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[LeazesMag 0]

I bet you still think we need to sign strikers?

 

I can just see Rio Ferdinand and John Terry now, fighting like fuck to hold onto the 0-0 draw, swamped by the opposition because the forwards and midfield players keep giving the ball away. Maybe they would improve the 4% possession we had in the Spurs last 3rd of the pitch or whatever it was last sunday.

 

I'm sure it would be money well spent at the moment.

 

 

I can just see Henry and Rooney now, twiddling their thumbs as the ball time and again rattles into the back of their net, devoid of possesion because their centre halves frantically fail to get to grips with the game at all. Maybe they would get a touch on the ball and improve on the 1-5 deficit we fell to against Birmingham, if their midfielders were able to spend more time supporting the attack instead of trying desperately to assist an ailing back four?

 

I'm sure it would be money well spent.

 

and those defenders would score as many goals as Watford if we are lucky

[The Fish 10969]

I bet you still think we need to sign strikers?

 

I can just see Rio Ferdinand and John Terry now, fighting like fuck to hold onto the 0-0 draw, swamped by the opposition because the forwards and midfield players keep giving the ball away. Maybe they would improve the 4% possession we had in the Spurs last 3rd of the pitch or whatever it was last sunday.

 

I'm sure it would be money well spent at the moment.

 

 

I can just see Henry and Rooney now, twiddling their thumbs as the ball time and again rattles into the back of their net, devoid of possesion because their centre halves frantically fail to get to grips with the game at all. Maybe they would get a touch on the ball and improve on the 1-5 deficit we fell to against Birmingham, if their midfielders were able to spend more time supporting the attack instead of trying desperately to assist an ailing back four?

 

I'm sure it would be money well spent.

 

and those defenders would score as many goals as Watford if we are lucky

 

 

and those strikers would be as stout in defence as sunderland, no doubt.

 

seriously, you can't see that defenders are the priority and while we DO need strikers we should direct our attention to the weakest area of our squad?

[gram 0]

I bet you still think we need to sign strikers?

 

I can just see Rio Ferdinand and John Terry now, fighting like fuck to hold onto the 0-0 draw, swamped by the opposition because the forwards and midfield players keep giving the ball away. Maybe they would improve the 4% possession we had in the Spurs last 3rd of the pitch or whatever it was last sunday.

 

I'm sure it would be money well spent at the moment.

 

 

I can just see Henry and Rooney now, twiddling their thumbs as the ball time and again rattles into the back of their net, devoid of possesion because their centre halves frantically fail to get to grips with the game at all. Maybe they would get a touch on the ball and improve on the 1-5 deficit we fell to against Birmingham, if their midfielders were able to spend more time supporting the attack instead of trying desperately to assist an ailing back four?

 

I'm sure it would be money well spent.

 

and those defenders would score as many goals as Watford if we are lucky

 

 

and those strikers would be as stout in defence as sunderland, no doubt.

 

seriously, you can't see that defenders are the priority and while we DO need strikers we should direct our attention to the weakest area of our squad?

Once he digs a hole he believes the best way out is to keep digging. You should know that Gejon. Don't expect much sense

[Mark 0]

We need strikers just as much as we need defenders tbh. I'd rather have a striker personally, but I don't care if we win or lose, aslong as I enjoy the game when I'm there.

[LeazesMag 0]

I bet you still think we need to sign strikers?

 

I can just see Rio Ferdinand and John Terry now, fighting like fuck to hold onto the 0-0 draw, swamped by the opposition because the forwards and midfield players keep giving the ball away. Maybe they would improve the 4% possession we had in the Spurs last 3rd of the pitch or whatever it was last sunday.

 

I'm sure it would be money well spent at the moment.

 

 

I can just see Henry and Rooney now, twiddling their thumbs as the ball time and again rattles into the back of their net, devoid of possesion because their centre halves frantically fail to get to grips with the game at all. Maybe they would get a touch on the ball and improve on the 1-5 deficit we fell to against Birmingham, if their midfielders were able to spend more time supporting the attack instead of trying desperately to assist an ailing back four?

 

I'm sure it would be money well spent.

 

and those defenders would score as many goals as Watford if we are lucky

 

 

and those strikers would be as stout in defence as sunderland, no doubt.

 

seriously, you can't see that defenders are the priority and while we DO need strikers we should direct our attention to the weakest area of our squad?

