TOPTOON 0 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 i'd go: Given Nobby Taylor Ramage Huntingdon Milner Butt Emre Duff Dyer Martins Pav Baba Parker - i really rate Parker but Butt and Emre deserve another go, we should however bring him on. The Sib - unlucky to be benched look to bring on at some point. O'brien/ Pattison/ Luque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieshandy 0 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Don't think Duff deserves to get straight back in to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigsaw's Juggernaut 0 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 tbh I'd rather have Babs at left back then play Huntington out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 0 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Don't think Duff deserves to get straight back in to be honest Who else could play there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPTOON 0 Posted December 21, 2006 Author Share Posted December 21, 2006 Don't think Duff deserves to get straight back in to be honest Could be right, depends how fit he is too. What you thinking ? Drop Duff to the bench put Dyer on the Left/right and Put Le Sib up top with Martins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22383 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 i'd play --------------given nobby---ramage---taylor----huntingdon dyer-----butt-------emre-----duff ----------martins---sibbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22383 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 ...or maybe duff at left back and milner on the left wing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Bet Parker plays tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico martin 90 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Bet Parker plays tbh. would prefer Bet Lynch to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Parker will play, he's the captain which makes him pretty much immune unless injured. Just like on Wednesday night, he should have come off, but I said to the lad next to me that there's no way Roeder will take him off because of Parkers Chelsea connection. I like Parker, but 3 into 2 don't go and someone's got to stand aside, and I don't think it should be Emre or Butt. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gram 0 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 This Parker thing has gone right over the top. The bairns and the loons (Leazes mates presumably) on NO are incredible. He is still a good player and still does a good job for us. Agree that its about the team but the way people have turned is staggering. Does tend to make them look a bit daft. I understand that half of them are still at school and the other half look like they still should be but..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInspiration 1 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 I like Parker. Very good player and great attitude, but it would be unfair for Emre or Butt to be dropped for him, as they are doing well at the moment. On the other hand, Roeder's not going to leave him on the bench, so he's probably going to try accomodating the three together, or rotating Emre and Butt, and possibly Parker too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 A few people Crumpty and HTL have never really rated Parker tbf. The rest seem to be knee-kerk-tastic comments though. I like him though, I must admit, but I agree with SLP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 He's still a quality player, but we're putting in better performances and getting results without him. Wednesday night proved yet again that all 3 of them can't play together, it just becomes too tight. The facts are, Emre and Butt have looked different players when playing together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 They can't play together in a 4-4-2, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9953 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 I'd still rather play Butt and Dyer in the middle than either of them tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinofbeans 91 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 if we played 3-5-2 then he'd work as the go-getter in midfield, butt could do the donkey work defensively and emre could do what he does better further up the pitch. sadly we don't have any proper wing backs or fast cetrebacks to cover the gaps at the back. I agree with most peoples sentiments parker is decent, but in a 4-4-2 the way forward is with butt and emre on current form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 (edited) if we played 3-5-2 then he'd work as the go-getter in midfield, butt could do the donkey work defensively and emre could do what he does better further up the pitch. sadly we don't have any proper wing backs or fast cetrebacks to cover the gaps at the back. I agree with most peoples sentiments parker is decent, but in a 4-4-2 the way forward is with butt and emre on current form. Could play Duff and Solano as wing-backs tbh with Taylor, Ramage and Huntingdon at the back. Butt would protect the back 3 and Emre would play in the hole behind the front two. Parker would be allowed to play his natural game and run all over the shop. Just don't tell Papa Laz. Edit: I forgot about Dyer Edited December 22, 2006 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gram 0 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 A few people Crumpty and HTL have never really rated Parker tbf. The rest seem to be knee-kerk-tastic comments though. I like him though, I must admit, but I agree with SLP. I think that may have a lot to do with who signed him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22259 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 A few people Crumpty and HTL have never really rated Parker tbf. The rest seem to be knee-kerk-tastic comments though. I like him though, I must admit, but I agree with SLP. I think that may have a lot to do with who signed him! I've never really rated him either. I couldn't see what the fuss was about in his first year, and he's done little to convince me of his worth as a player or captain. I suspect people like him because he gives so much effort, but technically I just don't think he's good enough. He doesn't score, holds play up too much, and it's simply a fact we play better without him in the team. If he plays on Saturday, I don't think we'll