Andy 0 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Spanish football slow? 20869[/snapback] Well, yeah; you get more time on the ball in La Liga, and the general tempo of the game is completely different to that of games played in the Premiership, where the football is far more direct... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny_nufc 0 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Luque had a crap debut, fact . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 he's more consistent, good header of the ball, faster, better dribbler, left-peg is just as good He scores more goals, he's quicker, he has more flair; he's just generally a more complete player. After one game you can tell all that? Right little soothsayers and no mistake eh. Seriously I think he is a good player but how you can judge someone like that already is slightly disconcerting. Hell if we are going on a game by game basis to determine things, this weekend Robert got an assist, Luque didn't. Therefore Robert reigns supreme. Just as nonsensical as your support of Luque. 20873[/snapback] or the fact i've watched him perform over the years in La Liga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 0 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 he's more consistent, good header of the ball, faster, better dribbler, left-peg is just as good He scores more goals, he's quicker, he has more flair; he's just generally a more complete player. After one game you can tell all that? Right little soothsayers and no mistake eh. Seriously I think he is a good player but how you can judge someone like that already is slightly disconcerting. Hell if we are going on a game by game basis to determine things, this weekend Robert got an assist, Luque didn't. Therefore Robert reigns supreme. Just as nonsensical as your support of Luque. 20873[/snapback] or the fact i've watched him perform over the years in La Liga 20880[/snapback] Exactly. There is a footballing world outside of the Premiership you know, Bottled Dog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottled Dog 0 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 he's more consistent, good header of the ball, faster, better dribbler, left-peg is just as good He scores more goals, he's quicker, he has more flair; he's just generally a more complete player. After one game you can tell all that? Right little soothsayers and no mistake eh. Seriously I think he is a good player but how you can judge someone like that already is slightly disconcerting. Hell if we are going on a game by game basis to determine things, this weekend Robert got an assist, Luque didn't. Therefore Robert reigns supreme. Just as nonsensical as your support of Luque. 20873[/snapback] or the fact i've watched him perform over the years in La Liga 20880[/snapback] I have seen him play previously too. You may or may not have seen him more often but neither of us have seen him play for Newcastle before and that is primarily where my interest lies. I for one hope he is fantastic for us but I am not willing to lay down judgement on him quite yet. Nor say for certain he has surpassed Robert. /because as yet, he has not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackies the Lad 0 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 He was average, but I would expect more than average for £10 mill, TBH he needs to settle into the team, best to judge after a few games. Give him chance fellas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 I can't see why anyone is attacking Luque's performance, I don't think he was anyworse than anyone on the park, he needs time to settle in, and to become used to the Premiership. Get a grip people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emperor_k 1 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 He only arrived in the country on friday, and hasn't had any time to adjust to the premiership yet. He's probarbly still getting to know the rest of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut 188 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 he probably doesn't even know his teammates names, nevermind a chance to get to know them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottled Dog 0 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 I can't see why anyone is attacking Luque's performance, I don't think he was anyworse than anyone on the park, he needs time to settle in, and to become used to the Premiership. Get a grip people. 20887[/snapback] Or over exaggerating it indeed. I agree entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 I think Robert could have offered more. Seemed to amble around flattering to decieve - hitting the first man with his corners and totally untroubling the keeper at set pieces. Seemed to want one touch too many on a few of his more attacking moments. One decent cross admittedly - but too little too late. Jury will be firmly out on this fella till I see him a few more times. 20811[/snapback] Aren't you the very same Ugly Mackems who in the past in defence of Mssr Robert's abject performances has said that you should never judge a player one one idividual performance alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Looked as good (or bad) as most of our team. Couple of bits of individual skill but overall disappointing, he'll fit in well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46016 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 With 3 days of the transfer window left I think we'd be best selling him on straight away tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9896 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I think he was playing far too deep, but shouldn't be judged on this single performance after just spending two days with his team mates. But there is a lot room for improvement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 (edited) I think Robert could have offered more. Seemed to amble around flattering to decieve - hitting the first man with his corners and totally untroubling the keeper at set pieces. Seemed to want one touch too many on a few of his more attacking moments. One decent cross admittedly - but too little too late. Jury will be firmly out on this fella till I see him a few more times. 20811[/snapback] First impression was he started brightly, but later lacked heart. Bad sign. Oh well, thats 9.5m towards replacing Bellamy and Robert, if he doesn't do it then Shepherd is just going to have to bale out fuckwit again Edited August 29, 2005 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 "the hard-tackling, quick pace of the premiership is a far cry from the slow paced, technical style of football played in Spain..." not wrong, ther was an instance where the ref nearly picked him off the floor. Hed been clattered by a defender and loked at the ref expecting a free kick, ref more or less said, it was legal tackle, welcome the the priemership young man ! He smirked back. was a good moment ) 20867[/snapback] How much more money do you think Shepherd should back his manager with now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46016 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Jesus Christ, the lad makes his debut against Man Utd having been in the country two days. Sorry like, but now is not the time to be making judgements of him. Unless that is you're so blinded by your hatred of the manager that this just gives you something else to witter on about. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4411 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Apart from a couple of good games against Arsenal, Robert never performed against good teams - including in Europe. Luque's crime? - signed by Souness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wor Al 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Jesus Christ, the lad makes his debut against Man Utd having been in the country two days. Sorry like, but now is not the time to be making judgements of him. Unless that is you're so blinded by your hatred of the manager that this just gives you something else to witter on about. Pathetic. 21053[/snapback] good post. especially the last word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Jesus Christ, the lad makes his debut against Man Utd having been in the country two days. Sorry like, but now is not the time to be making judgements of him. Unless that is you're so blinded by your hatred of the manager that this just gives you something else to witter on about. Pathetic. 21053[/snapback] Agree. Coming from spanish footy to the prem, with no pre season or practically any training with his new team he gets thrown into his debut straight away, against one of the top teams in the prem, whilst we are in the middleof a crisis and playing shite and having little or no help in attack because of our manager/formation, the injuries etc. And people think you can judge him on this??? You don't judge any player after one game, some players do little for a season before becoming great players (Henry, Pires etc at arsenal being the best examples) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souey's P45 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Jesus Christ, the lad makes his debut against Man Utd having been in the country two days. Sorry like, but now is not the time to be making judgements of him. Unless that is you're so blinded by your hatred of the manager that this just gives you something else to witter on about. Pathetic. 21053[/snapback] Agree. Coming from spanish footy to the prem, with no pre season or practically any training with his new team he gets thrown into his debut straight away, against one of the top teams in the prem, whilst we are in the middleof a crisis and playing shite and having little or no help in attack because of our manager/formation, the injuries etc. And people think you can judge him on this??? You don't judge any player after one game, some players do little for a season before becoming great players (Henry, Pires etc at arsenal being the best examples) 21099[/snapback] Has it ever happened with a manager? Instant success is rare in this world. Working at things is how you get somewhere....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Jesus Christ, the lad makes his debut against Man Utd having been in the country two days. Sorry like, but now is not the time to be making judgements of him. Unless that is you're so blinded by your hatred of the manager that this just gives you something else to witter on about. Pathetic. 21053[/snapback] why not ? I'm not making judgements, but lacking heart is a serious flaw, of course you support the manager selling the player with the most desire and one of the biggest hearts at the club. You are so blinded by Souness's fuckwit lies propaganda you can't the nose in front of your face probably. Are you not still wittering on about giving Souness a chance ? If you have low expectations for this football, thats your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Jesus Christ, the lad makes his debut against Man Utd having been in the country two days. Sorry like, but now is not the time to be making judgements of him. Unless that is you're so blinded by your hatred of the manager that this just gives you something else to witter on about. Pathetic. 21053[/snapback] good post. especially the last word. 21071[/snapback] Omar the expert has seen Newcastle play how many times ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46016 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Jesus Christ, the lad makes his debut against Man Utd having been in the country two days. Sorry like, but now is not the time to be making judgements of him. Unless that is you're so blinded by your hatred of the manager that this just gives you something else to witter on about. Pathetic. 21053[/snapback] why not ? I'm not making judgements, but lacking heart is a serious flaw, of course you support the manager selling the player with the most desire and one of the biggest hearts at the club. You are so blinded by Souness's fuckwit lies propaganda you can't the nose in front of your face probably. Are you not still wittering on about giving Souness a chance ? If you have low expectations for this football, thats your problem. 21115[/snapback] Try addressing the issue at hand instead of wittering on about Bellamy and Robert for once. Is it right to judge Luque on 90 minutes of Premiership football? You apparently think so, I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 (edited) Jesus Christ, the lad makes his debut against Man Utd having been in the country two days. Sorry like, but now is not the time to be making judgements of him. Unless that is you're so blinded by your hatred of the manager that this just gives you something else to witter on about. Pathetic. 21053[/snapback] why not ? I'm not making judgements, but lacking heart is a serious flaw, of course you support the manager selling the player with the most desire and one of the biggest hearts at the club. You are so blinded by Souness's fuckwit lies propaganda you can't the nose in front of your face probably. Are you not still wittering on about giving Souness a chance ? If you have low expectations for this football, thats your problem. 21115[/snapback] Try addressing the issue at hand instead of wittering on about Bellamy and Robert for once. Is it right to judge Luque on 90 minutes of Premiership football? You apparently think so, I don't. 21117[/snapback] I'm not making a judgement yet. The best player I have ever seen play for Newcastle had a quiet debut, but you could still see he had talent and a heart. It is the first time I have seen Emre too and was hugely impressed as I said. Did you think Fumaca and Faye were crap after one game ? So what is wrong with making instant judgements sometimes ? I do however think it's about time you got off your high horse and found it in yourself to admit that Souness is a shit manager, and one or two good signings won't change that. If you can't do that then that is pathetic. Edited August 29, 2005 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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