Might Be Getting Reported At Work...

[Brock Manson 0]

[Kid Dynamite 6961]

Get a life you private plate sporting cunt!

 

He didin't intentionally upset this bloke but if the bloke wants to take it further, fuck him, let him get on with it.

 

tbh though, thats what diversity is all about, the fact somebody didnt set out to upset another is irrelevant. You cannot make comments which may cause offence to another without expecting some sort of comeback. If you do make a statement at the top of your voice as Johnny36 has (allegedly, I think its all bollocks tbh) then frankly, as monsignour J69 has pointed out you've got whats coming to you.

 

How anyone can see the words "how black is that fucker?" nice and loudly then wonder why someone is disgusted by it beggars belief imhotbhjwetc

 

 

Just sick of hearing all this shit tbh, had it rammed down my throat daily when working in HR, in particular the likes of J69 preaching it.

 

+ i hate the cunt anyway

 

Sorry Cath

 

 

If you worked with him you would have been one of the numptys sitting next to him sniggering tbh.

[The Fish 10659]

I think the PC in this country is obscene and is perpetuated by the likes of J69.

[peasepud 59]

I think the PC in this country is obscene and is perpetuated by the likes of J69.

 

chunks of it are, certain things such as the whole "no christmas celebrations in schools" etc however in this discussion its not even Political Correctness just purely sense.

[The Fish 10659]

I think an apology would certainly fix the problem.

 

I don't think what Jonny allegedely said was offensive, either in content or intent

 

I think the defence I offered is another way to fix the problem.

 

I think J69 takes every opportunity to try and show how cool/politically correct he is and he just comes off looking like a twat.

 

I think pp is very tall

[Gemmill 44093]

I think it was ill-advised (I might say something like "Jesus how black is he?" sat at home, but at work where you don't know how it'll be taken it's daft) and unfortunate (that there should be someone present to take offence), but I don't think it was racist.

[Gejon 2]

I think I know 2J quite well and i'm certain there wasnt any intention in the comment but if I was at work and someone had said that I would have cringed and thought "silly fucker"

[peasepud 59]

Im a little surprised that the words "how black is that fucker?" is not seen by many on here as being offensive, the fact it was backed up by mates laughing would have made it look like a total pisstake.

 

Maybe thats just me (and J69), maybe its years of working in the Civil Service or hopefully its just that I have a different view of what I see as offensive or not.

 

What Ive always been told when it comes to Diversity is you should never say something in relation to another person that you wouldnt say to their face, so you need to ask yourselves whether you would go upto the bloke and say "hooo fucker, how black are you?"

[The Fish 10659]

Im a little surprised that the words "how black is that fucker?" is not seen by many on here as being offensive, the fact it was backed up by mates laughing would have made it look like a total pisstake.

 

Maybe thats just me (and J69), maybe its years of working in the Civil Service or hopefully its just that I have a different view of what I see as offensive or not.

 

What Ive always been told when it comes to Diversity is you should never say something in relation to another person that you wouldnt say to their face, so you need to ask yourselves whether you would go upto the bloke and say "hooo fucker, how black are you?"

 

 

I'm just aware of how easily people can feign offence, I know for damned sure that my Dad got into trouble for saying the un-pc phrase when there was a transition between "coloured" and "black". a bloke pretended he was offended to get back at my dad for passing him up for promotion.

 

In the hearing my dad effectively said that it wasn't because the guy was black that he didn't get the job, it's because he was a twat.

 

so, yes you're right that these days it's a fucking minefield, but that doesn't mean you should just capitulate. If no offence was meant and the phrase itself isn't inherently racist then I don't see that the bloke has a leg to stand on tbh.

 

if Jonny had said "fook me look how black that nigger is" then yes, he's in for a whole shitstorm of trouble, but it's (imo) no different than when people comment on how orange Dale Winton is. It's only offensive if the person attaches worth tocolour, and in that case the racism is theirs, not Jonny's.

 

but Jonny will have to apologise simply because it's easier.

[Gemmill 44093]

Im a little surprised that the words "how black is that fucker?" is not seen by many on here as being offensive, the fact it was backed up by mates laughing would have made it look like a total pisstake.

 

Maybe thats just me (and J69), maybe its years of working in the Civil Service or hopefully its just that I have a different view of what I see as offensive or not.

 

What Ive always been told when it comes to Diversity is you should never say something in relation to another person that you wouldnt say to their face, so you need to ask yourselves whether you would go upto the bloke and say "hooo fucker, how black are you?"

 

I'm not saying it isn't offensive. I'm sure the black bloke found it offensive. But I'm sure no real offense was meant. Like I say, it was ill-advised and ill-timed.

[Shearergol 0]

Your defence is simple, just say that had you seen a particularly pale man on the TV and said "How white is that fucker" would you be in trouble? Then tell them that they are the ones being racist and picking on you because you're white and threaten to go to the Commission for Racial Equality.

 

 

Except white people havent been persecuted since the beginning of time.

