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Or right click the link, save target as, stick it on your desktop, and then open it. Means it'll be there whenever you need it for future games. 92765[/snapback] That one works for home games as well whereas radio Newcastle via the Beeb cuts out for contractual reasons - I've bookmarked it.

Shola!!

Top 6? - probably Top 3/4? - Unlikely

I was going to name Bergkamp but thought I'd get called - I think he has a really nasty streak and did probably the worst two-footed tackle I've ever seen on Dabizas I think at Highbury 5 or 6 years ago. Going old school: Kenny Burns Steve Foster (Which leads to Kenny Wharton as a hero) Frank Worthington Sly little shit section Speedie Wise Izzet Always destroyed us section: Poyet Le Tissier Owen (I reserve the right to repent my hatred) Big girls blouse section: Savage Ashley Cole Tim Cahill Minimal talent/made too much money section: Calrton Palmer David Platt Mark Hately Probably more to follow

Apart from SWP, who have they done that with? 90681[/snapback] Just recently their interest in Theo Walcott made me think of it.

I remeber thinking that Rangers under Murray/Souness/Smith a few years ago had a policy of buying all the good players from Hearts/Aberdeen etc just to make sure those teams never developed into challengers - the players themselves always seemed to disappear but better in Rangers reserves than possibly taking points off them. Chelsea now seem to be following that example imo.

I think too many are reading too much into a decent performance against an extremely piss poor team - all this will change if we struggle in the meantime.

Thought I was getting all lasses - Isabella Rossilini and Winona Ryder being the best - for blokes I got Leanardo DiCaprio and Patrick Stewart.

I think theres an undercurrent which refuses to go away - I don't think booing of black players happens anymore but you still get odd remarks. I'm not over-sensitive - I think people can use phrases like "black cunt" in the heat of the moment without being BNP supporters but its easy to tell when its "meant" - I heard a couple like that at West Ham.

The guy is obviously an idiot but at the same time I think there is a touch of truth in what he says in regards to England - I honestly think the change in crowd "makeup" has had more to do with the reduction in blatant racism than any FA ran campaigns. A few years ago a far too large proportion of the away following especially were either blatantly racist or too "silent" in their response whereas in recent years a few idiotic comments are more likely to be condemned by fellow fans - in my experience the "more sensible" kind. Not so much to do with class I just think "nicer" people go to football in recent years.

You can be knocked off balance by a slap but then you should get straight back up - like Bowyer did at Anfield (though in his case he was probably thinking of continuing the "Chat") As I've said elsewhere it makes me think of blokes who get involved in a "fair" fight where nobody gets hurt who then go to the Police - shitbags one and all.

Gerrard versus us - why no red given the comments here? Its about common sense - I don't think it should be an auto red - the ref should be able to see what goes on - it wouldn't take a replay to realise Robben was a cheating shit - someone should have ran over and kicked the fucker's arse.

As I've said on other threads on religion its about time people dropped the excessive "respect" that they think these people warrant. At the start of the Hamza trial the prosecutor said that Islam and the Koran weren't on trial as it was a peaceful religion - my response would be "prove it".

A clincher for any woman surely?

Ita about levels - if Roeder did well and satisfied HTL's list I'd see him being an Allardyce/Robson/O'Leary at a push type level - ie get us 6/5/4 in the league which may be all we can do or even expect realistically. THe reason I want Hitzfeld or similar (not sure who) is that I'd then expect to challenge higher. I know in the past I've said going for Hitzfeld was pointless and I stand by the same argument on the Man U/Madrid jobs but I'm now willing to be hopeful. Going back to Roeder he seems reluctant but I would ask how would he go about getting this Pro Licence thing - is it straightforward does anybody know?

I remember the same thing happening with Gary Megson when McFaul "dropped" him from sub and he hoyed a fit - I agree that you can say its because he does care that he was so angry - though I can see the "support the team" side as well.

Mainly confidence imo - if we can hang on then we could build on it.

I think Rob made a good point earlier about the "youth" of Islam compared to the other big two - however if you call modern Christianity "reasonably" mature we have to wait abot 600 years for Islam to catch up though it may happen sooner due to the insidous effect of western "pleasures" on the less brainwashed. I don't think we've got that long or even a reduced timespan - I think it'll come to a head.

Then again if a christian obeys the OT literally they couldn't play football with one that used a pigs bladder either. I get the impression that like some jews you can remain "loyal" to Islam and lead a "normal" western life in all reasonableness - as usual its just the extremes from any gang that grate.

