey. Something came up in Boro last week - new company, recently floated on AIM, which specialises in the design of hybrid eco-friendly fuels. I could be an accounting eco-warrior......if it wasn't in Boro. Shame like, cos it would be good getting into a company that young cos if it takes off you'd be quids in on share options and that. Would have been ideal but for the 'location'. Gemma the 'hybrid' accountant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Interviews ongoing matey. Something came up in Boro last week - new company, recently floated on AIM, which specialises in the design of hybrid eco-friendly fuels. I could be an accounting eco-warrior......if it wasn't in Boro. Shame like, cos it would be good getting into a company that young cos if it takes off you'd be quids in on share options and that. Would have been ideal but for the 'location'. Gemma the 'hybrid' accountant. If the guy on N-O talking about share tips is to be believed, that company won't have a chance And don't believe what they promise on share options, I was in an up and coming company that liked to issue shares as bonuses and raises, however, after the IPO didn't happen for a few years after they planned, all employees got screwed over and found their shares were worth next to nowt as the capital had chopped up and resold so many times just to get there, all we were left with was scraps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Interviews ongoing matey. Something came up in Boro last week - new company, recently floated on AIM, which specialises in the design of hybrid eco-friendly fuels. I could be an accounting eco-warrior......if it wasn't in Boro. Shame like, cos it would be good getting into a company that young cos if it takes off you'd be quids in on share options and that. Would have been ideal but for the 'location'. Gemma the 'hybrid' accountant. If the guy on N-O talking about share tips is to be believed, that company won't have a chance And don't believe what they promise on share options, I was in an up and coming company that liked to issue shares as bonuses and raises, however, after the IPO didn't happen for a few years after they planned, all employees got screwed over and found their shares were worth next to nowt as the capital had chopped up and resold so many times just to get there, all we were left with was scraps. happens all the time - options etc are great IN ADDITION to £££££ in the pay packet but very dodgy if they are in place of cash on the nail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Interviews ongoing matey. Something came up in Boro last week - new company, recently floated on AIM, which specialises in the design of hybrid eco-friendly fuels. I could be an accounting eco-warrior......if it wasn't in Boro. Shame like, cos it would be good getting into a company that young cos if it takes off you'd be quids in on share options and that. Would have been ideal but for the 'location'. Gemma the 'hybrid' accountant. If the guy on N-O talking about share tips is to be believed, that company won't have a chance And don't believe what they promise on share options, I was in an up and coming company that liked to issue shares as bonuses and raises, however, after the IPO didn't happen for a few years after they planned, all employees got screwed over and found their shares were worth next to nowt as the capital had chopped up and resold so many times just to get there, all we were left with was scraps. happens all the time - options etc are great IN ADDITION to £££££ in the pay packet but very dodgy if they are in place of cash on the nail tbf it was always 50/50 cash shares, but I could have honestly broken the CFO's nose had I still been there when the float paperwork came through. Pisses you off as I actually worked harder because of it. The injustice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 0 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Interviews ongoing matey. Something came up in Boro last week - new company, recently floated on AIM, which specialises in the design of hybrid eco-friendly fuels. I could be an accounting eco-warrior......if it wasn't in Boro. Shame like, cos it would be good getting into a company that young cos if it takes off you'd be quids in on share options and that. D1 Oils, I assume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47706 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Interviews ongoing matey. Something came up in Boro last week - new company, recently floated on AIM, which specialises in the design of hybrid eco-friendly fuels. I could be an accounting eco-warrior......if it wasn't in Boro. Shame like, cos it would be good getting into a company that young cos if it takes off you'd be quids in on share options and that. D1 Oils, I assume? Aye, I think that's what they were called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally 0 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Get that job Gemmill then you can come to mine for tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11127 Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 ok, the bird at Kelly's is fucking useless, the job at Harrogate isn't more money, it isn't more responsibility it's exactly the same, but it's working in a support role for higher management, rather than middle management. so the opportunity for better experience and better reference means it's not a difficult choice really. still need to work out finances and the like, but I should know by thursday what I'm doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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