 

if you can't score goals, you go down. We still need at least 10 points to be safe and if martins is injured we will struggle to get goals.

 

Are you seriously saying you think we can go into the rest of the season with one striker ?

[Shearergol 0]

I bet you still think we need to sign strikers?

 

I can just see Rio Ferdinand and John Terry now, fighting like fuck to hold onto the 0-0 draw, swamped by the opposition because the forwards and midfield players keep giving the ball away. Maybe they would improve the 4% possession we had in the Spurs last 3rd of the pitch or whatever it was last sunday.

 

I'm sure it would be money well spent at the moment.

 

 

I can just see Henry and Rooney now, twiddling their thumbs as the ball time and again rattles into the back of their net, devoid of possesion because their centre halves frantically fail to get to grips with the game at all. Maybe they would get a touch on the ball and improve on the 1-5 deficit we fell to against Birmingham, if their midfielders were able to spend more time supporting the attack instead of trying desperately to assist an ailing back four?

 

I'm sure it would be money well spent.

 

and those defenders would score as many goals as Watford if we are lucky

 

 

and those strikers would be as stout in defence as sunderland, no doubt.

 

seriously, you can't see that defenders are the priority and while we DO need strikers we should direct our attention to the weakest area of our squad?

 

if you can't score goals, you go down. We still need at least 10 points to be safe and if martins is injured we will struggle to get goals.

 

Are you seriously saying you think we can go into the rest of the season with one striker ?

 

We've got young strikers on the bench much like we've got young defenders in the team. We need both tbh, especially a left back.

 

I'd rather we sign a defender, and get a striker in on loan.

[LeazesMag 0]

I bet you still think we need to sign strikers?

 

I can just see Rio Ferdinand and John Terry now, fighting like fuck to hold onto the 0-0 draw, swamped by the opposition because the forwards and midfield players keep giving the ball away. Maybe they would improve the 4% possession we had in the Spurs last 3rd of the pitch or whatever it was last sunday.

 

I'm sure it would be money well spent at the moment.

 

 

I can just see Henry and Rooney now, twiddling their thumbs as the ball time and again rattles into the back of their net, devoid of possesion because their centre halves frantically fail to get to grips with the game at all. Maybe they would get a touch on the ball and improve on the 1-5 deficit we fell to against Birmingham, if their midfielders were able to spend more time supporting the attack instead of trying desperately to assist an ailing back four?

 

I'm sure it would be money well spent.

 

and those defenders would score as many goals as Watford if we are lucky

 

 

and those strikers would be as stout in defence as sunderland, no doubt.

 

seriously, you can't see that defenders are the priority and while we DO need strikers we should direct our attention to the weakest area of our squad?

 

if you can't score goals, you go down. We still need at least 10 points to be safe and if martins is injured we will struggle to get goals.

 

Are you seriously saying you think we can go into the rest of the season with one striker ?

 

We've got young strikers on the bench much like we've got young defenders in the team. We need both tbh, especially a left back.

 

I'd rather we sign a defender, and get a striker in on loan.

 

of course we need both, everybody does. Why would you not buy a striker and get a defender on loan ?

[The Fish 10969]

if you can't score goals, you go down. We still need at least 10 points to be safe and if martins is injured we will struggle to get goals.

 

Are you seriously saying you think we can go into the rest of the season with one striker ?

 

If you don't concede, you don't lose. That is fact. It is irrefutable.

 

We do need a striker but I'd rather we wait until the right one is available because historically strikers cost more than Defenders and are more likely to fall short of their promise.

 

I'm saying that in Martins we have a good striker who (when playing with confidence) is a genuine match winner, but he is unable to plow a lone furrow. He DOES need a partner, I think, however, that in Sibierski, Dyer, Milner and Carrol we have four make-weights. Not nearly good enough to be a first choice striker, but good enough as a fall back.

 

When I look at our defence I don't see a good defender, I see a couple of kids with some degree of promise and the rest are makeweights.We need at least three good defenders to come in, imo. We are in desperate need for fullbacks and if we, instead, spent £9m on a striker I'd be furious. Buying a striker potentially solves one position, we're lacking in four. Defenders cost less so we could potentially solve at least two of those positions.

