Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Yeah but I doubt we will be rushed into making a decision that early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44114 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 not interested unless he can play left back so you would turn John Terry down If he was going to cost 30million at least then yes, i would. are you mad ? Who said owt about 30m quid ????? Danthebrain said he only wants to sign a left back, but he's been coming out with tripe since August - and probably earlier.... As Dan's not here to explain himself, let me explain his fairly obvious point to you. What he was saying was that he would sign a 21 year old to play left-back, but that at centre-half what we need is experience, not another kid that's barely out of nappies. Think before you jump down people's throats and talk shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gram 0 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 not interested unless he can play left back so you would turn John Terry down If he was going to cost 30million at least then yes, i would. are you mad ? Who said owt about 30m quid ????? Danthebrain said he only wants to sign a left back, but he's been coming out with tripe since August - and probably earlier.... As Dan's not here to explain himself, let me explain his fairly obvious point to you. What he was saying was that he would sign a 21 year old to play left-back, but that at centre-half what we need is experience, not another kid that's barely out of nappies. Think before you jump down people's throats and talk shit. Pretty obvious what Dan was saying. Accurate too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffer 0 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Despite the new contract, I hope roeder has sounded out mourhino about Bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3342 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Despite the new contract, I hope roeder has sounded out mourhino about Bridge. Fuck that. Despite the new contract I hope the fat man has sounded out mourhino for our managers job. Pole position (again) tbh. Remember that year in the early 80s when Renault's F1 team was in pole position almost every round only to DNF somewhere between the start of the race and the 3rd lap? Our transfer policy tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 not interested unless he can play left back so you would turn John Terry down If he was going to cost 30million at least then yes, i would. are you mad ? Who said owt about 30m quid ????? Danthebrain said he only wants to sign a left back, but he's been coming out with tripe since August - and probably earlier.... As Dan's not here to explain himself, let me explain his fairly obvious point to you. What he was saying was that he would sign a 21 year old to play left-back, but that at centre-half what we need is experience, not another kid that's barely out of nappies. Think before you jump down people's throats and talk shit. its fairly obvious what I was saying too Gem, that Danthebrain has been saying all season - which is utter shite - he thinks we should buy a left back before a striker, despite it being pointed out to him we have a fairly decent defensive record, the trouble is scoring goals, and if Martins is injured we will have nobody, having lost Owen, Shearer and Bellamy over the last 2 years. Maybe we should look for the new Malcolm Macdonald, who can score goals but also started his career as a left back, I'm sure there must be someone like that around somewhere, Fred should get off his arse and find him eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44114 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 not interested unless he can play left back so you would turn John Terry down If he was going to cost 30million at least then yes, i would. are you mad ? Who said owt about 30m quid ????? Danthebrain said he only wants to sign a left back, but he's been coming out with tripe since August - and probably earlier.... As Dan's not here to explain himself, let me explain his fairly obvious point to you. What he was saying was that he would sign a 21 year old to play left-back, but that at centre-half what we need is experience, not another kid that's barely out of nappies. Think before you jump down people's throats and talk shit. its fairly obvious what I was saying too Gem, that Danthebrain has been saying all season - which is utter shite - he thinks we should buy a left back before a striker, despite it being pointed out to him we have a fairly decent defensive record, the trouble is scoring goals, and if Martins is injured we will have nobody, having lost Owen, Shearer and Bellamy over the last 2 years. Maybe we should look for the new Malcolm Macdonald, who can score goals but also started his career as a left back, I'm sure there must be someone like that around somewhere, Fred should get off his arse and find him eh Fucking hell, can you respond to what people are saying here and now, or do you constantly have to refer back to a post someone made 6 months ago? What he said in this thread made perfect sense. Now either respond to that or fuck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 not interested unless he can play left back so you would turn John Terry down If he was going to cost 30million at least then yes, i would. are you mad ? Who said owt about 30m quid ????? Danthebrain said he only wants to sign a left back, but he's been coming out with tripe since August - and probably earlier.... As Dan's not here to explain himself, let me explain his fairly obvious point to you. What he was saying was that he would sign a 21 year