Dr Gloom 22299 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 who's getting excited about the upcoming six weeks of cricket? who thinks we can retain the urn? i think we've got a great chance of at least drawing the series, but we need harmeson firing. if he hasn't got his radar on and hoggy can't find any movement in the air we could be in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I reckon we've got no chance. Still looking forward to it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 We're fucked tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22299 Posted November 20, 2006 Author Share Posted November 20, 2006 We're fucked tbh why do you say that? the ozzies are an aging and unbalanced outfit - take warne out of the equation and they're perfectly beatable. a lot will depend on whether a 36 year old mcgrath has the stamina. all our batsmen are in good knick and we've finally got a spinner than can turn the ball. i fancy our chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 We're fucked tbh why do you say that? the ozzies are an aging and unbalanced outfit - take warne out of the equation and they're perfectly beatable. a lot will depend on whether a 36 year old mcgrath has the stamina. all our batsmen are in good knick and we've finally got a spinner than can turn the ball. i fancy our chances. The Aussies are aging but they've still got alot of quality players that will bury England alive on our current form. The only chance we've got is drawing the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 If McGrath had have been fully fit for the whole series, England wouldn't have an Ashes to defend tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22299 Posted November 20, 2006 Author Share Posted November 20, 2006 We're fucked tbh why do you say that? the ozzies are an aging and unbalanced outfit - take warne out of the equation and they're perfectly beatable. a lot will depend on whether a 36 year old mcgrath has the stamina. all our batsmen are in good knick and we've finally got a spinner than can turn the ball. i fancy our chances. The Aussies are aging but they've still got alot of quality players that will bury England alive on our current form. The only chance we've got is drawing the series. i'm usually a natural born pessimist but i reckon we've got the great chance. we've got the psychological edge over a fair few of their batsmen. martyn, gilchrist and harden all struggled againt our seamers last time around and we've got far greater depth to our bowling. with watson injured, they're probably going to go with just the three fast bowlers again. the wild card is of course warne. he could win the series for them single handed. when he does eventually retire, the ozzies won't look half the side they are with him in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22299 Posted November 20, 2006 Author Share Posted November 20, 2006 If McGrath had have been fully fit for the whole series, England wouldn't have an Ashes to defend tbh ...don't forget he's a year older now too and he's hardly played any cricket in a year. is his aging body up to a 5 test series? take mcgrath and warne out of their side and they're ordinary. if mcgrath isn't on song or misses a couple of tests through injury, they're beatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Clark is good, but not up to McGrath's level yet. England will miss Simon Jones more than anyone else in the next 5 tests. I'd argue if you were to ask any of the Australian top order he would be the bowler they would remove from the team given the choice. Flintoff isn't a patch on Vaughan tactically as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 If McGrath had have been fully fit for the whole series, England wouldn't have an Ashes to defend tbh ...don't forget he's a year older now too and he's hardly played any cricket in a year. is his aging body up to a 5 test series? take mcgrath and warne out of their side and they're ordinary. if mcgrath isn't on song or misses a couple of tests through injury, they're beatable. Take their two main bowlers out of their side and they're ordinary? Well.........yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 http://www.toontastic.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=9912 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Read the last post in that thread perchance? The irony of you giving it more life by complaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22299 Posted November 20, 2006 Author Share Posted November 20, 2006 If McGrath had have been fully fit for the whole series, England wouldn't have an Ashes to defend tbh ...don't forget he's a year older now too and he's hardly played any cricket in a year. is his aging body up to a 5 test series? take mcgrath and warne out of their side and they're ordinary. if mcgrath isn't on song or misses a couple of tests through injury, they're beatable. Take their two main bowlers out of their side and they're ordinary? Well.........yeah! i mean look at the players who are coming through and will replace them in a couple of years... johnson, tait, clark, watson....all look fairly ordinary. once mcgrath and warne retire they're not going to be all that anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 It's a bit easy to say the when the biggest-wicket taking paceman and the biggest wicket-taking spinner retire they're going to go through a lean spell, isn't it. Just because the players coming through aren't showing as much promise as those two doesn't mean they will be total shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Australia will always have a good side because of their coaching, development and overall cricketing set-up. But they will obviously miss two of the greatest bowlers of all time when they both retire. It's been a priviledge to have watched them play, especially Warne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Australia will always have a good side because of their coaching, development and overall cricketing set-up. But they will obviously miss two of the greatest bowlers of all time when they both retire. It's been a priviledge to have watched them play, especially Warne. Aye. Agreed. It's ironic that you couldnt possibly coach what Warne has into any up and coming bowler, it's just pure talent, but it's fair to say their set up should always produce very capable cricketers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 (edited) Aye, they do coach leg-spin widely though. Stuart MacGill probably would have been a top Test bowler had he played for any one else (or in a different era). Edited November 20, 2006 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 2nd best leg-spinner of the last ten years tbh, consistently out-performs Warne when they play together as well. Mind you, that's partly due to opposing batsmen thinking they can have a bit of a breather when Warne goes off and MacGill comes on the other end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22299 Posted November 20, 2006 Author Share Posted November 20, 2006 It's a bit easy to say the when the biggest-wicket taking paceman and the biggest wicket-taking spinner retire they're going to go through a lean spell, isn't it. Just because the players coming through aren't showing as much promise as those two doesn't mean they will be total shite. i didn't say they would be total shite, just not the force they have been and certainly very beatable. bowlers win matches and i think after warne and mcgrath go, we'll have the better bowling talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I'll say now I think Australia will still be the top ranked test side in the world in ten years time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I can't wait, just annoying with the time difference but i'm glad the BBC have got highlights every day. What do people reckon, Giles or Panesar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Monty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I can't wait, just annoying with the time difference but i'm glad the BBC have got highlights every day. What do people reckon, Giles or Panesar? Monty if we actually want to attack them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WubbleUC 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Wouldn't say there was particular ashes fever amongst my lot. More of a small cold tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsy 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 We're fucked tbh why do you say that? the ozzies are an aging and unbalanced outfit - take warne out of the equation and they're perfectly beatable. a lot will depend on whether a 36 year old mcgrath has the stamina. all our batsmen are in good knick and we've finally got a spinner than can turn the ball. i fancy our chances. We will be fine without Warney, Stewie will still be around for a couple of more years after Warne retires and from there we will have a few of the younger lads coming through again. Aaron Heal from the Warriors has already taken 15 wickets this season at the WACA ground out of all grounds! Culls is on the fringe there aswell so we shall be fine. If McGrath had have been fully fit for the whole series, England wouldn't have an Ashes to defend tbh ...don't forget he's a year older now too and he's hardly played any cricket in a year. is his aging body up to a 5 test series? take mcgrath and warne out of their side and they're ordinary. if mcgrath isn't on song or misses a couple of tests through injury, they're beatable. McGrath is easily fit for the 5 test series, there is no doubts. So there is no need to worry about him in that department. Take both Warne and McGrath out and yes we will be starved of two very good bowlers however we have the cover coming through to take their positions albeit it not as economical as them nor as consistant but we will still take the wickets we need and score the runs we need. England are struggling with injuries, Aussies 4-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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