Invicta_Toon 0 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 right, so who are we going to ring today and slap in a contract, all ready to move come the summer... I'd love to think that was for a laugh, following Renton's comments about the random shit you post. I fear that would be giving you far too much credit though Again, I would not be surprised if people took it literally. The point being, when do we start contracting players ready for the first day of the summer window? Now? In 2 months? In May? Seriously, how far forward does it have to be to be good 'planning' and getting one over on every other manager who seem to be more than able to start and complete deals inside the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 right, so who are we going to ring today and slap in a contract, all ready to move come the summer... I'd love to think that was for a laugh, following Renton's comments about the random shit you post. I fear that would be giving you far too much credit though Again, I would not be surprised if people took it literally. The point being, when do we start contracting players ready for the first day of the summer window? Now? In 2 months? In May? Seriously, how far forward does it have to be to be good 'planning' and getting one over on every other manager who seem to be more than able to start and complete deals inside the window. The proof's in the pudding. It's not a question of when, rather of net results. If we're still fucking about ringing people on August 31st I'd suggest we can mark it down as another fuck-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 right, so who are we going to ring today and slap in a contract, all ready to move come the summer... I'd love to think that was for a laugh, following Renton's comments about the random shit you post. I fear that would be giving you far too much credit though Again, I would not be surprised if people took it literally. The point being, when do we start contracting players ready for the first day of the summer window? Now? In 2 months? In May? Seriously, how far forward does it have to be to be good 'planning' and getting one over on every other manager who seem to be more than able to start and complete deals inside the window. I'll accept having the players in time for the start of pre season training instead of after the season starts for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46162 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 The "we will not be making any signings until after the World Cup" from last summer was an absolute ring-stinging classic. 6 weeks of a 12 week transfer window down the pan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skhwoody 0 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Planning and some common sense would have seen Sol Cambell here last year. Yes not a brilliant player but i think his experience would have installed a little less of the headless chicken attitude we have at the moment. And best of all he was on a free and he wanted to come. But no the master plan was in place and he was deemed surplus to requirements. I think Jan 1st hits and at St James Park people are walking around scratching their head thinking "Something important today can't remember what" and by the last week its took late. I am sick of empty headed 'Soundbites' in the press quoting - Hard Work, scouring available players, someone worthy of newcastle et al - being thrown about instead of some honest "you know lads i do not have a clue" comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invicta_Toon 0 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 right, so who are we going to ring today and slap in a contract, all ready to move come the summer... I'd love to think that was for a laugh, following Renton's comments about the random shit you post. I fear that would be giving you far too much credit though Again, I would not be surprised if people took it literally. The point being, when do we start contracting players ready for the first day of the summer window? Now? In 2 months? In May? Seriously, how far forward does it have to be to be good 'planning' and getting one over on every other manager who seem to be more than able to start and complete deals inside the window. The proof's in the pudding. It's not a question of when, rather of net results. If we're still fucking about ringing people on August 31st I'd suggest we can mark it down as another fuck-up. you honestly can't see a scenario whereby no matter how many players you target, none of the deals come off? Where are all these players coming out in the media now saying 'I can't believe Newcastle didn't come in for me' I really can't see the fuss over ringing people on the last day. It's deadline day FFS, by very definition the last day that you have a chance to complete deals. Why wouldn't you be ringing people Again, when is he supposed to give up and stop calling, to appear professional and planned to the likes of gemma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invicta_Toon 0 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Planning and some common sense would have seen Sol Cambell here last year. Yes not a brilliant player but i think his experience would have installed a little less of the headless chicken attitude we have at the moment. And best of all he was on a free and he wanted to come. But no the master plan was in place and he was deemed surplus to requirements. I think Jan 1st hits and at St James Park people are walking around scratching their head thinking "Something important today can't remember what" and by the last week its took late. I am sick of empty headed 'Soundbites' in the press quoting - Hard Work, scouring available players, someone worthy of newcastle et al - being thrown about instead of some honest "you know lads i do not have a clue" comments. sol campbell is the very definition of headless chicken. How many teams succeed by continously signing players for 1 or 2 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skhwoody 0 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Planning and some common sense would have seen Sol Cambell here last year. Yes not a brilliant player but i think his experience would have installed a little less of the headless chicken attitude we have at the moment. And best of all he was on a free and he wanted to come. But no the master plan was in place and he was deemed surplus to requirements. I think Jan 1st hits and at St James Park people are walking around scratching their head thinking "Something important today can't remember what" and by the last week its took late. I am sick of empty headed 'Soundbites' in the press quoting - Hard Work, scouring available players, someone worthy of newcastle et al - being thrown about instead of some honest "you know