old to play left-back, but that at centre-half what we need is experience, not another kid that's barely out of nappies. Think before you jump down people's throats and talk shit. its fairly obvious what I was saying too Gem, that Danthebrain has been saying all season - which is utter shite - he thinks we should buy a left back before a striker, despite it being pointed out to him we have a fairly decent defensive record, the trouble is scoring goals, and if Martins is injured we will have nobody, having lost Owen, Shearer and Bellamy over the last 2 years. Maybe we should look for the new Malcolm Macdonald, who can score goals but also started his career as a left back, I'm sure there must be someone like that around somewhere, Fred should get off his arse and find him eh Fucking hell, can you respond to what people are saying here and now, or do you constantly have to refer back to a post someone made 6 months ago? What he said in this thread made perfect sense. Now either respond to that or fuck off. I reckon you should leave him to argue his own case and fuck off !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 We've conceeding 28 goals in 22 games FFS. Decent defensive record? Maybe we're not scoring goals because we're constantly under pressure because ourt defence is shit? I'm so bored of this argument I can't believe I'm even typing this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Looks like Lauren will be available for next-to-nothing. Given our lack of full backs I think he's definitely worth a punt. While he's prone to diving into tackles, he's a solid athlete and technically sound. He badly needs games though, having been out for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Looks like Lauren will be available for next-to-nothing. Given our lack of full backs I think he's definitely worth a punt. While he's prone to diving into tackles, he's a solid athlete and technically sound. He badly needs games though, having been out for so long. Agreed. Proven performer, Premiership experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythetoon 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 We've conceeding 28 goals in 22 games FFS. Decent defensive record? Maybe we're not scoring goals because we're constantly under pressure because ourt defence is shit? I'm so bored of this argument I can't believe I'm even typing this I'd say it is the other way around, maybe we are conceding so many goals because the midfield and attack are, well, a bit of a mixed bunch. For me the defence has done well this season given the circumstances and while everyone cries out for some new defenders I'm far more concerned with midfield and attack. Our midfield just don't defend well as a unit or attack well as a unit and up front we have no real outlet. Martins can't lead the line because he's not that type of player and while strong enough on the ball, he keeps losing it because its always going sideways or back into our own midfield and not forward of him due to the lack of runners from midfield (although when Dyer plays he gets himself forward). We do need defenders of course but only because we've been hit hard with injuries in those positions. If Bramble et al were fit, despite them being average at best, I'd want us to spend our money on midfield and attack because those areas are the real problem, for me anyway. 28 goals in 22 games ain't bad, you're right - not considering the lack of experience and our mixed bag of a midfield/attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 That said, if everyone was fit as you say, we'd also have Owen and Shola. In which case, Id still want a new LB and new RB. We do need a new forward as well though. For me, Id grab what was available. I certainly wouldnt "not2 buy a LB just because a forward wasnt available or visa versa. Im saying that as you know what happens. We sign a LB and those wanting a Fwd scream why isnt he buying a Fwd? Or the other way around. Get whats there that will improve the team now and going forward, get one or two in and do the same in the summer (at least there is no WC to scour for talent ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 That said, if everyone was fit as you say, we'd also have Owen and Shola. In which case, Id still want a new LB and new RB. We do need a new forward as well though. For me, Id grab what was available. I certainly wouldnt "not2 buy a LB just because a forward wasnt available or visa versa. Im saying that as you know what happens. We sign a LB and those wanting a Fwd scream why isnt he buying a Fwd? Or the other way around. Get whats there that will improve the team now and going forward, get one or two in and do the same in the summer (at least there is no WC to scour for talent ) realistically, in a nutshell. Any money - decent money - should be targetted on a forward as priority though. However, I expect there will be people saying the club "lack planning" if the other clubs don't want to release their quality forwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9680 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 That said, if everyone was fit as you say, we'd also have Owen and Shola. In which case, Id still want a new LB and new RB. We do need a new forward as well though. For me, Id grab what was available. I certainly wouldnt "not2 buy a LB just because a forward wasnt available or visa versa. Im saying that as you know what happens. We sign a LB and those wanting a Fwd scream why isnt he buying a Fwd? Or the other way around. Get whats there that will improve the team now and going forward, get one or two in and do the same in the summer (at least there is no WC to scour for talent ) realistically, in a nutshell. Any money - decent money - should be targetted on a forward as priority though. However, I expect there will be people saying the club "lack planning" if the other clubs don't want to release their quality forwards Rubbish. "Planning" means to find a club that releases its forward. You only can plan your own actions, not those from other people. But if we end up without the necessary improvements to the squad then it means that some people weren't doing their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 That said, if everyone was fit as you say, we'd also have Owen and Shola. In which case, Id still want a new LB and new RB. We do need a new forward as well though. For me, Id grab what was available. I certainly wouldnt "not2 buy a LB just because a forward wasnt available or visa versa. Im saying that as you know what happens. We sign a LB and those wanting a Fwd scream why isnt he buying a Fwd? Or the other way around. Get whats there that will improve the team now and going forward, get one or two in and do the same in the summer (at least there is no WC to scour for talent ) realistically, in a nutshell. Any money - decent money - should be targetted on a forward as priority though. However, I expect there will be people saying the club "lack planning" if the other clubs don't want to release their quality forwards Rubbish. "Planning" means to find a club that releases its forward . You only can plan your own actions, not those from other people. But if we end up without the necessary improvements to the squad then it means that some people weren't doing their jobs. will any old forward do or are you just going to slate the club off whatever they do or if they buy a player they [or you] don't want As you think so many people "will not be doing their jobs" you could maybe tell us how many people at all the clubs who are doing their jobs better ? More mirth to pass the time ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3788 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 That said, if everyone was fit as you say, we'd also have Owen and Shola. In which case, Id still want a new LB and new RB. We do need a new forward as well though. For me, Id grab what was available. I certainly wouldnt "not2 buy a LB just because a forward wasnt available or visa versa. Im saying that as you know what happens. We sign a LB and those wanting a Fwd scream why isnt he buying a Fwd? Or the other way around. Get whats there that will improve the team now and going forward, get one or two in and do the same in the summer (at least there is no WC to scour for talent ) realistically, in a nutshell. Any money - decent money - should be targetted on a forward as priority though. However, I expect there will be people saying the club "lack planning" if the other clubs don't want to release their quality forwards Rubbish. "Planning" means to find a club that releases its forward . You only can plan your own actions, not those from other people. But if we end up without the necessary improvements to the squad then it means that some people weren't doing their jobs. will any old forward do or are you just going to slate the club off whatever they do or if they buy a player they [or you] don't want As you think so many people "will not be doing their jobs" you could maybe tell us how many people at all the clubs who are doing their jobs better ? More mirth to pass the time ......... All of the ones in the 13 clubs above us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9680 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 A Simple Guide to Garden Planning by silver medal winning garden designer Mary Newstead Choosing a Style Many people think that only large gardens need to be designed but in fact, the smaller the area, the more it needs to be planned in order to maximise its potential. But before choosing a style, first consider your location and how you want to use your garden. Location, location, location Unless you have a large garden, most designs are influenced by the plot’s limitations. A long thin garden, for example, lends itself to being divided into compartments although it would be a mistake to simply cut it across from side to side, which would be restrictive and uninteresting. A simple way is to incorporate a winding path that runs right through the garden, using plants to block the view from one end to the other or you could use an open trellis that is planted with climbers. These techniques give the impression of reducing the length while allowing you to catch glimpses of the rest of the garden through the spaces, avoiding the end result of a solid division. If you are planning a small town garden, you will be influenced by surrounding buildings and by how much your space is overlooked. Your choice of plants too will be determined by how much light is available - town gardens can be heavily shaded by overhanging trees or neighbouring buildings or it might be a sun trap that becomes too hot at times, so you may need to create some shade. Here you will want to keep your design simple - maybe an extension of your living or dining room, where meals can be eaten al fresco under a pergola covered in vines for both shade and privacy. In the country, your space will be more relaxed and possibly you will only design the area close to the house, leaving the garden beyond to blend into the landscape, which you can ‘borrow’ to give the appearance of it being a part of your garden. This is most easily achieved by camouflaging the fence with planting to give the impression that it merges with the view beyond. You could also consider lowering the fence to increase the view. If, on the other hand, your vista is unattractive and your garden is overlooked by other houses, you can create privacy by screening with trees and shrubs or a pergola, while still leaving gaps here and there to allow a glimpse of any attractive scenery that may exist. The picture below demonstrates a garden that drifts off into the surrounding countryside. http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/design/design2.