Optimistic Nut 145 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Charlton have been playing the exact same system this season, with Bent up-front by himself, and Rommedahl & Thomas supporting him from the flanks. Amazing what a difference having a striker up-front who can run, can actually have on your side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 i'll criticise it no ends because i believe it is destroying the entertainment value of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut 145 Posted August 28, 2005 Author Share Posted August 28, 2005 It's not doing Charlton any harm! 6 goals away from home. Midfielders getting beyond the striker because they know they have a striker capable running with the ball, top scorer in the league, and midfielders chipping in with goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 0 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 You build a formation around the players you have in your squad - Charlton have the players to make a 4-5-1 formation work effectively. We don't. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 So why are they flying high and we are doing so shit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 people go to a game to be entertained at the end of the day, not to see 9 men behind the ball and teams trying to sniff out the odd goal, i'd take Gillespie & Ginola whipping crosses in all day long over that anyday thank you very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut 145 Posted August 28, 2005 Author Share Posted August 28, 2005 They have Bent, Rommedahl & Murphy fit and on top of their games. We have Shearer, Dyer & Jenas not fit or on top of their games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut 145 Posted August 28, 2005 Author Share Posted August 28, 2005 But when they attack it's 4 or sometimes 5 getting forward. Bent, Rommedahl, Thomas & Murphy have been brilliant to watch in their opening three games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Man City... 4-4-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 They have Bent, Rommedahl & Murphy fit and on top of their games.We have Shearer, Dyer & Jenas not fit or on top of their games. 20907[/snapback] So why on earth are we playing it then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut 145 Posted August 28, 2005 Author Share Posted August 28, 2005 Can you honestly say we'd be any better in a 4-4-2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Can you honestly say we'd be any better in a 4-4-2? 20914[/snapback] quite easily.... Shearer needs crosses into the box to be effective, due to the sad fact he's still the main man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Can you honestly say we'd be any better in a 4-4-2? 20914[/snapback] Looking at the current Premiership table and our last few performances, yes ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Can you honestly say we'd be any better in a 4-4-2? 20914[/snapback] We don`t have the players for either IMO the squad is just a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut 145 Posted August 28, 2005 Author Share Posted August 28, 2005 Playing 4-4-2 would have meant Ameobi in that side ahead of Luque, Dyer, Bowyer, Emre or Parker. IMO, that would not have made us stronger. Shearer had 2 or 3 decent chances today but still couldn't score. Once we've signed another striker, fair enough, go back to 4-4-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Playing 4-4-2 would have meant Ameobi in that side ahead of Luque, Dyer, Bowyer, Emre or Parker. IMO, that would not have made us stronger. Shearer had 2 or 3 decent chances today but still couldn't score. Once we've signed another striker, fair enough, go back to 4-4-2. 20923[/snapback] ------------ Ameobi---- Shearer---------- Luque---------------------------------Dyer --------------Emre--------Parker--------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut 145 Posted August 28, 2005 Author Share Posted August 28, 2005 That's your opinion. My opinion is that we are stronger with Bowyer in a midfield five, than with Ameobi & Shearer as a front two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 0 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 I think we need a right winger! Dyer doesnt have the discipline to stay on the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackies the Lad 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Can you honestly say we'd be any better in a 4-4-2? 20914[/snapback] We don`t have the players for either IMO the squad is just a mess. 20919[/snapback] Spot on SM, when will some of you realise we just don't have the squad to support any real tactics. Not that SOURNESS understands or can even spell the word tactics. SOURNESS has totally put the team out of balance, not to mention his suicidal ideas of playing guys when they're simply not fit. That was obvious yesterday with Dire and Emre and look who turned up in their place when they had to go off. FFSAAAAAAke its a Total F****** DIsaster!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoggeordie 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 --------------------------Given------------------ Carr--------Taylor----------------Boumsong----Babayaro --------------------------Parker--------------------------------- ---------------Bowyer/Jenas-----Emre----------------------- --Dyer-------------------------------------------------Luque-- -----------------------Owen/Shearer------------------------ Simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 The criticism from people is aimed at the fact Souness is like a little child who has seen the likes of Chelsea, Everton et al playing different formations on tv and so he decides to do the same but actually as know fuckign understanding whatsoever of what he is doing. And so his players have no ida either and we end up playing something that is neither 4-3-3, 4-5-1 or any other combination you care to choose and we become a mess. He also is stupid enough to use formations (or as close to a formation as he gets), tactics and line ups that are a waste of time if you are playing Shearer, making him and us worse. Teams like Charlton and Everton have intelligent, organised managers with distinct gameplans and tactitcs and who get the very bets out of their players. We invariably have better squads than these teams but are managed by a dick who gets the very worst out of his players by turning them into a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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