 

How about you say,

 

'im obviosuly an uneducated prat working amongst similar uneducated prats who think my comment about how black somebody is is tantamount to comedic genius. As it happens, I am in fact to stupid to realise a comment like that could actually offend someone and that is why I am going to argue the toss about not being in the wrong, when really, anyone with 3 neurones can see that I was being a racist idiot'

 

Certain amount of irony there, no?

[peasepud 59]

Im a little surprised that the words "how black is that fucker?" is not seen by many on here as being offensive, the fact it was backed up by mates laughing would have made it look like a total pisstake.

 

Maybe thats just me (and J69), maybe its years of working in the Civil Service or hopefully its just that I have a different view of what I see as offensive or not.

 

What Ive always been told when it comes to Diversity is you should never say something in relation to another person that you wouldnt say to their face, so you need to ask yourselves whether you would go upto the bloke and say "hooo fucker, how black are you?"

 

 

I'm just aware of how easily people can feign offence, I know for damned sure that my Dad got into trouble for saying the un-pc phrase when there was a transition between "coloured" and "black". a bloke pretended he was offended to get back at my dad for passing him up for promotion.

 

In the hearing my dad effectively said that it wasn't because the guy was black that he didn't get the job, it's because he was a twat.

 

so, yes you're right that these days it's a fucking minefield, but that doesn't mean you should just capitulate. If no offence was meant and the phrase itself isn't inherently racist then I don't see that the bloke has a leg to stand on tbh.

 

if Jonny had said "fook me look how black that nigger is" then yes, he's in for a whole shitstorm of trouble, but it's (imo) no different than when people comment on how orange Dale Winton is. It's only offensive if the person attaches worth tocolour, and in that case the racism is theirs, not Jonny's.

 

but Jonny will have to apologise simply because it's easier.

 

So if you walked in the room and I said loudly "how ugly is that fucker?" to which all me mates laughed wouldnt you be offended?

[Shearergol 0]

Im a little surprised that the words "how black is that fucker?" is not seen by many on here as being offensive, the fact it was backed up by mates laughing would have made it look like a total pisstake.

 

Maybe thats just me (and J69), maybe its years of working in the Civil Service or hopefully its just that I have a different view of what I see as offensive or not.

 

What Ive always been told when it comes to Diversity is you should never say something in relation to another person that you wouldnt say to their face, so you need to ask yourselves whether you would go upto the bloke and say "hooo fucker, how black are you?"

 

 

I'm just aware of how easily people can feign offence, I know for damned sure that my Dad got into trouble for saying the un-pc phrase when there was a transition between "coloured" and "black". a bloke pretended he was offended to get back at my dad for passing him up for promotion.

 

In the hearing my dad effectively said that it wasn't because the guy was black that he didn't get the job, it's because he was a twat.

 

so, yes you're right that these days it's a fucking minefield, but that doesn't mean you should just capitulate. If no offence was meant and the phrase itself isn't inherently racist then I don't see that the bloke has a leg to stand on tbh.

 

if Jonny had said "fook me look how black that nigger is" then yes, he's in for a whole shitstorm of trouble, but it's (imo) no different than when people comment on how orange Dale Winton is. It's only offensive if the person attaches worth tocolour, and in that case the racism is theirs, not Jonny's.

 

but Jonny will have to apologise simply because it's easier.

 

So if you walked in the room and I said loudly "how ugly is that fucker?" to which all me mates laughed wouldnt you be offended?

 

Coming from you, I'd imagine it would be quite offensive like.

 

 

 

 

[Gejon 2]

Im a little surprised that the words "how black is that fucker?" is not seen by many on here as being offensive, the fact it was backed up by mates laughing would have made it look like a total pisstake.

 

Maybe thats just me (and J69), maybe its years of working in the Civil Service or hopefully its just that I have a different view of what I see as offensive or not.

 

What Ive always been told when it comes to Diversity is you should never say something in relation to another person that you wouldnt say to their face, so you need to ask yourselves whether you would go upto the bloke and say "hooo fucker, how black are you?"

 

 

I'm just aware of how easily people can feign offence, I know for damned sure that my Dad got into trouble for saying the un-pc phrase when there was a transition between "coloured" and "black". a bloke pretended he was offended to get back at my dad for passing him up for promotion.

 

In the hearing my dad effectively said that it wasn't because the guy was black that he didn't get the job, it's because he was a twat.

 

so, yes you're right that these days it's a fucking minefield, but that doesn't mean you should just capitulate. If no offence was meant and the phrase itself isn't inherently racist then I don't see that the bloke has a leg to stand on tbh.

 

if Jonny had said "fook me look how black that nigger is" then yes, he's in for a whole shitstorm of trouble, but it's (imo) no different than when people comment on how orange Dale Winton is. It's only offensive if the person attaches worth tocolour, and in that case the racism is theirs, not Jonny's.

 

but Jonny will have to apologise simply because it's easier.