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 A Simple Guide to Garden Planning by silver medal winning garden designer Mary Newstead Choosing a Style Many people think that only large gardens need to be designed but in fact, the smaller the area, the more it needs to be planned in order to maximise its potential. But before choosing a style, first consider your location and how you want to use your garden. Location, location, location Unless you have a large garden, most designs are influenced by the plot’s limitations. A long thin garden, for example, lends itself to being divided into compartments although it would be a mistake to simply cut it across from side to side, which would be restrictive and uninteresting. A simple way is to incorporate a winding path that runs right through the garden, using plants to block the view from one end to the other or you could use an open trellis that is planted with climbers. These techniques give the impression of reducing the length while allowing you to catch glimpses of the rest of the garden through the spaces, avoiding the end result of a solid division. If you are planning a small town garden, you will be influenced by surrounding buildings and by how much your space is overlooked. Your choice of plants too will be determined by how much light is available - town gardens can be heavily shaded by overhanging trees or neighbouring buildings or it might be a sun trap that becomes too hot at times, so you may need to create some shade. Here you will want to keep your design simple - maybe an extension of your living or dining room, where meals can be eaten al fresco under a pergola covered in vines for both shade and privacy. In the country, your space will be more relaxed and possibly you will only design the area close to the house, leaving the garden beyond to blend into the landscape, which you can ‘borrow’ to give the appearance of it being a part of your garden. This is most easily achieved by camouflaging the fence with planting to give the impression that it merges with the view beyond. You could also consider lowering the fence to increase the view. If, on the other hand, your vista is unattractive and your garden is overlooked by other houses, you can create privacy by screening with trees and shrubs or a pergola, while still leaving gaps here and there to allow a glimpse of any attractive scenery that may exist. The picture below demonstrates a garden that drifts off into the surrounding countryside. http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/design/design2.asp aye thats planning for you. How to win the league - as easy as planting some flowers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 That said, if everyone was fit as you say, we'd also have Owen and Shola. In which case, Id still want a new LB and new RB. We do need a new forward as well though. For me, Id grab what was available. I certainly wouldnt "not2 buy a LB just because a forward wasnt available or visa versa. Im saying that as you know what happens. We sign a LB and those wanting a Fwd scream why isnt he buying a Fwd? Or the other way around. Get whats there that will improve the team now and going forward, get one or two in and do the same in the summer (at least there is no WC to scour for talent ) realistically, in a nutshell. Any money - decent money - should be targetted on a forward as priority though. However, I expect there will be people saying the club "lack planning" if the other clubs don't want to release their quality forwards Rubbish. "Planning" means to find a club that releases its forward . You only can plan your own actions, not those from other people. But if we end up without the necessary improvements to the squad then it means that some people weren't doing their jobs. will any old forward do or are you just going to slate the club off whatever they do or if they buy a player they [or you] don't want As you think so many people "will not be doing their jobs" you could maybe tell us how many people at all the clubs who are doing their jobs better ? More mirth to pass the time ......... All of the ones in the 13 clubs above us? Before 1992 there were consistently anything between 23 and 33 clubs above us. As you should know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9680 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 (edited) Did you know that lilies are on average the 5th most beautiful flowers? Edited January 13, 2007 by Isegrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3788 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 That said, if everyone was fit as you say, we'd also have Owen and Shola. In which case, Id still want a new LB and new RB. We do need a new forward as well though. For me, Id grab what was available. I certainly wouldnt "not2 buy a LB just because a forward wasnt available or visa versa. Im saying that as you know what happens. We sign a LB and those wanting a Fwd scream why isnt he buying a Fwd? Or the other way around. Get whats there that will improve the team now and going forward, get one or two in and do the same in the summer (at least there is no WC to scour for talent ) realistically, in a nutshell. Any money - decent money - should be targetted on a forward as priority though. However, I expect