Whitey 0 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Charlton head coach Les Reed has left the club by mutual consent to be replaced by recently sacked West Ham United manager Alan Pardew. Pardew has signed a three-and-a-half year deal at the Valley and becomes the team's third manager this season. Reed was originally drafted in to replace Iain Dowie but has failed to turn the club's fortunes around. However, Reed managed just one victory at the helm and lost to League Two side Wycombe in the Carling Cup. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...tic/6208387.stm They don't fuck about do they!? Right decision though IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInspiration 1 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Hardly the biggest surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatful Of Hollow 0 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 They're still down like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 it was a good "plan" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 0 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 it was a good "plan" No, it was a very bad appointment which everyone thought would fail from the off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Merry Xmas Mr Reed,lifes a bitch then santa leaves you socks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 (edited) it was a good "plan" No, it was a very bad appointment which everyone thought would fail from the off. of course it was mate. But I'm sure the Charlton board thought it was a "plan". I am curious to know what some of the lesser lights on here think about other clubs making bad appointments and not having a "plan" though ..... they realised they got it wrong and made a decision, which is what I've always said is what happens. Edited December 24, 2006 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 A plan appointing someone who looks like he came from the cast of coranation street? tremendous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22615 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 it was a good "plan" No, it was a very bad appointment which everyone thought would fail from the off. of course it was mate. But I'm sure the Charlton board thought it was a "plan". I am curious to know what some of the lesser lights on here think about other clubs making bad appointments and not having a "plan" though ..... they realised they got it wrong and made a decision, which is what I've always said is what happens. Leazes, bury the hatchet for at least one day mate. Merry Christmas to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 (edited) it was a good "plan" No, it was a very bad appointment which everyone thought would fail from the off. of course it was mate. But I'm sure the Charlton board thought it was a "plan". I am curious to know what some of the lesser lights on here think about other clubs making bad appointments and not having a "plan" though ..... they realised they got it wrong and made a decision, which is what I've always said is what happens. Leazes, bury the hatchet for at least one day mate. Merry Christmas to you. In freddys neck Edited December 24, 2006 by @yourservice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gram 0 Posted December 25, 2006 Share Posted December 25, 2006 it was a good "plan" No, it was a very bad appointment which everyone thought would fail from the off. of course it was mate. But I'm sure the Charlton board thought it was a "plan". I am curious to know what some of the lesser lights on here think about other clubs making bad appointments and not having a "plan" though ..... they realised they got it wrong and made a decision, which is what I've always said is what happens. You'll be asking yourself that question then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 25, 2006 Share Posted December 25, 2006 it was a good "plan" No, it was a very bad appointment which everyone thought would fail from the off. of course it was mate. But I'm sure the Charlton board thought it was a "plan". I am curious to know what some of the lesser lights on here think about other clubs making bad appointments and not having a "plan" though ..... they realised they got it wrong and made a decision, which is what I've always said is what happens. Leazes, bury the hatchet for at least one day mate. Merry Christmas to you. no hatchet to bury Renton, no hard feelings from me about anything. I never understood why they appointed the bloke you could tell from day 1 that he isn't a "manager". I don't judge anyone on here by what they say on a message board, shame now I didn't speak to PP the other night now I know it was def him. And Happy Xmas to you and everyone else, and may NUFC keep winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22615 Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 it was a good "plan" No, it was a very bad appointment which everyone thought would fail from the off. of course it was mate. But I'm sure the Charlton board thought it was a "plan". I am curious to know what some of the lesser lights on here think about other clubs making bad appointments and not having a "plan" though ..... they realised they got it wrong and made a decision, which is what I've always said is what happens. Leazes, bury the hatchet for at least one day mate. Merry Christmas to you. no hatchet to bury Renton, no hard feelings from me about anything. I never understood why they appointed the bloke you could tell from day 1 that he isn't a "manager". I don't judge anyone on here by what they say on a message board, shame now I didn't speak to PP the other night now I know it was def him. And Happy Xmas to you and everyone else, and may NUFC keep winning. Cheers Leazes. One of my New Year's resolutions is to be nice to you, if you do the same with me we'll have a less antagonistic year! Hopefully the team will keep on winning and regardless who's right or wrong we'll both be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 it was a good "plan" No, it was a very bad appointment which everyone thought would fail from the off. of course it was mate. But I'm sure the Charlton board thought it was a "plan". I am curious to know what some of the lesser lights on here think about other clubs making bad appointments and not having a "plan" though ..... they realised