Global Warming

[Renton 22008]

I was reading the weather stats on the back of the Sunday Times and the top temperature last week was 15 degrees celcius in Aberdeen. That's a canny day up there in June tbh.

 

It was 10C in Rekjavik on Christmas day and it's been balmy in Russia. Animals aren't bothering hibernating, ski slopes are closing, and I've got daffodils in my garden. Still, no point in worrying about something that might never happen.

[Guest alex]

Lifted from QI but why do British people (generally) use Celcius when it's cold and Fahrenheit when it's hot?

[Renton 22008]

Lifted from QI but why do British people (generally) use Celcius when it's cold and Fahrenheit when it's hot?

 

I only ever use Celsius personally. I thought it was more a generational thing. Oh, and the stupid yanks persist with their imperial (US) measurements.

 

Besides, is 10C cold or hot in this context?

[Guest alex]

Lifted from QI but why do British people (generally) use Celcius when it's cold and Fahrenheit when it's hot?

 

I only ever use Celsius personally. I thought it was more a generational thing. Oh, and the stupid yanks persist with their imperial (US) measurements.

 

Besides, is 10C cold or hot in this context?

In between. It is more of a generational thing but my Mam, for example wouldn't use Fahrenheit if it was cold, i.e. should would say -5 rather than 20-odd degrees (or whatever it is). It's not just the Yanks though is it? We use pints (especially for beer); feet and inches; stones and lbs and miles a lot more than the metric equivalents too.

[Renton 22008]

Lifted from QI but why do British people (generally) use Celcius when it's cold and Fahrenheit when it's hot?

 

I only ever use Celsius personally. I thought it was more a generational thing. Oh, and the stupid yanks persist with their imperial (US) measurements.

 

Besides, is 10C cold or hot in this context?

In between. It is more of a generational thing but my Mam, for example wouldn't use Fahrenheit if it was cold, i.e. should would say -5 rather than 20-odd degrees (or whatever it is). It's not just the Yanks though is it? We use pints (especially for beer); feet and inches; stones and lbs and miles a lot more than the metric equivalents too.

 

True, but the yanks use imperial for everything. For instance, we use cm and mm for small measurements, they use decimal inches. And we are gradually changing, for instance we now use litres for petrol and not gallons, and grams are gradually replacing pounds and ounces. In the US, they are completely resistant to change, and worse still, their imperial measurements are different to ours!

 

Anyway, to answer your point, I think Fahrenheit is particularly confusing at lower temperatures. With Celsius, you know 0C is literally freezing. But with Fahrenheit this is 32F. Things get worse when you go into negative temperatures. What does -10F mean?

[Guest alex]

Aye, an American gallon is 128 fluid oz (iirc) whereas it's 160 (or 8 pints) here. The Imperial System makes little sense though, I agree, epsecially when people have been taught the metric one in school for years now.

[manc-mag 1]

Wor lass can't pronounce her 'th's, the git spaz, they come out as 'f's so the second line of the thread title made me laugh. Can anyone take anyone with a speech impediment (however intelligent) seriously? I think not.

[Renton 22008]

Wor lass can't pronounce her 'th's, the git spaz, they come out as 'f's so the second line of the thread title made me laugh. Can anyone take anyone with a speech impediment (however intelligent) seriously? I think not.

 

I'm the same actually, I don't think it's a speech impediment though, I can't even hear the difference.. Global warming is not a miff I reckon.

[manc-mag 1]

Wor lass can't pronounce her 'th's, the git spaz, they come out as 'f's so the second line of the thread title made me laugh. Can anyone take anyone with a speech impediment (however intelligent) seriously? I think not.

 

I'm the same actually, I don't think it's a speech impediment though, I can't even hear the difference.. Global warming is not a miff I reckon.

 

It's a fucking impediment to me taking you (or her) seriously, you pair of mongs!

[Renton 22008]

Wor lass can't pronounce her 'th's, the git spaz, they come out as 'f's so the second line of the thread title made me laugh. Can anyone take anyone with a speech impediment (however intelligent) seriously? I think not.

 

I'm the same actually, I don't think it's a speech impediment though, I can't even hear the difference.. Global warming is not a miff I reckon.

 

It's a fucking impediment to me taking you (or her) seriously, you pair of mongs!

 

Racist! It's cos of my irish ancestory you fick manc twat!

[Howaythetoon 0]

I think the climate is far more unpredictable these days for sure. Last January in Newcastle it was cold and we had snow, this year it has been warmer, no snow so far, but much more windy and more rain. Less icy too and less fog/frost.

[manc-mag 1]

I think the climate is far more unpredictable these days for sure. Last January in Newcastle it was cold and we had snow, this year it has been warmer, no snow so far, but much more windy and more rain. Less icy too and less fog/frost.

 

"Sometimes the snow comes down in June (fact), sometimes the sun goes round the moooOOooOOoon (bollocks)!"