I abhor the concept of blasphemy because I can't understand how you can blasphem something you don't believe in. I'm not sure about going out of your way to cause offence but its a good time to debate the issue - one criticism is that they wouldn't do this to jews which though true is something else I don't get - why not? As has also been pointed out newspapers in the middle east often lampoon jews as pig or apes so its the usual double standards from them.

Thought you'd got me wrong - no worries - I had always assumed he'd go back to Celtic anyway. I'd like someone with a bit of modern approach - ideally Hitzfeld but knowing our luck he'd turn out like Gross or Perrin. I get that Allardyce has some good ideas but I just don't trust his football and I don't like going back for people who've turned us down. Its bad when my list of "no fucking way" candidates is longer than those I think will come.

Football murderer? What are you on about? The rest of your post made no sense to me but it's clear you have some major problem with O'Neill given a long history of over the top negative posts about him. I think you are wrong. Anyway, I'd love it if we appointed someone I think can do the job and who I can support wholeheartedly from the start, rather than getting some knacker in who I know will fail. No pleasure in being proven right if that happens. 88265[/snapback] Leicester City - atrocious football with Heskey/Marshall/Elliot etc, etc. Couple of trophies in Scotland and a league cup means he has better credentials than who exactly? - I'm not saying he's as good or bad as Souness but I'd love to know what makes him someone you can ge behind from the off whereas Souness was a no-hoper. The second part was very non-personal and human - the way people expect a man who gave up his "dream job" to lovingly care for his wife is assumed to be going to drop that just because NUFC come calling - thats what I was getting at. 88271[/snapback] I think the second bit is completely uncalled for actually unless you know something about his personal life I don't. Plenty of men wouldn't have done as much for his wife as he has done; if I understand you correctly I think you're out of order there. Regarding the rest, you have to take into account what he has achieved considering the limitations he has had to work with. How much money did he have at Leicester (he won the cup twice there btw didn't he)? What happened when he left? What about his relative Euopean successes at Celtic (yes, that tiny league north of the border)? Unlucky to lose in a UEFA cup final? I think a good way of judging a manager is to ask the fans at clubs they have been with. Now, in Souness's case, he is universally despised at nearly all the clubs he has been with bar Rangers. You find me an unhappy Wycombe, Leicester, or Celtic fan though (I'm sure there are some but not nearly as many). Souness WAS a complete no hoper - something you should have cottoned on to sooner tbh. Now Newcastle are just another club on his long list of casualties - he very nearly killed us. To compare him with O'Neill is absurd imo - I really hope we appoint O'Neill and you can be proved wrong again! 88281[/snapback] I don;t get what you're saying about me being out of order there Renton - trying to clarify I think the fact that he gave up the Celtic job to look after his wife was absolutely fantastic and I wished I'd loved someone that much (wiothout the illness) to put them before everything else so selflessly and I think it was a very noble act and one I admire greatly. What I'm trying to say is that nothing has changed in that situation but people are assuming he'll now come back to football at the drop of a hat just because its us calling - thats what I'm getting at - if I was him I wouldn't be even thinking of it. Now going back to Football the same argument you have there on "did well with no money so give him some" is also applied to Allardyce who also plays what I think of of very poor football. I honestly don't think people can change that much - they do what they are good at which in there case I think is limited. I accept your point about fans but Leicester would have been glad of anything and just beating Rangers gets you adulation in Scotland. I honestly hope for a better appointment.

Football murderer? What are you on about? The rest of your post made no sense to me but it's clear you have some major problem with O'Neill given a long history of over the top negative posts about him. I think you are wrong. Anyway, I'd love it if we appointed someone I think can do the job and who I can support wholeheartedly from the start, rather than getting some knacker in who I know will fail. No pleasure in being proven right if that happens. 88265[/snapback] Leicester City - atrocious football with Heskey/Marshall/Elliot etc, etc. Couple of trophies in Scotland and a league cup means he has better credentials than who exactly? - I'm not saying he's as good or bad as Souness but I'd love to know what makes him someone you can ge behind from the off whereas Souness was a no-hoper. The second part was very non-personal and human - the way people expect a man who gave up his "dream job" to lovingly care for his wife is assumed to be going to drop that just because NUFC come calling - thats what I was getting at.

One of the things that Souness succeeded in was making us that desperate that so many people want a football murderer like O'Neill so badly. On a personal basis if his wife is still ill then its a no-go. If she was declared as "well" today do you think any bloke would take a job like ours the next day? If it was me I'd be spending every second possible with her in any event. But no, Newcastle need a manager so obviously that will become his No 1 priority.

Make you wonder what they would have charged Hitler with. On the second point thats what I thought was strange about Bush's speech - correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Iran a "democracy" of some form?