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[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4063]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

[Guest alex]

What's he actually meant to have said then? If it's black/negro *insert expletive here* it's a bit different to just saying negro or whatever. I would tend to think in any case it was a racially motivated comment though which, while inexcusable, was still just something said in the heat of the moment and doesn't make him a racist neccessarily.

[Guest Patrokles]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

 

Your argument is flawed because Paki is a derogatory term for Pakistani, whereas Negro and Black are interchangable. I wasn't even referring to a different language; Negro is a term used interchangably with Black in the English language.

[Guest Patrokles]

What's he actually meant to have said then? If it's black/negro *insert expletive here* it's a bit different to just saying negro or whatever. I would tend to think in any case it was a racially motivated comment though which, while inexcusable, was still just something said in the heat of the moment and doesn't make him a racist neccessarily.

 

I would assume it was Negro/Black something. But if it were to Yobo, who actually is Nigerian, it'd be equivalent to calling Duff a stupid irish prick, or someone like Mokoena calling Butt a silly english cocksucker.

[Tom 14021]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

 

 

Its like saying Brit or Pom reallly?

 

Not racist at all

 

but the PC brigade get off on turning England into a police state where even a slip of the tongue can fuck you up

[Isegrim 10000]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

 

Your argument is flawed because Paki is a derogatory term for Pakistani, whereas Negro and Black are interchangable. I wasn't even referring to a different language; Negro is a term used interchangably with Black in the English language.

So you really think, Emre just wanted to be as polite as possible and had no intention of winding someone up by using foul language?

 

[Guest alex]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

 

 

Its like saying Brit or Pom reallly?

 

Not racist at all

 

but the PC brigade get off on turning England into a police state where even a slip of the tongue can fuck you up

Not really, it's meant to be offensive and is taken to be by those it's aimed at. Quite different to Brit or Pom.

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4063]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

 

 

Its like saying Brit or Pom reallly?

 

Not racist at all

 

but the PC brigade get off on turning England into a police state where even a slip of the tongue can fuck you up

 

So when people were sing "I would rather be a paki than a turk" they were just pointing out they would rather live in Pakistan than Turkey?

 

Many more blind eyes being turned here and we will have to organise a braille forum.

[Guest Patrokles]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

 

Your argument is flawed because Paki is a derogatory term for Pakistani, whereas Negro and Black are interchangable. I wasn't even referring to a different language; Negro is a term used interchangably with Black in the English language.

So you really think, Emre just wanted to be as polite as possible and had no intention of winding someone up by using foul language?

 

 

That's not what I said at all. I was just explaining the difference between Nigger and Negro.

[TheMoog 0]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

 

Can you prove that?

 

Besides, calling a Scottish person a Scot isn't racist so how is calling some from Pakistan a Paki? Just an excuse for people to whinge or get sympathy imo. What about calling a Welsh person Taff? Or an Irishman Paddy? I don't see these folks getting a stress on about it. The problem is all the lefty do-gooders that jump on the bandwagon to say "Oh you can't say that about this person it'll offend them" when the actual people involved don't give a sh*t. The leftys just wind people up and cause the conflict.

Edited February 5, 2007 by Armchair Pundit

[Tom 14021]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

 

 

Its like saying Brit or Pom reallly?

 

Not racist at all

 

but the PC brigade get off on turning England into a police state where even a slip of the tongue can fuck you up

 

So when people were sing "I would rather be a paki than a turk" they were just pointing out they would rather live in Pakistan than Turkey?

 

Many more blind eyes being turned here and we will have to organise a braille forum.

 

That is purely contextual

 

I was referring to the word

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4063]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

 

Your argument is flawed because Paki is a derogatory term for Pakistani, whereas Negro and Black are interchangable. I wasn't even referring to a different language; Negro is a term used interchangably with Black in the English language.

So you really think, Emre just wanted to be as polite as possible and had no intention of winding someone up by using foul language?

 

 

That's not what I said at all. I was just explaining the difference between Nigger and Negro.

 

I nor anyone I have ever met or conversed with seen on TV or raed the works of in print have used the word Negro instead of the word black in a non derogatory way in britain.

[Tom 14021]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

 

Can you prove that?

 

Besides, calling a Scottish person a Scot isn't racist so how is calling some from Pakistan a Paki? Just an excuse for people to whinge or get sympathy imo. What about calling a Welsh person Taff? Or and Irishman Paddy? I don't these folks getting a stress on about it. The problem is all the lefty do-gooders that jump on the bandwagon to say "Oh you can't say that about this person it'll offend them" when the actual people involved don't give a sh*t. The leftys just wind people up and cause the conflict.

