Park Life 71 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Didn't Glenda say he'd quit if any of our players got banned for racism? Not quite. http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/newcast...-name_page.html He said "I grew up with black people and black players. If I ever had the feeling that any of the players here were racist, I wouldn't stay at Newcastle. "What we need to do if a person is found guilty of racist abuse is to come down hard, really hard. "I am not talking about three, six or 10 games. If it's proven someone has racially abused another player, we cut them out, take them out for six months or a season. Take them out lock stock. "I am very, very strong on this." though. And for the record, I don't think Emre is a racist. He's just a hot blooded idiot. He's TURKISH ffs!! Irony. I think they're making a meal out of it and I agree with Ise he has a tempestous nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth Operator 10 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 And for the record, I don't think Emre is a racist. He's just a hot blooded idiot. Agreed. His apparent friendship with Martins is an obvious reason to suggest calling him a racist would be unfair. However, I don't give a fuck what mood you're in, how "hot" or "cold" blooded you are, what someone has done to you, there is simply no place for racist comments, anywhere and at any time. So if he's truly guilty, then I'd be happy to never see him play for NUFC right now tbh. My mate tells racist jokes, but he's not a racist. I'm sure you've laughed at a few racist jokes in the past, doesn't matter what race it is. Aye and you take it up the arse off your lass but it doesn't make you a batty boy either does it. Keep teliing yourself that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10017 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 "Well, Emre didn't really want to insult Tim Howard. He just contracted a disease by getting too close to him." [/Lionel Hutz] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth Operator 10 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Who was he supposed to have abused again? Tim Howard? Struggling to comprehend what he could have said to him to warrant a six game ban. Probably called him an Infidel or something. Little Turkish terrorist loving dwarf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Who was he supposed to have abused again? Tim Howard? Struggling to comprehend what he could have said to him to warrant a six game ban. Tim Howard apparantly has a black father, he's not particularly half-caste though. (is that word PC these days? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Who was he supposed to have abused again? Tim Howard? Struggling to comprehend what he could have said to him to warrant a six game ban. Tim Howard apparantly has a black father, he's not particularly half-caste though. (is that word PC these days? ) Mixed race is the word your looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Who was he supposed to have abused again? Tim Howard? Struggling to comprehend what he could have said to him to warrant a six game ban. Tim Howard apparantly has a black father, he's not particularly half-caste though. (is that word PC these days? ) If Tim Howard isn't half-caste then I'm as black as Wesley Snipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Who was he supposed to have abused again? Tim Howard? Struggling to comprehend what he could have said to him to warrant a six game ban. Tim Howard apparantly has a black father, he's not particularly half-caste though. (is that word PC these days? ) Ahh I see. And no it isn't, although I have heard several people of such an appearence describe themselves that way. Again, some pencil pushing middle class white person has been offended on their behalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Who was he supposed to have abused again? Tim Howard? Struggling to comprehend what he could have said to him to warrant a six game ban. Tim Howard apparantly has a black father, he's not particularly half-caste though. (is that word PC these days? ) If Tim Howard isn't half-caste then I'm as black as Wesley Snipes. He's white here: Yet 'mixed race', whatever, here: How strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Make up, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Who was he supposed to have abused again? Tim Howard? Struggling to comprehend what he could have said to him to warrant a six game ban. Tim Howard apparantly has a black father, he's not particularly half-caste though. (is that word PC these days? ) If Tim Howard isn't half-caste then I'm as black as Wesley Snipes. He's white here: Yet 'mixed race', whatever, here: How strange. Lights, colour balance, photoshop...Take yer pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li3nZ 1 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 I knew signing a stupid fucking Turk was a mistake, the little racist rascal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15869 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Ear Parade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Bridge 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 And for the record, I don't think Emre is a racist. He's just a hot blooded idiot. Agreed. His apparent friendship with Martins is an obvious reason to suggest calling him a racist would be unfair. However, I don't give a fuck what mood you're in, how "hot" or "cold" blooded you are, what someone has done to you, there is simply no place for racist comments, anywhere and at any time. So if he's truly guilty, then I'd be happy to never see him play for NUFC right now tbh. My mate tells racist jokes, but he's not a racist. I'm sure you've laughed at a few racist jokes in the past, doesn't matter what race it is. Aye and you take it up the arse off your lass but it doesn't make you a batty boy either does it. Keep teliing yourself that! Fuck off you wog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BooBoo 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 I