Guest alex Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Should all be told to move once and if they don't do it he should book the lot of them. It would stop the problem of encroaching within about a fortnight imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted December 21, 2006 Author Share Posted December 21, 2006 Law 10 - The Method of Scoring Goal Scored A goal is scored when the whole of the ball passes over the goal line, between the goalposts and under the crossbar, provided that no infringement of the Laws of the Game has been committed previously by the team scoring the goal. For my money there is no doubt the ball crossed the line, the only debate is did all of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 a rare mistake from given for their goal. i can't believe the sky pundits all missed it. they were raving about drogba's effort which, to be fair, wasn't that great. given's positioning let him down. if he'd been standing in the right spot, he would have saved it - it's not like it was top corner or anything. i would have started le sib last night ahead of parker. emre doesn't looks as comortable playing off a front man as he does in centre mid. we didn't have kind of outlet up top. sib looked dangerous when he came on. Fantastic strike from the league's best striker at the moment. However, Given should have saved it, I'll agree on that. Why the hell he was that far out from the one spot he had to cover, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44894 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Law 10 - The Method of Scoring Goal Scored A goal is scored when the whole of the ball passes over the goal line, between the goalposts and under the crossbar, provided that no infringement of the Laws of the Game has been committed previously by the team scoring the goal. For my money there is no doubt the ball crossed the line, the only debate is did all of it. Nah, it didn't. But Hilario looks like he's just been run over in that graphic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Papa's done a Leazes on me! Btw, I also think Le Sib goes down far too easily for a man of his size. Christ, I hate defending Chelsea but there's a lot of pots and kettles in this thread. How dare you!!! I haven't seen much of what happened to the Sib since tv coverage rarely shows anything that (heaven forbid) could go against teams like Chelski, but he was one of many of our players who seemed to pushed in the back which as far as i'm aware is a foul. Agree with the people who've commented on refs and freekicks not taken from the right plcae and walls not moving back. But this is stuff fans have gone on about for years and could be sorted out in weeks, but won't as we are officiated by a bunch of spineless pricks. Its very simple, you count out 10 yards (and sadly this first part is beyond most refs), you get the wall to stand there. They don't, you book them, they still don't you send them off, job done. Next week you'll find any team you ref already lined up 10 yards away! And away from refs, i agree with people saying we were too negative, made the changes to late and could have made a bit more of the second half. I noticed people saying Dyer didn't do that much and one f the reasons was the tactics and where they had him playing, and alot of people seemed to think he was actually being used defensively to help double up on Robben etc. instead of being unleashe in attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 a rare mistake from given for their goal. i can't believe the sky pundits all missed it. they were raving about drogba's effort which, to be fair, wasn't that great. given's positioning let him down. if he'd been standing in the right spot, he would have saved it - it's not like it was top corner or anything. i would have started le sib last night ahead of parker. emre doesn't looks as comortable playing off a front man as he does in centre mid. we didn't have kind of outlet up top. sib looked dangerous when he came on. Fantastic strike from the league's best striker at the moment. However, Given should have saved it, I'll agree on that. Why the hell he was that far out from the one spot he had to cover, I don't know. it wasn't that fantastic. given would have saved it if he'd positioned himself better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walliver 0 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Martins' shot wasn't a goal. Matt's picture shows this (even if it wasn't the furthest the ball got it was pretty close to what Sky were showing). The post is the same thickness as the line, therefore if the ball is completely over the line it is completely past the post. It wasn't so it didn't. No goal. If Drogba took the freekick from where it was supposed to have been taken how good would his angle on the goal have been? I agree about Le Penalty - it should have been given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I think the post/bar is thicker than the line isn't it? It appears to be anyway iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 UEFA cup man, that's where's it at! lets go for the double! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieshandy 0 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I think the post/bar is thicker than the line isn't it? It appears to be anyway iirc. It's supposed to be the same thickness isn't it? And surely when the ball strikes the ground it's as far as it goes into the goal, it's a fairly simple trajectory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 a rare mistake from given for their goal. i can't believe the sky pundits all missed it. they were raving about drogba's effort which, to be fair, wasn't that great. given's positioning let him down. if he'd been standing in the right spot, he would have saved it - it's not like it was top corner or anything. i would have started le sib last night ahead of parker. emre doesn't looks as comortable playing off a front man as he does in centre mid. we didn't have kind of outlet up top. sib looked dangerous when he came on. Fantastic strike from the league's best striker at the moment. However, Given should have saved it, I'll agree on that. Why the hell he was that far out from the one spot he had to cover, I don't know. it wasn't that fantastic. given would have saved it if he'd positioned himself better Could say the same about most goals though tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 a rare mistake from given for their goal. i can't believe the sky pundits all missed it. they were raving about drogba's effort which, to be fair, wasn't that great. given's positioning let him down. if he'd been standing in the right spot, he would have saved it - it's not like it was top corner or anything. i would have started le sib last night ahead of parker. emre doesn't looks as comortable playing off a front man as he does in centre mid. we didn't have kind of outlet up top. sib looked dangerous when he came on. Fantastic strike from the league's best striker at the moment. However, Given should have saved it, I'll agree on that. Why the hell he was that far out from the one spot he had to cover, I don't know. it wasn't that fantastic. given would have saved it if he'd positioned himself better Could say the same about most goals though tbh well i'd argue that some strikes are so fantastic that they make a keeper's positioning irrelevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Regardless of whether the ball was over the line or not, we clearly should have had a pen after not one but two of their players pushed Le Sib and they got away with murder on the goal (mind you, I would have expected Shay to save it anyway!). Players taking freekicks from the wrong position is one of the biggest failings of referee's IMO. It was a certain freekick though (thought Butt had a shocking last 20 minutes) and as soon as Drogba stood near it we knew it was a goal. Concentrate on the league now tbh Not getting walls to stick to the 10 yards either. For Emre's freekick last night, the ref measured the 10 yards out, stood behind the Chelsea wall and told them to get back to where he was. They just stood looking ahead, pretending they hadn't heard him. So instead of blowing his whistle right in their fucking ears and telling them to do as they're told, he took two shuffle sidesteps to the left so that he was in line with them, and let them off with it. As he walked off they then all shuffled forwards and he did fuck all about that either. If I was a referee I'd blow the whistle, tell them all to remove their hands from in front of their bollocks, and walk along the wall punting each of them right in the cock. They'd not try and steal yards again. Any excuse to touch other mens' genitalia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Law 10 - The Method of Scoring Goal Scored A goal is scored when the whole of the ball passes over the goal line, between the goalposts and under the crossbar, provided that no infringement of the Laws of the Game has been committed previously by the team scoring the goal. For my money there is no doubt the ball crossed the line, the only debate is did all of it. should have been given,anyway when you see a player dribble the ball down the touchline and it's over the line like shown on the pic above,then 10 out of 10 it will be a throw in or a corner kick.I cant for the life of me see a linesman wait untill the 'whole' of the ball has crossed the line to give a throw in or a corner kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 I'm over it,we are out full stop. next! ......clearly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 a rare mistake from given for their goal. i can't believe the sky pundits all missed it. they were raving about drogba's effort which, to be fair, wasn't that great. given's positioning let him down. if he'd been standing in the right spot, he would have saved it - it's not like it was top corner or anything. i would have started le sib last night ahead of parker. emre doesn't looks as comortable playing off a front man as he does in centre mid. we didn't have kind of outlet up top. sib looked dangerous when he came on. Fantastic strike from the league's best striker at the moment. However, Given should have saved it, I'll agree on that. Why the hell he was that far out from the one spot he had to cover, I don't know. it wasn't that fantastic. given would have saved it if he'd positioned himself better Could say the same about most goals though tbh Most goals aren't fantastic strikes though. Neither was this one imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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