 

 

NAIL / HEAD TBH

[Isegrim 10000]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

 

Your argument is flawed because Paki is a derogatory term for Pakistani, whereas Negro and Black are interchangable. I wasn't even referring to a different language; Negro is a term used interchangably with Black in the English language.

So you really think, Emre just wanted to be as polite as possible and had no intention of winding someone up by using foul language?

 

 

That's not what I said at all. I was just explaining the difference between Nigger and Negro.

Yes, but that is very technically and I don't think how it applies to this situation. As much as I am not a fan of Emre and don't expect him to be a totally idiot (well, ok I do). He knows how racism is dealt with in football. He knows it from his time in Italy, he knows it from his experience with the Turkish national team and he has been long enough in England to know the stance in British football.

And while I am not considering Emre to be a racist himself, I think he is guilty of using language that is worldwide considered to be racist when used in the context of an insult.

[Guest alex]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

 

Can you prove that?

 

Besides, calling a Scottish person a Scot isn't racist so how is calling some from Pakistan a Paki? Just an excuse for people to whinge or get sympathy imo. What about calling a Welsh person Taff? Or and Irishman Paddy? I don't these folks getting a stress on about it. The problem is all the lefty do-gooders that jump on the bandwagon to say "Oh you can't say that about this person it'll offend them" when the actual people involved don't give a sh*t. The leftys just wind people up and cause the conflict.

Can you prove that?

[Tom 14021]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

 

Can you prove that?

 

Besides, calling a Scottish person a Scot isn't racist so how is calling some from Pakistan a Paki? Just an excuse for people to whinge or get sympathy imo. What about calling a Welsh person Taff? Or and Irishman Paddy? I don't these folks getting a stress on about it. The problem is all the lefty do-gooders that jump on the bandwagon to say "Oh you can't say that about this person it'll offend them" when the actual people involved don't give a sh*t. The leftys just wind people up and cause the conflict.

Can you prove that?

 

Surely people can see whats going on?

[Gemmill 46996]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

 

Can you prove that?

 

Besides, calling a Scottish person a Scot isn't racist so how is calling some from Pakistan a Paki? Just an excuse for people to whinge or get sympathy imo. What about calling a Welsh person Taff? Or and Irishman Paddy? I don't these folks getting a stress on about it. The problem is all the lefty do-gooders that jump on the bandwagon to say "Oh you can't say that about this person it'll offend them" when the actual people involved don't give a sh*t. The leftys just wind people up and cause the conflict.

 

Are you serious? It's just the lefties winding people up? If Emre has called someone a black whatever then there's not much place for him at a club with a number of black players in the squad, is there? Whether he's actually racist or it was heat of the moment, he's shown a side of himself that isn't very pleasant. We've all seen the rage that overcomes him from time to time - tell me that he wasn't looking to offend Lescott and Howard. Load of shite.

 

Let's not try the "What about calling someone ginger?" argument or any of its derivatives.

[Isegrim 10000]

So, when all this is just a sandalista conspiracy and the usage of the language totally correct, why were the likes of Howard and Yobo evidently offended?

[Guest Patrokles]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

 

Your argument is flawed because Paki is a derogatory term for Pakistani, whereas Negro and Black are interchangable. I wasn't even referring to a different language; Negro is a term used interchangably with Black in the English language.

So you really think, Emre just wanted to be as polite as possible and had no intention of winding someone up by using foul language?

 

 

That's not what I said at all. I was just explaining the difference between Nigger and Negro.

 

I nor anyone I have ever met or conversed with seen on TV or raed the works of in print have used the word Negro instead of the word black in a non derogatory way in britain.

 

Although it's not Britain, my experience of American (and African-American) literature shows just the opposite, and there is a far higher Negro population over there. Check out Langston Hughes, for example, who was Negro and wrote the famous 'Negro Speaks of Rivers' poem.

[Tom 14021]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

 

Can you prove that?

 

Besides, calling a Scottish person a Scot isn't racist so how is calling some from Pakistan a Paki? Just an excuse for people to whinge or get sympathy imo. What about calling a Welsh person Taff? Or and Irishman Paddy? I don't these folks getting a stress on about it. The problem is all the lefty do-gooders that jump on the bandwagon to say "Oh you can't say that about this person it'll offend them" when the actual people involved don't give a sh*t. The leftys just wind people up and cause the conflict.

 

Are you serious? It's just the lefties winding people up? If Emre has called someone a black whatever then there's not much place for him at a club with a number of black players in the squad, is there? Whether he's actually racist or it was heat of the moment, he's shown a side of himself that isn't very pleasant. We've all seen the rage that overcomes him from time to time - tell me that he wasn't looking to offend Lescott and Howard. Load of shite.