they got it wrong and made a decision, which is what I've always said is what happens. Leazes, bury the hatchet for at least one day mate. Merry Christmas to you. no hatchet to bury Renton, no hard feelings from me about anything. I never understood why they appointed the bloke you could tell from day 1 that he isn't a "manager". I don't judge anyone on here by what they say on a message board, shame now I didn't speak to PP the other night now I know it was def him. And Happy Xmas to you and everyone else, and may NUFC keep winning. Cheers Leazes. One of my New Year's resolutions is to be nice to you, if you do the same with me we'll have a less antagonistic year! Hopefully the team will keep on winning and regardless who's right or wrong we'll both be happy. cheers....as I said, shame I didn't speak to PP the other night I've not had a problem with him anyway and I'm sure he's a canny bloke, even you despite what Gemmill says Twat of a result today, I still think that Allardyce could have been our man, what has always impressed me about him is that he handles all these players with ego's and they all play for him and don't fall out with him, that is a big plus point for a manager of a club like Newcastle to have. Add to that his attention to detail regarding the dietary, fitness and medical aspect of being professional athletes and I think he would have laid down new standards and progressive ideas in these fields. Plus the most important thing, Bolton have steadily improved all the time he has been there - he's a stayer. Despite what people say, if we played like Bolton do, and we might not if he was able to buy better quality footballers, nobody would give a toss if we were winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 it was a good "plan" No, it was a very bad appointment which everyone thought would fail from the off. of course it was mate. But I'm sure the Charlton board thought it was a "plan". I am curious to know what some of the lesser lights on here think about other clubs making bad appointments and not having a "plan" though ..... they realised they got it wrong and made a decision, which is what I've always said is what happens. Leazes, bury the hatchet for at least one day mate. Merry Christmas to you. no hatchet to bury Renton, no hard feelings from me about anything. I never understood why they appointed the bloke you could tell from day 1 that he isn't a "manager". I don't judge anyone on here by what they say on a message board, shame now I didn't speak to PP the other night now I know it was def him. And Happy Xmas to you and everyone else, and may NUFC keep winning. Cheers Leazes. One of my New Year's resolutions is to be nice to you, if you do the same with me we'll have a less antagonistic year! Hopefully the team will keep on winning and regardless who's right or wrong we'll both be happy. cheers....as I said, shame I didn't speak to PP the other night I've not had a problem with him anyway and I'm sure he's a canny bloke, even you despite what Gemmill says Twat of a result today, I still think that Allardyce could have been our man, what has always impressed me about him is that he handles all these players with ego's and they all play for him and don't fall out with him, that is a big plus point for a manager of a club like Newcastle to have. Add to that his attention to detail regarding the dietary, fitness and medical aspect of being professional athletes and I think he would have laid down new standards and progressive ideas in these fields. Plus the most important thing, Bolton have steadily improved all the time he has been there - he's a stayer. Despite what people say, if we played like Bolton do, and we might not if he was able to buy better quality footballers, nobody would give a toss if we were winning. You fucking slated me the other day on N-O when I said the club should look at Bolton to how we should run this football club, you're now saying the same!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 it was a good "plan" No, it was a very bad appointment which everyone thought would fail from the off. of course it was mate. But I'm sure the Charlton board thought it was a "plan". I am curious to know what some of the lesser lights on here think about other clubs making bad appointments and not having a "plan" though ..... they realised they got it wrong and made a decision, which is what I've always said is what happens. Leazes, bury the hatchet for at least one day mate. Merry Christmas to you. no hatchet to bury Renton, no hard feelings from me about anything. I never understood why they appointed the bloke you could tell from day 1 that he isn't a "manager". I don't judge anyone on here by what they say on a message board, shame now I didn't speak to PP the other night now I know it was def him. And Happy Xmas to you and everyone else, and may NUFC keep winning. Cheers Leazes. One of my New Year's resolutions is to be nice to you, if you do the same with me we'll have a less antagonistic year! Hopefully the team will keep on winning and regardless who's right or wrong we'll both be happy. cheers....as I said, shame I didn't speak to PP the other night I've not had a problem with him anyway and I'm sure he's a canny bloke, even you despite what Gemmill says Twat of a result today, I still think that Allardyce could have been our man, what has always impressed me about him is that he handles all these players with ego's and they all play for him and don't fall out with him, that is a big plus point for a manager of a club like Newcastle to have. Add to that his attention to detail regarding the dietary, fitness and medical aspect of being professional athletes and I think he would have laid down new standards and progressive ideas in these fields. Plus the most important thing, Bolton have steadily improved all the time he has been there - he's a stayer. Despite what people say, if we played like Bolton do, and we might not if he was able to buy better quality footballers, nobody would give a toss if we were winning. You fucking slated me the other day on N-O when I said the club should look at Bolton to how we should run this football club, you're now saying the same!!! you insinuated that Bolton had had a more successful last decade than the disastrous one we have had. Plainly shite. All I would like from them is possibly or