wonder how many times during his time in England Emre has been called a "Turkish bastard" by opponents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Be interesting to see what punishment he gets from Roeder now that he's been found guilty, he said he would come down heavy on any players found to be racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 And nowt happens to the player who apparantly called Nobby a Paki? Aye, thought not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 If he is charged, then the club's obvious option (unless they can find a buyer straight away) is to terminate his contract and seek compensation- in the same way that Chelsea did with Mutu. On his wages, we could expect a similar amount to what we'd get in the market for him. I'd be very surprised if this is not stipulated in the contract as gross misconduct. It's a route we could easily have taken with Bowyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 And nowt happens to the player who apparantly called Nobby a Paki? Aye, thought not. Nobby didn't press charges or anything though did he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themags 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 is this the bullshit charge that stems from some fans behind the goal complaining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capo 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Be interesting to see what punishment he gets from Roeder now that he's been found guilty, he said he would come down heavy on any players found to be racist He hasnt been found guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 If he is charged, then the club's obvious option (unless they can find a buyer straight away) is to terminate his contract and seek compensation- in the same way that Chelsea did with Mutu. On his wages, we could expect a similar amount to what we'd get in the market for him. I'd be very surprised if this is not stipulated in the contract as gross misconduct. It's a route we could easily have taken with Bowyer. That sounds like it would require some level of competence and planning, so might not be likely we'll do it! As for the incident itself, these things are always a bit dubious if it comes down to the word of one person against another/others. And whilst they may be telling the truth, the word of some Everton fans would'nt be enough to convice me of anyones guilt whether they be a toon player or any other team. If however they can categorically prove he did it then he deserves to be punished for it. I'm inclined to agree with Isegrim that he's not racist but is hot tempred and stupid and if he has said anything its for that reason. Still needs to be punished whatever the reason though, if they can prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffer 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Hopefully roeder will resign over this storm in a teacup. That would be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li3nZ 1 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 I wonder how many times during his time in England Emre has been called a "Turkish bastard" by opponents? Was Emre playing for Turkey at the most recent International at the Stadium of Shite (Qualifier) We hammered them from whistle to whistle and there were hundreds of supporters chanting "I'd rather be a paki than a Turk" I don't think there were any repercussions from the police or the FA at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 If he is charged, then the club's obvious option (unless they can find a buyer straight away) is to terminate his contract and seek compensation- in the same way that Chelsea did with Mutu. On his wages, we could expect a similar amount to what we'd get in the market for him. I'd be very surprised if this is not stipulated in the contract as gross misconduct. It's a route we could easily have taken with Bowyer. That sounds like it would require some level of competence and planning, so might not be likely we'll do it! As for the incident itself, these things are always a bit dubious if it comes down to the word of one person against another/others. And whilst they may be telling the truth, the word of some Everton fans would'nt be enough to convice me of anyones guilt whether they be a toon player or any other team. If however they can categorically prove he did it then he deserves to be punished for it. I'm inclined to agree with Isegrim that he's not racist but is hot tempred and stupid and if he has said anything its for that reason. Still needs to be punished whatever the reason though, if they can prove it. Christ if only these prissy idiots at the F.A. knew what happens in Turkish football. Emre imo is clearly not racist. He exhibits all the things I like in a player and all the things I don't like. The main thing is that he wants to win and is a real trier and is showing a real feeling for our club. I can't help but feel there is some element of mischief here on the Everton side. If Bez said something out of line in the heat of the moment then he should take a ban, end of story. He doesn't seem like the type of player who goes 'looking for it' on the pitch and knowing a bit about his background I know he genuinely loves the game. The other side of this matter of course is the new 'race relations' atmosphere that has crept into football which includes the way supporters are judged as well. There is no place for racism in football. Genuine racists are people you can't help but laugh at when you meet as they are so out of touch with reality it's pretty much insanity. There is no comparison imo with these types whether they be players or supporters and there are some 'real' racist players in the game and the kind of heat of the moment stupidity which is all Emre is guilty of. I'm sure Emre himself being Turkish has been on the other side of the fence during his career, definately during his time in SerieA which has some of the worst racism in Euro football on and off the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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