Zathras 244 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 (edited) The past being the NASL? It's a different reality now. In the NASL days, noone played soccer, no one had heard of soccer. Half of the population couldn't even have named Pele. Now soccer is the most played sport for youth in this country now. The game is familiar to people. The fact that there is a reason to go to a game will be enough to bring out people who otherwise wouldn't go, and it will catch on with at least some of them. The sport is more popular now than it ever was in the past, with MLS running things in a much more intelligent way than the NASL ever did. The DP rule is going to be an interesting test, but I have a feeling it'll be a rule that goes away after the 'trial period.' Well, that and people like Lothar Matthaus going. Beckham's a 'movie star' if you like in soccer terms. I think he'll raise the profile in the short-trem but I think it's about as popular as it will ever get in the US given the competition. You'd know more about it than me though tbh. What are you saying about Matthaus? He was a failure in every way imaginable over here. Didn't play well, didn't excite crowds and wasn't a name which brought attention. This differs from Beckham in the last facet 100% and from the former two possibly (we'll have to see) Edited February 27, 2007 by Zathras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathras 244 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I may have misheard, but I'm sure I heard talkSPORT saying Robbie Fowler was heading over to the States as well. Bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I may have misheard, but I'm sure I heard talkSPORT saying Robbie Fowler was heading over to the States as well. Bullshit. What? My comment, or the possibility that Fowler was heading to USA??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Zathras is seething Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 The past being the NASL? It's a different reality now. In the NASL days, noone played soccer, no one had heard of soccer. Half of the population couldn't even have named Pele. Now soccer is the most played sport for youth in this country now. The game is familiar to people. The fact that there is a reason to go to a game will be enough to bring out people who otherwise wouldn't go, and it will catch on with at least some of them. The sport is more popular now than it ever was in the past, with MLS running things in a much more intelligent way than the NASL ever did. The DP rule is going to be an interesting test, but I have a feeling it'll be a rule that goes away after the 'trial period.' Well, that and people like Lothar Matthaus going. Beckham's a 'movie star' if you like in soccer terms. I think he'll raise the profile in the short-trem but I think it's about as popular as it will ever get in the US given the competition. You'd know more about it than me though tbh. What are you saying about Matthaus? He was a failure in every way imaginable over here. Didn't play well, didn't excite crowds and wasn't a name which brought attention. This differs from Beckham in the last facet 100% and from the former two possibly (we'll have to see) I'm saying top players only go there when they're finished. In this respect Matthaus and others are the same as Beckham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathras 244 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I may have misheard, but I'm sure I heard talkSPORT saying Robbie Fowler was heading over to the States as well. Bullshit. What? My comment, or the possibility that Fowler was heading to USA??? Saying that the rumor is bullshit. It's not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 The less the Americans get involved with 'soccer' the better. I hope the game withers over there. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathras 244 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Zathras is seething Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathras 244 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 The past being the NASL? It's a different reality now. In the NASL days, noone played soccer, no one had heard of soccer. Half of the population couldn't even have named Pele. Now soccer is the most played sport for youth in this country now. The game is familiar to people. The fact that there is a reason to go to a game will be enough to bring out people who otherwise wouldn't go, and it will catch on with at least some of them. The sport is more popular now than it ever was in the past, with MLS running things in a much more intelligent way than the NASL ever did. The DP rule is going to be an interesting test, but I have a feeling it'll be a rule that goes away after the 'trial period.' Well, that and people like Lothar Matthaus going. Beckham's a 'movie star' if you like in soccer terms. I think he'll raise the profile in the short-trem but I think it's about as popular as it will ever get in the US given the competition. You'd know more about it than me though tbh. What are you saying about Matthaus? He was a failure in every way imaginable over here. Didn't play well, didn't excite crowds and wasn't a name which brought attention. This differs from Beckham in the last facet 100% and from the former two possibly (we'll have to see) I'm saying top players only go there when they're finished. In this respect Matthaus and others are the same as Beckham. While most of the country is calling for him to be recalled to the England squad? I don't disagree that this has been the case, nor do I see it as changing in the forseable future, however I think that you'll see fewer players do it. It'll be more like the Brazilian and Argentine models, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I may have misheard, but I'm sure I heard talkSPORT saying Robbie Fowler was heading over to the States as well. Bullshit. What? My comment, or the possibility that Fowler was heading to USA??? Saying that the rumor is bullshit. It's not going to happen. I said I may have misheard as they (the folk on the radio) were talking about it when I walked in the room with the radio on. I'm 90% certain that is what they were saying, but without hearing the whole conversation I can't be certain. One way or another, we'll see. As good a striker Fowler is, I would have thought he was too imobile to do any good in America. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I may have misheard, but I'm sure I heard talkSPORT saying Robbie Fowler was heading over to the States as well. Bullshit. What? My comment, or the possibility that Fowler was heading to USA??? Saying that the rumor is bullshit. It's not going to happen. I said I may have misheard as they (the folk on the radio) were talking about it when I walked in the room with the radio on. I'm 90% certain that is what they were saying, but without hearing the whole conversation I can't be certain. One way or another, we'll see. As good a striker Fowler is, I would have thought he was too imobile to do any good in America. We'll see. This isn't 10 years ago Snakey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I may have misheard, but I'm sure I heard talkSPORT saying Robbie Fowler was heading over to the States as well. Bullshit. What? My comment, or the possibility that Fowler was heading to USA??? Saying that the rumor is bullshit. It's not going to happen. I said I may have misheard as they (the folk on the radio) were talking about it when I walked in the room with the radio on. I'm 90% certain that is what they were saying, but without hearing the whole conversation I can't be certain. One way or another, we'll see. As good a striker Fowler is, I would have thought he was too imobile to do any good in America. We'll see. This isn't 10 years ago Snakey. Okay. Change finisher for striker and the point I am making is more correct (is that good English?? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathras 244 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I may have misheard, but I'm sure I heard talkSPORT saying Robbie Fowler was heading over to the States as well. Bullshit. What? My comment, or the possibility that Fowler was heading to USA??? Saying that the rumor is bullshit. It's not going to happen. I said I may have misheard as they (the folk on the radio) were talking about it when I walked in the room with the radio on. I'm 90% certain that is what they were saying, but without hearing the whole conversation I can't be certain. One way or another, we'll see. As good a striker Fowler is, I would have thought he was too imobile to do any good in America. We'll see. Considering the amount of rumors surrounding players and the DP rule, the fact that there's been virtually nothing about such a move on this side of the Atlantic suggests that it's nothing but tabloid/agent talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanMag 0 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 The less the Americans get involved with 'soccer' the better. I hope the game withers over there. Sorry. Why??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 The less the Americans get involved with 'soccer' the better. I hope the game withers over there. Sorry. Why??? If they did get seriously involved (which I have my doubts about) I reckon they'd quickly be one of the best sides in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I may have misheard, but I'm sure I heard talkSPORT saying Robbie Fowler was heading over to the States as well. Bullshit. What? My comment, or the possibility that Fowler was heading to USA??? Saying that the rumor is bullshit. It's not going to happen. I said I may have misheard as they (the folk on the radio) were talking about it when I walked in the room with the radio on. I'm 90% certain that is what they were saying, but without hearing the whole conversation I can't be certain. One way or another, we'll see. As good a striker Fowler is, I would have thought he was too imobile to do any good in America. We'll see. Considering the amount of rumors surrounding players and the DP rule, the fact that there's been virtually nothing about such a move on this side of the Atlantic suggests that it's nothing but tabloid/agent talk. Ho hum! Seems like I have got reasonably good hearing after all!! The Coach of New England (somebody or other) has confirmed that he has held talks with R.Fowler. However, the Coach stated that a major stumbling block is the finance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4ever 0 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ool/6404031.stm Fowler in talks over US transferNew England Revolution coach Steve Nicol has held talks with former Liverpool team-mate Robbie Fowler about a move to the United States. The 31-year-old striker is out of contract at Anfield at the end of the season and his future is uncertain. Nicol said: "At the moment the first thing is the financial side. "We've spoken, but as of yet there's nothing been settled. He's really just dipping his foot in the water here. It's something he's thinking about." Fowler's hopes of extending his Anfield career have been threatened by the arrival of Andriy Voronin from Bayer Leverkusen. "Because of the type of money David Beckham has got, a lot of people think everybody has that kind of money " New England Revolution coach Steve Nicol Nicol, who played with Fowler at Liverpool in the early 90s, said: "He's getting his ducks in a row. Whether he gets a contract at Liverpool or whether he moves on, he's dipping his foot in the water." The Revolution have been one of the most consistent teams in MLS in recent seasons, reaching the cup final in each of the last two seasons, only to suffer defeats at the hands of the Los Angeles Galaxy in 2005 and the Houston Dynamo last season. However, with the departure of key man Clint Dempsey to Fulham in January, Nicol knows there is a need to rebuild, and he has some money from that deal to invest in wages. Nicol - who fended off a $1m offer from Celtic for midfielder Shalrie Joseph this winter - is in a strong position to make an impact signing using the designated player slot. This was the mechanism which allowed LA Galaxy to sign David Beckham on a contract that could be worth up to $250m in salary and endorsements over five years. "Through the sale of Clint we have some money available," he said. "But the problem we have is that, because of the type of money David Beckham has got, a lot of people think everybody has that kind of money which is not the case." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3860 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 The less the Americans get involved with 'soccer' the better. I hope the game withers over there. Sorry. Why??? Because they spoil everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 The less the Americans get involved with 'soccer' the better. I hope the game withers over there. Sorry. Why??? Because they spoil everything. I have to say that I am in Alex's camp, regarding USA and football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 The less the Americans get involved with 'soccer' the better. I hope the game withers over there. Sorry. Why??? If they did get seriously involved (which I have my doubts about) I reckon they'd quickly be one of the best sides in the world. I thought they were already 4th or something daft in the world rankings before the World Cup? Obviously down to differences in the different regions, but still, hardly shite is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 The less the Americans get involved with 'soccer' the better. I hope the game withers over there. Sorry. Why??? If they did get seriously involved (which I have my doubts about) I reckon they'd quickly be one of the best sides in the world. I thought they were already 4th or something daft in the world rankings before the World Cup? Obviously down to differences in the different regions, but still, hardly shite is it? They were top 10 iirc, as were Mexico by virtue of their being in CONCACAF presumably and winning almost all of their 'competitive' matches. I meant they'd be genuine World Cup contenders which, in all honesty, they simply aren't at present. They do pretty well already but they aren't in the class of the likes of Brazil, Italy, Argentina, etc. They would be if it usurped one of the top 3 sports over there I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 The less the Americans get involved with 'soccer' the better. I hope the game withers over there. Sorry. Why??? If they did get seriously involved (which I have my doubts about) I reckon they'd quickly be one of the best sides in the world. I thought they were already 4th or something daft in the world rankings before the World Cup? Obviously down to differences in the different regions, but still, hardly shite is it? They were top 10 iirc, as were Mexico by virtue of their being in CONCACAF presumably and winning almost all of their 'competitive' matches. I meant they'd be genuine World Cup contenders which, in all honesty, they simply aren't at present. They do pretty well already but they aren't in the class of the likes of Brazil, Italy, Argentina, etc. They would be if it usurped one of the top 3 sports over there I reckon. Given population sizes combined with footballing heritage I think Russia dissapoints most. Probably something to do with all the snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 The less the Americans get involved with 'soccer' the better. I hope the game withers over there. Sorry. Why??? If they did get seriously involved (which I have my doubts about) I reckon they'd quickly be one of the best sides in the world. I thought they were already 4th or something daft in the world rankings before the World Cup? Obviously down to differences in the different regions, but still, hardly shite is it? They were top 10 iirc, as were Mexico by virtue of their being in CONCACAF presumably and winning almost all of their 'competitive' matches. I meant they'd be genuine World Cup contenders which, in all honesty, they simply aren't at present. They do pretty well already but they aren't in the class of the likes of Brazil, Italy, Argentina, etc. They would be if it usurped one of the top 3 sports over there I reckon. Given population sizes combined with footballing heritage I think Russia dissapoints most. Probably something to do with all the snow I wasn't suggesting I was disappointed with the USA being just alright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 The less the Americans get involved with 'soccer' the better. I hope the game withers over there. Sorry. Why??? If they did get seriously involved (which I have my doubts about) I reckon they'd quickly be one of the best sides in the world. I thought they were already 4th or something daft in the world rankings before the World Cup? Obviously down to differences in the different regions, but still, hardly shite is it? They were top 10 iirc, as were Mexico by virtue of their being in CONCACAF presumably and winning almost all of their 'competitive' matches. I meant they'd be genuine World Cup contenders which, in all honesty, they simply aren't at present. They do pretty well already but they aren't in the class of the likes of Brazil, Italy, Argentina, etc. They would be if it usurped one of the top 3 sports over there I reckon. Given population sizes combined with footballing heritage I think Russia dissapoints most. Probably something to do with all the snow I wasn't suggesting I was disappointed with the USA being just alright Go Team! It would be yet another former colony screwing us over at a game we invented... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ool/6404031.stm Fowler in talks over US transferNew England Revolution coach Steve Nicol has held talks with former Liverpool team-mate Robbie Fowler about a move to the United States. The 31-year-old striker is out of contract at Anfield at the end of the season and his future is uncertain. Nicol said: "At the moment the first thing is the financial side. "We've spoken, but as of yet there's nothing been settled. He's really just dipping his foot in the water here. It's something he's thinking about." Fowler's hopes of extending his Anfield career have been threatened by the arrival of Andriy Voronin from Bayer Leverkusen. "Because of the type of money David Beckham has got, a lot of people think everybody has that kind of money " New England Revolution coach Steve Nicol Nicol, who played with Fowler at Liverpool in the early 90s, said: "He's getting his ducks in a row. Whether he gets a contract at Liverpool or whether he moves on, he's dipping his foot in the water." The Revolution have been one of the most consistent teams in MLS in recent seasons, reaching the cup final in each of the last two seasons, only to suffer defeats at the hands of the Los Angeles Galaxy in 2005 and the Houston Dynamo last season. However, with the departure of key man Clint Dempsey to Fulham in January, Nicol knows there is a need to rebuild, and he has some money from that deal to invest in wages. Nicol - who fended off a $1m offer from Celtic for midfielder Shalrie Joseph this winter - is in a strong position to make an impact signing using the designated player slot. This was the mechanism which allowed LA Galaxy to sign David Beckham on a contract that could be worth up to $250m in salary and endorsements over five years. "Through the sale of Clint we have some money available," he said. "But the problem we have is that, because of the type of money David Beckham has got, a lot of people think everybody has that kind of money which is not the case." BULLSHIT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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