 

tbh. *David Brent* Lyrical!

 

fuck I shouldnt have had that 4th pint. #

[luckyluke 2]

Lifted from QI but why do British people (generally) use Celcius when it's cold and Fahrenheit when it's hot?

 

I only ever use Celsius personally. I thought it was more a generational thing. Oh, and the stupid yanks persist with their imperial (US) measurements.

 

Besides, is 10C cold or hot in this context?

In between. It is more of a generational thing but my Mam, for example wouldn't use Fahrenheit if it was cold, i.e. should would say -5 rather than 20-odd degrees (or whatever it is).

 

For emphasis maybe? -5 degrees © sounds colder than 20 degrees (F), and 90 degrees (F) sounds hotter than 30 (or whatever) degrees ©.

[Invicta_Toon 0]

been windier in the past and snow is late this year - one days weather proves nowt

 

It scertainly been getting warmer and stormier over the past 15 years ON AVERAGE

 

Yeah, that's true.

 

However, part of the effects of climate change is that we will experience sudden bouts of extreme weather, just like yesterday's. Also, the seasons will become less predictable and the weather more random, although you'd obviously expect some weather like that at this time of year, it might well happen in the middle of summer or at any other time of year. We had some snow last summer, for example.

 

I'd agree but it's been blowing a gale up here for 3 weeks

[shakermaker 0]

it's not just the weather and it's effects that we can see as there are those that will point to other bouts of freakish weather and other times when the world has been warm etc,but thinking beyond it aswell.we can use science and our knowladge to try and predict what will happen with increasing levels of CO2 in the atmosphere or with a depleting O-zone,in the same way we don't need to flood the drinking water supply with arsenic to work out what the results would be.right now enough climatologists are saying that things are looking bad that we ought to be taking steps to try and bring it under control...........and it can't be a good sign when people are picking fresh blackberries in december at brockbushes.

 

 

 

 

 

on the other hand it's reckoned we could lose 6mile off our coastline???it would mean losing warkworth,bamburgh etc but we'd be rid of sunderland......pass the aerosol!!!!

[@yourservice 67]

Baseball anyone?

[Rob W 0]

it's not just the weather and it's effects that we can see as there are those that will point to other bouts of freakish weather and other times when the world has been warm etc,but thinking beyond it aswell.we can use science and our knowladge to try and predict what will happen with increasing levels of CO2 in the atmosphere or with a depleting O-zone,in the same way we don't need to flood the drinking water supply with arsenic to work out what the results would be.right now enough climatologists are saying that things are looking bad that we ought to be taking steps to try and bring it under control...........and it can't be a good sign when people are picking fresh blackberries in december at brockbushes.

 

 

 

 

 

on the other hand it's reckoned we could lose 6mile off our coastline???it would mean losing warkworth,bamburgh etc but we'd be rid of sunderland......pass the aerosol!!!!

 

 

that 6 miles is E Anglia and Yorkshire; plus the Thames estuary. We already lose a lot of land along those areas right now. The west side of Britain is still rising due to rebound after the end of the ice age but the east side........ probably mean that the low areas in Walker and Jarra are at risk in the NE but that's about it for a millenia or so

[Guest stevieintoon]

We're fucked

 

I've just watched David Attenborough's documentary tonight about the biggest survey on global warming ever conducted, and that is the only conclusion I can arrive at.

 

It doesn't matter what we do now, temperatures will rise in this country 1.5 degree celcius in 13 years time. 13 years sounds a long time ago, think of it in football terms, 13 years ago we were coming third in the Premiership with Cole and Beardsley up front. That seems like yesterday to me, and these 13 years will fly by. Eco systems are collapsing all over the world, I used to bury my head in the sand and think "ah it'll be areet" but it won't, we're fucked.

 

What Attenborough said though is, if we do something now, we can slow and in time reverse global warming if we do something now, but unless India, China, and the yanks do something now, whatever we do won't make any difference at all, and the three of them are all cunts, in their relentless pursuit of being the world's dominant nation.

 

By 2080 temperatures will rise by at least 4 degrees and sea level could rise 7m. Whitley Bay will probably be gone, Wallsend will be the coast, Jarrow, Hebburn just gone, nee loss there mind, Sunderland will be gone almost completely. Of the clubs in the Premiership, Charlton, West Ham, Fulham, Chelsea, Pompey, just gone. Honest I reckon it's ganna be like Mars within 300 year, and it's all our fault, there's no way of stopping it now. All these African countries like Nigeria (who's population will treble in 40 years), aren't going to fuck about with eco-friendly energy, when fossil fuels are a cheaper alternative, we're fucked. There's too many people living on earth now, never mind in 50 years time, if I sound like a depressing c**t the neet, that's how I feel. Everything is fucked, life has went doon hill massively in the last 15 years, we were better off in the 50's when no c**t had anything and the Cold War meant at least we could see our enemy coming.