win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janu 0 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Given; Babayaro, Ramage, Taylor, Solano; Duff, Emre, Parker, Milner; Martins, Dyer. Subs: Srnicek, Huntington, Butt, Sibierski, Rossi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gram 0 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 A few people Crumpty and HTL have never really rated Parker tbf. The rest seem to be knee-kerk-tastic comments though. I like him though, I must admit, but I agree with SLP. I think that may have a lot to do with who signed him! I've never really rated him either. I couldn't see what the fuss was about in his first year, and he's done little to convince me of his worth as a player or captain. I suspect people like him because he gives so much effort, but technically I just don't think he's good enough. He doesn't score, holds play up too much, and it's simply a fact we play better without him in the team. If he plays on Saturday, I don't think we'll win. Agree that too many people are easily pleased by a bit of effort. We continue to see it with real substandard players like Milner and Ramage. I always worry about players when fans bring out daft stats. Watching either of them its fairly obvious that they are lacking. Neither are good enough for the club which is something I wouldnt label Parker with. He's not my favourite and certainly isnt as good as many would have us believe but thats football fans. However, depends what you mean 'technically'. Hear everyone say it (more so after some newspaper uttered the words 'technically inept') and never sure if the people saying it actually understand what it means. If it means his ability to control and pass a ball then I will disagree if its some mystical thing that I dont understand then I will accept that. Not a dig by the way Renton. Just curious as to what it means. If he plays then I suspect we will be fine. It depends on the combination though. If we go back to the Arsenal game then Butt and Parker did very well together. If its Parker and Emre than I am less sure. I havent seen the facts that say we are a better team without him. Those games coincided with a bit of pace and confidence coming back into the side and he was part of that at the beginning. If we had a full squad and we saw all the complimenting players able to play together then I think thats a better indication than a few games where a once hated player has done very well. Having said all of that I would play Dyer and Butt there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Ramage has done well at centre-half to be fair to the lad. He isn't great in possession but then neither are Moore or Bramble and he and Taylor look far more assured at the back than them two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gram 0 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Ramage has done well at centre-half to be fair to the lad. He isn't great in possession but then neither are Moore or Bramble and he and Taylor look far more assured at the back than them two. He has been OK. Just dont think he is a lower level Premiership standard player never mind a Newcastle standard player. Bramble despite his errors is twice the player Ramage will ever be. Neither are consistently good enough. We need 3 centre backs at a minimum in the summer. Taylor, despite his improved form for half a dozen games, still has a lot to prove too. We have seen some shockers from him in the past and all too often we have seen the likes of Titus have runs like the ones Taylor is on right now. Not sure he has the pace tbh Would prefer better than all 4 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22259 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 A few people Crumpty and HTL have never really rated Parker tbf. The rest seem to be knee-kerk-tastic comments though. I like him though, I must admit, but I agree with SLP. I think that may have a lot to do with who signed him! I've never really rated him either. I couldn't see what the fuss was about in his first year, and he's done little to convince me of his worth as a player or captain. I suspect people like him because he gives so much effort, but technically I just don't think he's good enough. He doesn't score, holds play up too much, and it's simply a fact we play better without him in the team. If he plays on Saturday, I don't think we'll win. Agree that too many people are easily pleased by a bit of effort. We continue to see it with real substandard players like Milner and Ramage. I always worry about players when fans bring out daft stats. Watching either of them its fairly obvious that they are lacking. Neither are good enough for the club which is something I wouldnt label Parker with. He's not my favourite and certainly isnt as good as many would have us believe but thats football fans. However, depends what you mean 'technically'. Hear everyone say it (more so after some newspaper uttered the words 'technically inept') and never sure if the people saying it actually understand what it means. If it means his ability to control and pass a ball then I will disagree if its some mystical thing that I dont understand then I will accept that. Not a dig by the way Renton. Just curious as to what it means. If he plays then I suspect we will be fine. It depends on the combination though. If we go back to the Arsenal game then Butt and Parker did very well together. If its Parker and Emre than I am less sure. I havent seen the facts that say we are a better team without him. Those games coincided with a bit of pace and confidence coming back into the side and he was part of that at the beginning. If we had a full squad and we saw all the complimenting players able to play together then I think thats a better indication than a few games where a once hated player has done very well. Having said all of that I would play Dyer and Butt there. OK, I probably used the wrong word when I said technically, because I agree with your definition. I would clarify then that he is limited and he is not an intelligent football player, despite being at his prime now (unlike Milner or Ramage). It may be a cliche, but rarely has headless chicken been more appropriate to describe a player. If we are going to build our team around him then that is a major cause for concern imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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