 

It seems logical to me to buy players that will turn losses into draws at the very least. We could have scored four goals against birmingham and we STILL would have lost because of the back four. We are incredibly lucky to have Given, if not for him we'd be relegation certainties. So quite how you could justify spending big (which we'd have to, not only because strikers cost more, but also because every one knows we're in the market for a striker) on a goal scorer when we haven't squared away the back four is, to me, a mystery.

 

I'll repeat my original point, if you don't concede, you don't lose.

[Shearergol 0]

I bet you still think we need to sign strikers?

 

I can just see Rio Ferdinand and John Terry now, fighting like fuck to hold onto the 0-0 draw, swamped by the opposition because the forwards and midfield players keep giving the ball away. Maybe they would improve the 4% possession we had in the Spurs last 3rd of the pitch or whatever it was last sunday.

 

I'm sure it would be money well spent at the moment.

 

 

I can just see Henry and Rooney now, twiddling their thumbs as the ball time and again rattles into the back of their net, devoid of possesion because their centre halves frantically fail to get to grips with the game at all. Maybe they would get a touch on the ball and improve on the 1-5 deficit we fell to against Birmingham, if their midfielders were able to spend more time supporting the attack instead of trying desperately to assist an ailing back four?

 

I'm sure it would be money well spent.

 

and those defenders would score as many goals as Watford if we are lucky

 

 

and those strikers would be as stout in defence as sunderland, no doubt.

 

seriously, you can't see that defenders are the priority and while we DO need strikers we should direct our attention to the weakest area of our squad?

 

if you can't score goals, you go down. We still need at least 10 points to be safe and if martins is injured we will struggle to get goals.

 

Are you seriously saying you think we can go into the rest of the season with one striker ?

 

We've got young strikers on the bench much like we've got young defenders in the team. We need both tbh, especially a left back.

 

I'd rather we sign a defender, and get a striker in on loan.

 

of course we need both, everybody does. Why would you not buy a striker and get a defender on loan ?

 

Because I think we've got a stronger forward line when everyone is fit than a backline. Our defenders are all piss poor, whereas our strikers are actually quite good.

[Dr Gloom 22155]

we need both forwards and defenders tbh.

[Baggio 0]

Once he digs a hole he believes the best way out is to keep digging. You should know that Gejon. Don't expect much sense

 

[LeazesMag 0]

if you can't score goals, you go down. We still need at least 10 points to be safe and if martins is injured we will struggle to get goals.

 

Are you seriously saying you think we can go into the rest of the season with one striker ?

 

If you don't concede, you don't lose. That is fact. It is irrefutable.

 

We do need a striker but I'd rather we wait until the right one is available because historically strikers cost more than Defenders and are more likely to fall short of their promise.

 

I'm saying that in Martins we have a good striker who (when playing with confidence) is a genuine match winner, but he is unable to plow a lone furrow. He DOES need a partner, I think, however, that in Sibierski, Dyer, Milner and Carrol we have four make-weights. Not nearly good enough to be a first choice striker, but good enough as a fall back.

 

When I look at our defence I don't see a good defender, I see a couple of kids with some degree of promise and the rest are makeweights.We need at least three good defenders to come in, imo. We are in desperate need for fullbacks and if we, instead, spent £9m on a striker I'd be furious. Buying a striker potentially solves one position, we're lacking in four. Defenders cost less so we could potentially solve at least two of those positions.

 

It seems logical to me to buy players that will turn losses into draws at the very least. We could have scored four goals against birmingham and we STILL would have lost because of the back four. We are incredibly lucky to have Given, if not for him we'd be relegation certainties. So quite how you could justify spending big (which we'd have to, not only because strikers cost more, but also because every one knows we're in the market for a striker) on a goal scorer when we haven't squared away the back four is, to me, a mystery.

 

I'll repeat my original point, if you don't concede, you don't lose.

 

and if you don't score, you don't win, and the best defence in the world doesn't keep clean sheets.

 

The first key to good defending is so to keep the ball away from goal and dictate the pace of the game, not allow yourself to be put under pressure by being weak in these areas.

[LeazesMag 0]

Once he digs a hole he believes the best way out is to keep digging. You should know that Gejon. Don't expect much sense

 

 

I would say its sticking to your guns when you are right.

[Shearergol 0]

Once he digs a hole he believes the best way out is to keep digging. You should know that Gejon. Don't expect much sense

 

 

I would say its sticking to your guns when you are right.