there will be people saying the club "lack planning" if the other clubs don't want to release their quality forwards Rubbish. "Planning" means to find a club that releases its forward . You only can plan your own actions, not those from other people. But if we end up without the necessary improvements to the squad then it means that some people weren't doing their jobs. will any old forward do or are you just going to slate the club off whatever they do or if they buy a player they [or you] don't want As you think so many people "will not be doing their jobs" you could maybe tell us how many people at all the clubs who are doing their jobs better ? More mirth to pass the time ......... All of the ones in the 13 clubs above us? Before 1992 there were consistently anything between 23 and 33 clubs above us. As you should know. That is horrendously incorrect. Before 1992 there were anything between 0-33 clubs above us as before 1992 we won the top league spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Its not like any clubs have signed a striker in this transfer window! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 That said, if everyone was fit as you say, we'd also have Owen and Shola. In which case, Id still want a new LB and new RB. We do need a new forward as well though. For me, Id grab what was available. I certainly wouldnt "not2 buy a LB just because a forward wasnt available or visa versa. Im saying that as you know what happens. We sign a LB and those wanting a Fwd scream why isnt he buying a Fwd? Or the other way around. Get whats there that will improve the team now and going forward, get one or two in and do the same in the summer (at least there is no WC to scour for talent ) realistically, in a nutshell. Any money - decent money - should be targetted on a forward as priority though. However, I expect there will be people saying the club "lack planning" if the other clubs don't want to release their quality forwards Rubbish. "Planning" means to find a club that releases its forward . You only can plan your own actions, not those from other people. But if we end up without the necessary improvements to the squad then it means that some people weren't doing their jobs. will any old forward do or are you just going to slate the club off whatever they do or if they buy a player they [or you] don't want As you think so many people "will not be doing their jobs" you could maybe tell us how many people at all the clubs who are doing their jobs better ? More mirth to pass the time ......... All of the ones in the 13 clubs above us? Before 1992 there were consistently anything between 23 and 33 clubs above us. As you should know. That is horrendously incorrect. Before 1992 there were anything between 0-33 clubs above us as before 1992 we won the top league spot. Is it now ? Here are our league positions for the first 10 years after we got promoted in 1965 15th, 20th, 10th, 9th, 7th, 12th, 11th, 9th, 15th, 15th [nr of teams ahead of us 14, 19, 9, 8, 6, 11, 8, 14, 14] the next 10 read 15th, 5th, 21st, Div2, Div2, Div2, Div2, Div2,Div2, 14th [nr of teams ahead of us 14, 4, 20, 29, 30, 32, 30, 26, 24, 13] The next years, up to 1992 11th, 17th, 8th, 20th, Div2, Div2, Div2, [nr of teams ahead of us 10, 16, 7, 19, 22, 31, 40] FACTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 That said, if everyone was fit as you say, we'd also have Owen and Shola. In which case, Id still want a new LB and new RB. We do need a new forward as well though. For me, Id grab what was available. I certainly wouldnt "not2 buy a LB just because a forward wasnt available or visa versa. Im saying that as you know what happens. We sign a LB and those wanting a Fwd scream why isnt he buying a Fwd? Or the other way around. Get whats there that will improve the team now and going forward, get one or two in and do the same in the summer (at least there is no WC to scour for talent ) realistically, in a nutshell. Any money - decent money - should be targetted on a forward as priority though. However, I expect there will be people saying the club "lack planning" if the other clubs don't want to release their quality forwards Rubbish. "Planning" means to find a club that releases its forward . You only can plan your own actions, not those from other people. But if we end up without the necessary improvements to the squad then it means that some people weren't doing their jobs. will any old forward do or are you just going to slate the club off whatever they do or if they buy a player they [or you] don't want As you think so many people "will not be doing their jobs" you could maybe tell us how many people at all the clubs who are doing their jobs better ? More mirth to pass the time ......... All of the ones in the 13 clubs above us? Before 1992 there were consistently anything between 23 and 33 clubs above us. As you should know. That is horrendously incorrect. Before 1992 there were anything between 0-33 clubs above us as before 1992 we won the top league spot. Is it now ? Here are our league positions for the first 10 years after we got promoted in 1965 15th, 20th, 10th, 9th, 7th, 12th, 11th, 9th, 15th, 15th [nr of teams ahead of us 14, 19, 9, 8, 6, 11, 8, 14, 14] the next 10 read 15th, 5th, 21st, Div2, Div2, Div2, Div2, Div2,Div2, 14th [nr of teams ahead of us 14, 4, 20, 29, 30, 32, 30, 26, 24, 13] The next years, up to 1992 11th, 17th, 8th, 20th, Div2, Div2, Div2, [nr of teams ahead of us 10, 16, 7, 19, 22, 31, 40] FACTS. It's 2007. FACT I don't give a shit how bad were were 20 years ago, I care about now. FACT. You're stuck in the past. FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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