Tooj 17 Posted December 5, 2009 Author Share Posted December 5, 2009 You've got to love people who take comedy far too seriously like. To be fair Jonny, he's made a living by stealing other peoples material. Wouldn't you hold a musician or a novelist accountable for plagiarism? Why not a comedian? End of the day comedy is a business like most others and stealing a joke is the same as stealing a song. It isn't really though is it? How is comedy business different from music business? Like I said stealing a joke is the same as any other form of plagiarism. The music business has more mass appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10858 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 You've got to love people who take comedy far too seriously like. To be fair Jonny, he's made a living by stealing other peoples material. Wouldn't you hold a musician or a novelist accountable for plagiarism? Why not a comedian? End of the day comedy is a business like most others and stealing a joke is the same as stealing a song. It isn't really though is it? How is comedy business different from music business? Like I said stealing a joke is the same as any other form of plagiarism. The music business has more mass appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tom 14011 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 tbh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 You've got to love people who take comedy far too seriously like. To be fair Jonny, he's made a living by stealing other peoples material. Wouldn't you hold a musician or a novelist accountable for plagiarism? Why not a comedian? End of the day comedy is a business like most others and stealing a joke is the same as stealing a song. It isn't really though is it? How is comedy business different from music business? Like I said stealing a joke is the same as any other form of plagiarism. The talent in comedy is more about the delivery than the content IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 But what use is good delivery if the content is poor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 But what use is good delivery if the content is poor? True, you can't polish a turd... but you know what I was getting at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10858 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 The talent in comedy is more about the delivery than the content IMO. That's a fair opinion, some music acts are very very good at delivering someone elses lines, Pavarotti off the top of my head. But he never claimed to write Nessum Dorma Comedians are more closely tied to their performance than the music acts who don't write their own stuff. Some of the best comedy isn't performed by their author "In the thick of it" springs to mind... but Stand up should be your own work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Yeah you do get people who can tell the same joke better than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7033 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Regardless of who he nicked his jokes off, its the first time ive heard any of them Thats what I pay my money for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10858 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 oh, so now you're condoning theft? Nice u-turn there Straight Edge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7033 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Whats being straight edge got to do with theft? And wheres the U turn? Get a clue Blazer boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10858 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 occasionally it's so easy it's not fun... Today's not one of those days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7033 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Whey aye! That get out only works so many times before it just makes you look stupider Fish. For a man so into his comedy youre about as funny as cancer tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10858 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Whey aye! That get out only works so many times before it just makes you look stupider Fish. For a man so into his comedy youre about as funny as cancer tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30631 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 (edited) Better watch yourself Fish. http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2007/12/21/6...ag_thief_claims The original allegation: Ever wondered why the mild-mannered Noel Fielding tried to punch the compere at a charity gig a while ago? Because the compere was Peter Kay, who has finally been exposed as the most hated man on the comedy circuit. Stories have been reaching HM all week about the tricks Peter will pull in order to clamber to the top of the funnyman pole. When he acts as compere, he deliberately tightens the microphone stand as much as he can, then he announces the next comedian and watches as the comic struggles with the stand, attempting to bring it back up to human height rather than Peter height, making themselves look like amateurs. He will also introduce acts with the words: "Don't worry if the next act's shit, I'll be back on in a minute," a comment which made Fielding want to beat Peter's haircut right off his head. He has paid damages to other acts as compensation for stealing their material, but mostly he fobs off the comedians who complain about his pilfering by telling them that he tells the jokes better anyway. This has led to the comedy circuit giving him the nickname 'The Gag-Pie' as he steals anything comedic that glitters. Edited December 6, 2009 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Peter Kay's standup isn't very funny tbh. Phoenix Nights was brilliant though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7033 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 My point is, it was when he did it. It was very funny. But yes, 8 years of hearing the same jokes takes the shine off them. Im sure this tour will be full of new material though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 My point is, it was when he did it. It was very funny. But yes, 8 years of hearing the same jokes takes the shine off them. Im sure this tour will be full of new material though Love Phoenix Nights, but he's done nowt to suggest he's got any other strings to his bow. Max and paddy was shit and 'crap pop' can only go so far. I'm sure he'll mention "garlic bread" and push lots of merchandise. A lass at work said it was £44 for a ticket His stand up had become catchphrase comedy as unimaginative as Little Britain. Also, it was embarrassing watching him hawk tickets on Children in Need, and pushing his merchandise on the promise of £1 from each item going to charity. The audience didn't know whether to applaud or boo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7033 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Im struggling to see Peter Kay as the cunt Fish is portraying him as like. The fat bloke from Bolton, who took 5 years off to spend with his family, who is still best mates with Paddy and that lass off Corrie. The bloke that has made a shit load of money for charity and is about as far removed from a 'superstar' as you can get. Just dont see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Im struggling to see Peter Kay as the cunt Fish is portraying him as like. The fat bloke from Bolton, who took 5 years off to spend with his family, who is still best mates with Paddy and that lass off Corrie. The bloke that has made a shit load of money for charity and is about as far removed from a 'superstar' as you can get. Just dont see it? The bitterness oozing from Fish with regards to P.Kay is very similar to yours regarding the iphone, does this clarify things for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 My point is, it was when he did it. It was very funny. But yes, 8 years of hearing the same jokes takes the shine off them. Im sure this tour will be full of new material though Love Phoenix Nights, but he's done nowt to suggest he's got any other strings to his bow. Max and paddy was shit and 'crap pop' can only go so far. I'm sure he'll mention "garlic bread" and push lots of merchandise. A lass at work said it was £44 for a ticket His stand up had become catchphrase comedy as unimaginative as Little Britain. Also, it was embarrassing watching him hawk tickets on Children in Need, and pushing his merchandise on the promise of £1 from each item going to charity. The audience didn't know whether to applaud or boo. That's pretty much it like. Loved his stand-up but, like you say, it's never changed. Loved 'That Peter Kay Thing' and 'Phoenix Nights' but 'Max and Paddy' was canny shite. I've heard it said that Dave Spikey was the real talent although he's done nothing of note on his own either. Maybe they should get back toegther. Or maybe they're both one-trick ponies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Im struggling to see Peter Kay as the cunt Fish is portraying him as like. The fat bloke from Bolton, who took 5 years off to spend with his family, who is still best mates with Paddy and that lass off Corrie. The bloke that has made a shit load of money for charity and is about as far removed from a 'superstar' as you can get. Just dont see it? Teetotaller as well iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Im struggling to see Peter Kay as the cunt Fish is portraying him as like. The fat bloke from Bolton, who took 5 years off to spend with his family, who is still best mates with Paddy and that lass off Corrie. The bloke that has made a shit load of money for charity and is about as far removed from a 'superstar' as you can get. Just dont see it? Neil Fitzmaurice spoke of his dissatisfaction with Kay taking sole credit when he left their names off the script book for Phoenix Nights. “I can only presume they took out all the bits Neil (sic) and I wrote,” Fitzmaurice said. Kay was also nominated for a book prize alone. Fitzmaurice added "The only way I can explain it is that people are affected by fame in different ways. It was basically about a lack of respect, a lack of recognition for me and Dave." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7033 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Im struggling to see Peter Kay as the cunt Fish is portraying him as like. The fat bloke from Bolton, who took 5 years off to spend with his family, who is still best mates with Paddy and that lass off Corrie. The bloke that has made a shit load of money for charity and is about as far removed from a 'superstar' as you can get. Just dont see it? The bitterness oozing from Fish with regards to P.Kay is very similar to yours regarding the iphone, does this clarify things for you? But it amuses me that everyone keeps arguing back, More money than sense tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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