 

Yep, we're all doing it.

[Shearergol 0]

By the way, your argument that we need another striker in case Martins is injured doesn't work in this case.

 

Martins wasn't injured on Wednesday. We conceeded 5 goals. Are you actually saying that it was Sibierki's fault?

[ChezGiven 0]

If you dont concede you dont lose?

 

I've got three very big issues with that.

 

Firstly, you will come up against teams better than you who will score.

 

None of the big teams think like that, Chelsea, Man U, Arse all concede but have the striking options to beat a variety of opponents or alter their tactics accordingly.

 

Finally that attitude makes for a very boring spectacle.

 

We need a defender and we need a striker. As the whole football world values strikers higher than defenders, it will need more money on the striker to get the quality we need.

 

BTW

 

WTF has Martins being injured got to do with weds?

[The Fish 10969]

If you dont concede you dont lose?

 

I've got three very big issues with that.

 

Firstly, you will come up against teams better than you who will score.

 

None of the big teams think like that, Chelsea, Man U, Arse all concede but have the striking options to beat a variety of opponents or alter their tactics accordingly.

 

Finally that attitude makes for a very boring spectacle.

 

We need a defender and we need a striker. As the whole football world values strikers higher than defenders, it will need more money on the striker to get the quality we need.

 

BTW

 

WTF has Martins being injured got to do with weds?

 

You're right of course, when I said "If you don't concede you don't score" I obviously meant I thought that we would be able to shut out any team in the world, whenever we play them. it's a mindset, not an absolute.

 

I meant that if we stop conceding shitty stupid goals we'd have got many more points this season, is it just coincedence that typically the teams with one of the best defensive records win the league? oh and the big teams don't have that mentality?

How did Chelsea win their title? was it Arsenal-style extravagant flair football? or was it a 4-1-4-1? Which in my mind is a prettyy defensive formation.

 

Arsenal, Chelsea Liverpool all won their games with a strong back four, who gave their flair players the freedom to create and needle through the opposition.

 

The Big teams deliberately sort out their defense just so that they can have the ball more, they can giive luxury players more of it and they can afford to fit luxury players into their team.

 

the defensive 5 players of Chelsea mean that they can have Robben, Kalou, Cole, SWP, or whomever in their team. We'd have to be a hell of a lot better up front to permit the likes of Car, Babayaro, Ramage et al to retain their place.

 

Newcastle have to build from the back. It's ether spend big and maybe we find a striker that produces the goods, or spend less AND have a better chance of the defender improving our lot.

 

simple choice in my eyes.

 

3 of the last 4 big money signings have been strikers, one is long term injured, one is never going to play for the club and the other is just coming good after struggling with niggly injuries most season. We've been playing a tackle happy poor mans Griffin at right back, a left back who 1) doesn't know what he's doing and 2) doesn't care. We've been playing children at the back. While some of them have handled themselves well, they're still some way from being good enough.

[Gejon 2]

Agree with the water based one.

Edited January 20, 2007 by Gejon

[Gejon 2]

Chelsea's current woes show how much they have relied on the defence in the past tbh

[Invicta_Toon 0]

Chelsea's current woes show how much they have relied on the defence in the past tbh

 

no it shows their so called super manager hasn't got a clue when hasn't got the world's best players at his disposal

[Park Life 71]

Chelsea's current woes show how much they have relied on the defence in the past tbh

 

no it shows their so called super manager hasn't got a clue when hasn't got the world's best players at his disposal

 

That's is cobblers Victoria.

[Invicta_Toon 0]

Chelsea's current woes show how much they have relied on the defence in the past tbh

 

no it shows their so called super manager hasn't got a clue when hasn't got the world's best players at his disposal

 

That's is cobblers Victoria.

 

no. it is not. It stands up to every possible scrutiny. Take that and party

[Gejon 2]

Strikers would have stopped both of these goals so far going in today

[Invicta_Toon 0]

Strikers would have stopped both of these goals so far going in today

 

be 5-2 by now man FFS

[Shearergol 0]

Chelsea's current woes show how much they have relied on the defence in the past tbh

 

no it shows their so called super manager hasn't got a clue when hasn't got the world's best players at his disposal

 

Three right backs and a left back in defence for them today. Why didn't their strikers stop Liverpool scoring twice?