Lazarus 0 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6225301.stm Stuck woman traps SA cave group An overweight woman who got stuck in a South African cave trapped 22 fellow tourists for more than 10 hours and had to be prised free with liquid paraffin. The woman became trapped in the Tunnel of Love obstacle in the Cango Caves in Western Cape on New Year's Day. The caves' manager said the woman had been warned she might not be suitable but she insisted on trying. One of those trapped was a diabetic who had to be brought insulin. The woman and the other tourists were unhurt. The rescue operation involved several ambulance teams and a helicopter. Hein Gerstner, manager of Cango Caves, told the BBC it was an "expensive exercise" that could cost 40,000 rand ($5,700, £2,925). "We don't know yet who will foot the bill," he said. Pulley The ordeal began when the woman became stuck just after noon on New Year's Day. Mr Gerstner said the woman was "told at the ticket office that she was too big to take part in the specific section". He said she was again warned by the guide but that it was "very difficult to discriminate". Map Mr Gerstner said: "The obstacle has a narrow base. She lost her footing and went down in a splits position. There was no way she could get her body weight up." But he said she was young and remained mentally strong throughout and the other tourists took the ordeal "exceptionally well". The tourists, including two asthmatic children, were given blankets, water and chocolate bars as the rescue proceeded. One rescuer was able to climb over the woman to deliver insulin to the diabetic. No drilling equipment was needed and the woman was eventually freed with a pulley and paraffin used to grease the surface at about 2320. She was taken to hospital but is not injured and is expected to be released on Tuesday. Mr Gerstner said: "We believe what goes in, must come out again. People get stuck all the time - that's one of the unfortunate things that happen, it's part of the adventure." However, he said the caves would consider more stringent measures for those entering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14021 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Some people! I propose Fat Tax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47096 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Like Augustus Gloop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11079 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Some people! I propose Fat Tax didn't Gordon Ramsey's food critic chum already propose that? I'd happily agree to a fat tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 You two want to start paying taxes before you go proposing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11079 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 (edited) You two want to start paying taxes before you go proposing them. I pay emergency tax! Edited January 4, 2007 by The Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 You two want to start paying taxes before you go proposing them. I pay emergency tax! Technically you claim that back though, being a full-time student, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14021 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I payed tax for two weeks il have you know, Money grabbing bastards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11079 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 You two want to start paying taxes before you go proposing them. I pay emergency tax! Technically you claim that back though, being a full-time student, don't you? technically I still pay it though don't I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 You two want to start paying taxes before you go proposing them. I pay emergency tax! Technically you claim that back though, being a full-time student, don't you? technically I still pay it though don't I? And then get it back. My point is still pertinent though. And you normally only pay Emergency Tax if you don't know your NI number. In which case I propose a stupid tax. Although you'd be liable for fat tax too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11079 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 his basic concept wasn't a bad idea, basically making morbidly obese people pay more for food and stuff so as to discourage their god awful eating habits. and while they might try to blame it on glands and all that shite I'm sure stuffing a chocolate gateaux sandwich down your throat doesn't fucking help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47096 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Eh? What are you doing advocating a fat tax, blimpy boy? Glutton for food AND punishment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 his basic concept wasn't a bad idea, basically making morbidly obese people pay more for food and stuff so as to discourage their god awful eating habits. and while they might try to blame it on glands and all that shite I'm sure stuffing a chocolate gateaux sandwich down your throat doesn't fucking help! Difficult to see how you'd put it into place though, and would you have a sliding scale based on how healthy foods were etc.? Personally I'm against that sort of thing anyway as it's all about free will for me. And where would it end? Also, people are more genetically pre-disposed to be either fat or thin imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11079 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Eh? What are you doing advocating a fat tax, blimpy boy? Glutton for food AND punishment? fuck you fat man I'm down to 13 and 1/4 stone at my worst I was 14 and a half! lose anymore weight and people would mistake me for a flagpole! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Eh? What are you doing advocating a fat tax, blimpy boy? Glutton for food AND punishment? fuck you fat man I'm down to 13 and 1/4 stone at my worst I was 14 and a half! lose anymore weight and people would mistake me for a flagpole! Funny how you never attend a piss-up when you reckon you're trim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11079 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Difficult to see how you'd put it into place though, and would you have a sliding scale based on how healthy foods were etc.? Personally I'm against that sort of thing anyway as it's all about free will for me. And where would it end? Also, people are more genetically pre-disposed to be either fat or thin imo. aye but when when some fat bugger's free will to scoff a cow everyday costs the NHS billions and that cost is passed onto me... it impinges on my free will. I'd agree that a lot fo the times simply not eating shit food isn't coming close to the real reason the person is eating, but if you at least take away that self destructive option... surely SURELY it would help the fatties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11079 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Funny how you never attend a piss-up when you're Skint/in Leeds fixed it for you never said I was "trim" just that I'd lost weight since the time I cast a shadow over poor Scotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47096 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Cast a shadow? Full moon......half moon.......toTAL eclipse, more like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally 0 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 She never told me on New Years Eve she was going to South Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Difficult to see how you'd put it into place though, and would you have a sliding scale based on how healthy foods were etc.? Personally I'm against that sort of thing anyway as it's all about free will for me. And where would it end? Also, people are more genetically pre-disposed to be either fat or thin imo. aye but when when some fat bugger's free will to scoff a cow everyday costs the NHS billions and that cost is passed onto me... it impinges on my free will. I'd agree that a lot fo the times simply not eating shit food isn't coming close to the real reason the person is eating, but if you at least take away that self destructive option... surely SURELY it would help the fatties. If you're going to do that it should probably cost about £10 a pint of beer in town to pay for all the extra policing. I wouldn't advocate that either tbh. We need a cultural change in both those areas. Fuck knows how that will come about though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11079 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 never said it was the only problem... just one that I think is more easily attacked than alcohol abuse. it is (for better or worse) more socially acceptable to be drunk than it is to be fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 never said it was the only problem... just one that I think is more easily attacked than alcohol abuse. it is (for better or worse) more socially acceptable to be drunk than it is to be fat. How would it be more easily attacked then? A 'fat tax' would be an absolute nightmare and totally impractical to administer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6923 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 never said it was the only problem... just one that I think is more easily attacked than alcohol abuse. it is (for better or worse) more socially acceptable to be drunk than it is to be fat. How would it be more easily attacked then? A 'fat tax' would be an absolute nightmare and totally impractical to administer. A monthly weigh-in with penalty fines would be great TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth Operator 10 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6225301.stm There was no way she could get her body weight up." Bullshit, alls she needs to do is get a few more pies in next time she wardles round Wal Mart! Fat twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6701 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Eh? What are you doing advocating a fat tax, blimpy boy? Glutton for food AND punishment? fuck you fat man I'm down to 13 and 1/4 stone at my worst I was 14 and a half! lose anymore weight and people would mistake me for a flagpole! 13¼ stone for someone 5ft 10 is waaaaaaaay to much tbh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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