 

So if you walked in the room and I said loudly "how ugly is that fucker?" to which all me mates laughed wouldnt you be offended?

 

As the bloke he was talking about was on TV i would guess I wouldn't.

[Kid Dynamite 6961]

I think an apology would certainly fix the problem.

 

I don't think what Jonny allegedely said was offensive, either in content or intent

 

I think the defence I offered is another way to fix the problem.

 

I think J69 takes every opportunity to try and show how cool/politically correct he is and he just comes off looking like a twat.

I think pp is very tall

 

 

Maybe it was just the way i was brought up. It wouldnt enter my head to comment on how black somebody is, in private or at work. And I also wouldnt be astounded that a blind man could crack a joke. Thats not being PC. Its just being a normal person.

 

People are brought up differently. I was sat watching Chubby Brown the other night with my mates and the only time any of them laughed was when he said Cunt, Paki or told someone to Fuck off, regardless of whether he was actually telling a joke or not.

 

They thought I was weird cos i didnt find it funny

[Gejon 2]

If someone was extremely white wouldn't you say that?

[The Fish 10659]

like Gejon says, not if he was referring to someone on tv

 

also "Ugly" has a value, the colour of someones skin (in my eyes) doesn't.

[peasepud 59]

you know summit?

 

Ive had this whole discussion based on the fact I misread the originla post, I thought he said someone came in not on telly.

 

That sort of changes it as I thought the bloke was there in the room. Still you have to be careful what you say for fear of offending someone.

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Oh and Gol .........

[Gejon 2]

 

I could see that being kind of wrong, "wow you are a black fucker aint ya!" *all your mates laugh!

 

nah actually i'm not sure

[Jusoda Kid 1]

Get a life you private plate sporting cunt!

 

He didin't intentionally upset this bloke but if the bloke wants to take it further, fuck him, let him get on with it.

 

tbh though, thats what diversity is all about, the fact somebody didnt set out to upset another is irrelevant. You cannot make comments which may cause offence to another without expecting some sort of comeback. If you do make a statement at the top of your voice as Johnny36 has (allegedly, I think its all bollocks tbh) then frankly, as monsignour J69 has pointed out you've got whats coming to you.

 

How anyone can see the words "how black is that fucker?" nice and loudly then wonder why someone is disgusted by it beggars belief imhotbhjwetc

 

 

Just sick of hearing all this shit tbh, had it rammed down my throat daily when working in HR, in particular the likes of J69 preaching it.

 

+ i hate the cunt anyway

 

Sorry Cath

 

 

If you worked with him you would have been one of the numptys sitting next to him sniggering tbh.

 

Correct, now go and lick yourself out

[Gemmill 44093]

Peter, you thick fucker. "Eh? How can everyone be saying that it isn't racist to comment on how much of a black fucker the black bloke in the room is???" I can understand your incredulity now.

[Invicta_Toon 0]

Im a little surprised that the words "how black is that fucker?" is not seen by many on here as being offensive, the fact it was backed up by mates laughing would have made it look like a total pisstake.

 

Maybe thats just me (and J69), maybe its years of working in the Civil Service or hopefully its just that I have a different view of what I see as offensive or not.

 

What Ive always been told when it comes to Diversity is you should never say something in relation to another person that you wouldnt say to their face, so you need to ask yourselves whether you would go upto the bloke and say "hooo fucker, how black are you?"

 

that's what's wrong with this stand, you're being TOLD what is and is not common sense

 

at the end of the day, what's wrong is this bloke can get sacked for being offensive, not because he was offensive, but because it happened to be an offensive comment about race. However, if he had said, how gay/ugly/short/thick is that fucker on the telly, and a gay/ugly/short/thick bloke was behind him, can you honestly see him being sacked for it? Not that they aren't the next targets for the HR knobs

 

and as for not saying something to someone's face, I wouldn't call fat fred a useless fat cock to his face, but i'm fucked if that stops me from saying it on here

[peasepud 59]

that's what's wrong with this stand, you're being TOLD what is and is not common sense

 

at the end of the day, what's wrong is this bloke can get sacked for being offensive, not because he was offensive, but because it happened to be an offensive comment about race. However, if he had said, how gay/ugly/short/thick is that fucker on the telly, and a gay/ugly/short/thick bloke was behind him, can you honestly see him being sacked for it? Not that they aren't the next targets for the HR knobs

 

and as for not saying something to someone's face, I wouldn't call fat fred a useless fat cock to his face, but i'm fucked if that stops me from saying it on here

 

Theres a difference between saying it on an Internet message board and (as I wrongly thought) in earshot of the person though.

[Kid Dynamite 6961]

A simple 'sorry mate, it was a daft thing to say' would have sorted it there and then.

 

I hope you get sacked tbh

[The Fish 10659]

A simple 'sorry mate, it was a daft thing to say' would have sorted it there and then.

 

I hope you get sacked tbh

 

 

what a totally prickish thing to say.