 

I wish I hadn't have watched this show to be honest.

[Lazarus 0]

C-wordtastic.

[Rob W 0]

DON'T PANIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Renton 22008]

We're fucked

 

I've just watched David Attenborough's documentary tonight about the biggest survey on global warming ever conducted, and that is the only conclusion I can arrive at.

 

It doesn't matter what we do now, temperatures will rise in this country 1.5 degree celcius in 13 years time. 13 years sounds a long time ago, think of it in football terms, 13 years ago we were coming third in the Premiership with Cole and Beardsley up front. That seems like yesterday to me, and these 13 years will fly by. Eco systems are collapsing all over the world, I used to bury my head in the sand and think "ah it'll be areet" but it won't, we're fucked.

 

What Attenborough said though is, if we do something now, we can slow and in time reverse global warming if we do something now, but unless India, China, and the yanks do something now, whatever we do won't make any difference at all, and the three of them are all cunts, in their relentless pursuit of being the world's dominant nation.

 

By 2080 temperatures will rise by at least 4 degrees and sea level could rise 7m. Whitley Bay will probably be gone, Wallsend will be the coast, Jarrow, Hebburn just gone, nee loss there mind, Sunderland will be gone almost completely. Of the clubs in the Premiership, Charlton, West Ham, Fulham, Chelsea, Pompey, just gone. Honest I reckon it's ganna be like Mars within 300 year, and it's all our fault, there's no way of stopping it now. All these African countries like Nigeria (who's population will treble in 40 years), aren't going to fuck about with eco-friendly energy, when fossil fuels are a cheaper alternative, we're fucked. There's too many people living on earth now, never mind in 50 years time, if I sound like a depressing c**t the neet, that's how I feel. Everything is fucked, life has went doon hill massively in the last 15 years, we were better off in the 50's when no c**t had anything and the Cold War meant at least we could see our enemy coming.

 

I wish I hadn't have watched this show to be honest.

 

 

Didn't see it, but I do know nobody can predict this with any certainty, so sounds like a worst case scenario. Regards overpopulation, the population is now stabilizing to an extent. And Malthus got it wrong, didn't he? Oh, and we're mor likely to get like Venus than Mars in 300 years.

[Rob W 0]

the cliffs at Whitley are well over 7 m TBH

 

 

some of the denes will flood like at Seaton Sluice - and along the river Jarra and Walker would go but the main loss would be the Qauyside, the bottom floor of the Baltic and N Shields Fish Quay

 

and it could all be saved by building a dam across the river between N Shields & S Shields - the Dutch would do it for us in about 6 months

[Guest stevieintoon]

the cliffs at Whitley are well over 7 m TBH

 

 

some of the denes will flood like at Seaton Sluice - and along the river Jarra and Walker would go but the main loss would be the Qauyside, the bottom floor of the Baltic and N Shields Fish Quay

 

and it could all be saved by building a dam across the river between N Shields & S Shields - the Dutch would do it for us in about 6 months

There's nee way the Leisure Centre is 7m above sea level. The Dutch will be arselicking the krauts in 20 years time for somewhere to live.

[Rob W 0]

the cliffs at Whitley are well over 7 m TBH

 

 

some of the denes will flood like at Seaton Sluice - and along the river Jarra and Walker would go but the main loss would be the Qauyside, the bottom floor of the Baltic and N Shields Fish Quay

 

and it could all be saved by building a dam across the river between N Shields & S Shields - the Dutch would do it for us in about 6 months

There's nee way the Leisure Centre is 7m above sea level. The Dutch will be arselicking the krauts in 20 years time for somewhere to live.

 

 

according to my Ordnance Survey map the 10 m contour runs right along the front at Whitley Bay - the Briardene would flood but that's about it

 

http://uk.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?clie...amp;scale=10000

 

 

Royal Quays look a bit dodgy as well - the Bergen boats will dock in Percy Main; Most of Walker is OK

[Renton 22008]

I watched this program last night and I'm pretty sure the predicted rise in sea level was only around 1 metre by 2080. It was after this point that the real concerns arise. If the Greenland ice plateau melts that's when we will see the 6 metre rise, but as Rob points out places like Whitley Bay are above this. Loads of other places would disappear though, including the Fens which provide us with a lot of agriculture.

 

The real worry is what could happen after this, as there could be a positive feedback loop (vicious circle) which could completely fuck the planet. More heat means more ice melting, which means less sunlight is reflected, which means more heat. Add this to the release of methane locked in the Siberian tundra and the destruction of the Amazon and you have an apocalyptic scenario. The fact that it won't happen in my life time is of little comfort tbh.

 

On an unrelated note, did anyone see that Dramdoc about Klaus Fuchs last night? Superb, why I don't mind paying my license fee.