lads i do not have a clue" comments. sol campbell is the very definition of headless chicken. How many teams succeed by continously signing players for 1 or 2 years? Problem is he is still an improvement on what we have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinofbeans 91 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 skhwoody. the way sol campbell has played for pompy has been extremely impressive. despite his age he is still probably one of the top 3 or 4 centrebacks in the premiership. why on earth we didn't go for him i don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46162 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 I am sick of empty headed 'Soundbites' in the press quoting - Hard Work, scouring available players, someone worthy of newcastle et al - being thrown about instead of some honest "you know lads i do not have a clue" comments. My favourite is the "I'm not going to go out and sign bad players because that's not the right thing to do." You cannot buy insight like that. This man Roeder knows his shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skhwoody 0 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 (edited) It is something that is a mystery to me, especially as he was probably the only player who actually wanted to come here. Edited February 1, 2007 by skhwoody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4ever 0 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Sol Campbell is far better than anything we've got in that position. He'd also be a great influence on the youngsters in training working with a player of such calibre and experience. But he's over 30, so we didn't want him. Then we got Sibierski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 you honestly can't see a scenario whereby no matter how many players you target, none of the deals come off? Yes, it seems increasingly likely due to the morons in charge. Where are all these players coming out in the media now saying 'I can't believe Newcastle didn't come in for me' That's random I really can't see the fuss over ringing people on the last day. It's deadline day FFS, by very definition the last day that you have a chance to complete deals. Why wouldn't you be ringing people It smacks of panic and leads to signings like Sibierski and Bernard. Nowt wrong with working hard to get people in at the last minute but it's far from ideal either. Again, when is he supposed to give up and stop calling, to appear professional and planned to the likes of gemma? What a silly question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Planning and some common sense would have seen Sol Cambell here last year. Yes not a brilliant player but i think his experience would have installed a little less of the headless chicken attitude we have at the moment. And best of all he was on a free and he wanted to come. But no the master plan was in place and he was deemed surplus to requirements. I think Jan 1st hits and at St James Park people are walking around scratching their head thinking "Something important today can't remember what" and by the last week its took late. I am sick of empty headed 'Soundbites' in the press quoting - Hard Work, scouring available players, someone worthy of newcastle et al - being thrown about instead of some honest "you know lads i do not have a clue" comments. sol campbell is the very definition of headless chicken. How many teams succeed by continously signing players for 1 or 2 years? The very defintion of the big, strong, experienced defender we were crying out last summer imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9910 Posted February 1, 2007 Author Share Posted February 1, 2007 right, so who are we going to ring today and slap in a contract, all ready to move come the summer... I'd love to think that was for a laugh, following Renton's comments about the random shit you post. I fear that would be giving you far too much credit though Again, I would not be surprised if people took it literally. The point being, when do we start contracting players ready for the first day of the summer window? Now? In 2 months? In May? Seriously, how far forward does it have to be to be good 'planning' and getting one over on every other manager who seem to be more than able to start and complete deals inside the window. I'll accept having the players in time for the start of pre season training instead of after the season starts for a change. Exactly. That's what pissed me off about Roeder big style last summer. When he took the job one of the first things he was saying was that he couldn't even afford a holiday because he has to assemble the squad for next season. The next thing was that he was off to Turkey for a couple of weeks. Then at some time in July he said that he has to sit together with Fat Fred and draw up a list of players they should go after. The "planning" and concluding of deals just always depends on the circumstances. At the moment Newcastle now too well what type of players they need (I hope they do). So they can look at those players and sound them out or unsettle them. A lot is done behind the scenes. And when it's clear that the opportunity of getting one of your targets arises you have to react. Then it doesn't matter if it is January, April or June. But it shouldn't be July and only under the worst circumstances August 31st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skhwoody 0 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Sol Campbell is far better than anything we've got in that position. He'd also be a great influence on the youngsters in training working with a player of such calibre and experience. But he's over 30, so we didn't want him. Then we got Sibierski. But that is what is galling me at the moment. One minute its one comment, and then when they realise they have missed the boat its, sorry he was two inches shorter than we wanted and FF wants a team of players closer to 5'7 not 5'5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Sol Campbell is far better than anything we've got in that position. He'd also be a great influence on the youngsters in training working with a player of such calibre and experience. But he's over 30, so we didn't want him. Then we got Sibierski. Had missed too many games in the last couple of seasons too. Let's make an inquiry about Woodgate then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invicta_Toon 0 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 right, so who are we going to ring today and slap in a contract, all ready to move come the summer... I'd love to think that was for a laugh, following Renton's comments about the random shit you post. I fear that would be giving you far too much credit though Again, I would not be surprised if people took it literally. The point being, when do we