 

Let's not try the "What about calling someone ginger?" argument or any of its derivatives.

 

I dont think thats what he was talking about

[Gemmill 46996]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

 

Can you prove that?

 

Besides, calling a Scottish person a Scot isn't racist so how is calling some from Pakistan a Paki? Just an excuse for people to whinge or get sympathy imo. What about calling a Welsh person Taff? Or and Irishman Paddy? I don't these folks getting a stress on about it. The problem is all the lefty do-gooders that jump on the bandwagon to say "Oh you can't say that about this person it'll offend them" when the actual people involved don't give a sh*t. The leftys just wind people up and cause the conflict.

 

 

NAIL / HEAD TBH

 

BRAIN DEAD TBH.

[Tom 14021]

way to quote Patrokles

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4063]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

 

Can you prove that?

 

Besides, calling a Scottish person a Scot isn't racist so how is calling some from Pakistan a Paki? Just an excuse for people to whinge or get sympathy imo. What about calling a Welsh person Taff? Or and Irishman Paddy? I don't these folks getting a stress on about it. The problem is all the lefty do-gooders that jump on the bandwagon to say "Oh you can't say that about this person it'll offend them" when the actual people involved don't give a sh*t. The leftys just wind people up and cause the conflict.

Can you prove that?

 

Surely people can see whats going on?

 

Yes we can. You are uncomfortable with facing the realism of racism in society today. You wish to blame an unknown grey face for imposing their beliefs on someone you are connected to albeit loosely rather than face up to the fact that they are a nasty person who uses foul abusive and racist language to upset people when things don't go their own way.

 

Now his use of language does not make him a racist in the same way as wanting a national health care system does not make Bill Clinton a socialist.

 

However he used racist language and should be punished appropriately and if Roeder was any kind of man he would back up his own words.

Edited February 5, 2007 by Kevin Carr's Gloves

[Gemmill 46996]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

 

Can you prove that?

 

Besides, calling a Scottish person a Scot isn't racist so how is calling some from Pakistan a Paki? Just an excuse for people to whinge or get sympathy imo. What about calling a Welsh person Taff? Or and Irishman Paddy? I don't these folks getting a stress on about it. The problem is all the lefty do-gooders that jump on the bandwagon to say "Oh you can't say that about this person it'll offend them" when the actual people involved don't give a sh*t. The leftys just wind people up and cause the conflict.

 

Are you serious? It's just the lefties winding people up? If Emre has called someone a black whatever then there's not much place for him at a club with a number of black players in the squad, is there? Whether he's actually racist or it was heat of the moment, he's shown a side of himself that isn't very pleasant. We've all seen the rage that overcomes him from time to time - tell me that he wasn't looking to offend Lescott and Howard. Load of shite.

 

Let's not try the "What about calling someone ginger?" argument or any of its derivatives.

 

I dont think thats what he was talking about

 

Ok, what was he saying then? I think the stance that he's taking is fairly clear. It's the same misguided one you seem to be taking.

[Tom 14021]

So will ROeder be his usual hypocrite self and back his man even though he tore into players making racist comments. I think so because he is a cock.

 

The point is whether or not the comments were racist.

 

Well IMHO calling someone a Negro out of anger is racist. It is a comment meant to hurt.

 

It's not nigger, though, which has definite negative connotation. It'd be the difference between Pakistani and Paki, I guess.

 

 

So where is Negro then. I know calling someone a Pakistani is saying where they come from. How does that equate to Negro?

 

Negro essentially means the same as black. It's in no way derogatory.

 

 

Paki means someone from pakistan so I am assuming you dont think that is racist either? Negro is neither Turkish nor English for black so why use it. It was a stattement based on someones race intended to cause emotional distress.

 

Can you prove that?

 

Besides, calling a Scottish person a Scot isn't racist so how is calling some from Pakistan a Paki? Just an excuse for people to whinge or get sympathy imo. What about calling a Welsh person Taff? Or and Irishman Paddy? I don't these folks getting a stress on about it. The problem is all the lefty do-gooders that jump on the bandwagon to say "Oh you can't say that about this person it'll offend them" when the actual people involved don't give a sh*t. The leftys just wind people up and cause the conflict.

 

 

NAIL / HEAD TBH

 

BRAIN DEAD TBH.

 

People just like to fuss over nothing man,

 

I dont use the language myself but i dont nesseccarily (sp) host a rally through the town center when someone uses the word 'paki'

 

''I am going to the paki's''

 

Whats wrong with that?

 

as apposed to ' i am going to the store owned by the pakistani's''