probably their manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 (edited) You fucking slated me the other day on N-O when I said the club should look at Bolton to how we should run this football club, you're now saying the same!!! you insinuated that Bolton had had a more successful last decade than the disastrous one we have had. Plainly shite. All I would like from them is possibly or probably their manager More lies from Leazes as usual This was the conversation... Leazes - Anyway I am tired of you and your mates' double standards and general "damned if they do damned if they don't" idiocy. Stop buying quality players and don't complain when you see true mediocrity as a result, if that is what you want. Baggio - Or keep buying them and watch them sold off on the cheap a la Leeds, would you prefer us to go that way as long as we keep spending money? As for your "deluded as ever" comment, I put that down to you not being able to answer the question properly. All the talk of a possible buy out would include paying off or huge debts, of course they will want something in return but the only way to make money in football is for the club to be successful. Leazes - how do you think the club will be successful without spending money Baggio - There are 2 options. The first one would be for them to invest their own money into the club to give us that lift up into the CL places, from then on with the the extra income they can operate at a break even policy where they only spend what the club has made through profit. The second option would be to get a decent managerial set up installed similar to what Bolton have got and move the club forward from there. Thread link Now where did I insinuate that Bolton had had a more successful last decade than us and that ours was disastrous? Edited December 27, 2006 by Baggio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11112 Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 is this the point where we all hold hands and sing Auld Lang Syne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 The second option would be to get a decent managerial set up installed similar to what Bolton have got and move the club forward from there. as i said, its all about appointing a good manager, that is all there is to it and its got nowt to do with any "plan". Like we did too ref Bobby Robson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 The second option would be to get a decent managerial set up installed similar to what Bolton have got and move the club forward from there. as i said, its all about appointing a good manager, that is all there is to it and its got nowt to do with any "plan". Like we did too ref Bobby Robson. But where did I insinuate that Bolton had had a more successful last decade than us and that ours was disastrous which you accused me of? Or will you admit that I didn't, you got your wires crossed and apologise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 0 Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 The second option would be to get a decent managerial set up installed similar to what Bolton have got and move the club forward from there. as i said, its all about appointing a good manager, that is all there is to it and its got nowt to do with any "plan". Like we did too ref Bobby Robson. Allardyce is meticulous in the way he organises each player's nutrition and training- everyone has their own specific program and it changes as the season goes on. If that's not planning I'm not sure what is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 (edited) The second option would be to get a decent managerial set up installed similar to what Bolton have got and move the club forward from there. as i said, its all about appointing a good manager, that is all there is to it and its got nowt to do with any "plan". Like we did too ref Bobby Robson. Allardyce is meticulous in the way he organises each player's nutrition and training- everyone has their own specific program and it changes as the season goes on. If that's not planning I'm not sure what is. planning by the manager ? Yes. As i said mate, its the manager that counts. Not a team or secretaries, media men, accountants etc etc drawing up "business plans" .... As soon as Allardyce goes, he takes his strategy with him, and his ability to spot the kind of player he wants in his dressing room. All the managers have their ideas/strategies, its just that some of them have ones that work and some don't. So its down to the ability of the manager in the end. Edited December 27, 2006 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 The second option would be to get a decent managerial set up installed similar to what Bolton have got and move the club forward from there. as i said, its all about appointing a good manager, that is all there is to it and its got nowt to do with any "plan". Like we did too ref Bobby Robson. The failure to "plan" or have any "foresight" (or even just learn from the lessons of the past tbh) was in Robson's sacking. In the timing, in overriding spending on transfers to maintain Champions League standing and in not looking for other managerial options long before they did (kinda later mirriored by the Shearer issue). Anyway I doubt Allardyce would even come to NUFC, he's realise FFS and Cluless Hall would likely want in on his transfer dealing bungs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 0 Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 As i said mate, its the manager that counts. Not a team or secretaries, media men, accountants etc etc drawing up "business plans" .... You seem to be advocating the idea that a club should appoint a manager, give him whatever money is in the biscuit tin and not make any attempt to understand what is actually going on with the football side? Does that not reduce a board's duties to hiring and firing the odd manager and holding an AGM? I'm not sure what secretaries have to do with it. It seems you are just trying to cheapen the idea that a football business is more than a squad and a manager. Or maybe you feel that is all that actually matters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 0 Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Frank Quedrue can fuck off. Cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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