start contracting players ready for the first day of the summer window? Now? In 2 months? In May? Seriously, how far forward does it have to be to be good 'planning' and getting one over on every other manager who seem to be more than able to start and complete deals inside the window. I'll accept having the players in time for the start of pre season training instead of after the season starts for a change. Exactly. That's what pissed me off about Roeder big style last summer. When he took the job one of the first things he was saying was that he couldn't even afford a holiday because he has to assemble the squad for next season. The next thing was that he was off to Turkey for a couple of weeks. Then at some time in July he said that he has to sit together with Fat Fred and draw up a list of players they should go after. The "planning" and concluding of deals just always depends on the circumstances. At the moment Newcastle now too well what type of players they need (I hope they do). So they can look at those players and sound them out or unsettle them. A lot is done behind the scenes. And when it's clear that the opportunity of getting one of your targets arises you have to react. Then it doesn't matter if it is January, April or June. But it shouldn't be July and only under the worst circumstances August 31st. so you'd be happy if Arsene Wenger started having cosy little chats with N'Zogbia in a few months time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Random! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46162 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 right, so who are we going to ring today and slap in a contract, all ready to move come the summer... I'd love to think that was for a laugh, following Renton's comments about the random shit you post. I fear that would be giving you far too much credit though Again, I would not be surprised if people took it literally. The point being, when do we start contracting players ready for the first day of the summer window? Now? In 2 months? In May? Seriously, how far forward does it have to be to be good 'planning' and getting one over on every other manager who seem to be more than able to start and complete deals inside the window. I'll accept having the players in time for the start of pre season training instead of after the season starts for a change. Exactly. That's what pissed me off about Roeder big style last summer. When he took the job one of the first things he was saying was that he couldn't even afford a holiday because he has to assemble the squad for next season. The next thing was that he was off to Turkey for a couple of weeks. Then at some time in July he said that he has to sit together with Fat Fred and draw up a list of players they should go after. The "planning" and concluding of deals just always depends on the circumstances. At the moment Newcastle now too well what type of players they need (I hope they do). So they can look at those players and sound them out or unsettle them. A lot is done behind the scenes. And when it's clear that the opportunity of getting one of your targets arises you have to react. Then it doesn't matter if it is January, April or June. But it shouldn't be July and only under the worst circumstances August 31st. so you'd be happy if Arsene Wenger started having cosy little chats with N'Zogbia in a few months time? Seriously Vic, are you doing this deliberately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skhwoody 0 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Sol Campbell is far better than anything we've got in that position. He'd also be a great influence on the youngsters in training working with a player of such calibre and experience. But he's over 30, so we didn't want him. Then we got Sibierski. Had missed too many games in the last couple of seasons too. Let's make an inquiry about Woodgate then. No lets wait until he is stood with pen in hand signing a new contract and then give him a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4ever 0 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Sol Campbell is far better than anything we've got in that position. He'd also be a great influence on the youngsters in training working with a player of such calibre and experience. But he's over 30, so we didn't want him. Then we got Sibierski. Had missed too many games in the last couple of seasons too. Let's make an inquiry about Woodgate then. I know, lets go for Huth. He doesn't have a bad knee injury requiring surgery right now does he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invicta_Toon 0 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Sol Campbell is far better than anything we've got in that position. He'd also be a great influence on the youngsters in training working with a player of such calibre and experience. But he's over 30, so we didn't want him. Then we got Sibierski. Had missed too many games in the last couple of seasons too. Let's make an inquiry about Woodgate then. has it not occured to anyone that Campbell might only be doing OK because he is not under any pressure, his last job before Pompey didn't exactly finish well did it? Playing at SJP would have undoubtedly sent him back to the looney bin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skhwoody 0 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Sol Campbell is far better than anything we've got in that position. He'd also be a great influence on the youngsters in training working with a player of such calibre and experience. But he's over 30, so we didn't want him. Then we got Sibierski. Had missed too many games in the last couple of seasons too. Let's make an inquiry about Woodgate then. has it not occured to anyone that Campbell might only be doing OK because he is not under any pressure, his last job before Pompey didn't exactly finish well did it? Playing at SJP would have undoubtedly sent him back to the looney bin No he would have twanged his hamstrings well before that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Sol Campbell is far better than anything we've got in that position. He'd also be a great influence on the youngsters in training working with a player of such calibre and experience. But he's over 30, so we didn't want him. Then we got Sibierski. Had missed too many games in the last couple of seasons too. Let's make an inquiry about Woodgate then. has it not occured to anyone that Campbell might only be doing OK because he is not under any pressure, his last job before Pompey didn't exactly finish well did it? Playing at SJP would have undoubtedly sent him back to the looney bin So, is he a headless chicken still? Or would that only be the case if he'd came here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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