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That finger looks like its interested - to boldly go.....

Never finished above eighth, pub leagues aside.

Aside from my other doubts if the crack about Boro about him wanting a 3 or 4 day week is true then no loss imo.

All terrorists love martyrs - in this scenario add in the religion bollocks and that factor is increased 10 fold. I think if Leazes had his way and a few examples were "executed" there would be a bomb every other day - it would be like living in Jersusalem when thats at its worst. As for the answer I don't know - but I think the "corruption" of more moderate Islamic countries by western values (ie capitalism + freedom) like the Gulf states and Egypt to an extent holds out our best hope.

More likely a Hattie Jacques type matron given his tastes for the older woman.

I'd take it - I'm one of these idiots who honestly believes that once the jinx is broken we'd win more - and I'd see them.

Darwinism at its best - with bonus irony because of it.

That definitely happened in South Shields, though not sure if the man himself was there but my Dad told me of "normal" blokes getting together to run fascists out of town when they tried to march in blackshirts. Always made me proud.

They worked alright in Iraq, right ? No good pretending the technology couldn't be perfected, rather than bury your head in the sand. 144538[/snapback] Theres a diffenece between military dispersal techniques and a couple of nutters trying to put a terrorist weapon together - a bomb blows things up - the chemicals would go with it. This has all the signs of that one where they sent tanks to Heathrow or the one where Old Trafford was "targetted" (no charges ever brought) - absolute propaganda fuelled bullshit. I know there are people out there with the intent to do these things but we all know that your "final solution" to a relatively small problem is to ship out millions of people who happen to cotribute more to Britain than millions of "true" british. 144543[/snapback] "Relatively small problem".....usual left wing head in the sand bollocks 144553[/snapback] Relative to deporting a couple of million people (the majority of whom are citizens) I'd say it was small.

They worked alright in Iraq, right ? No good pretending the technology couldn't be perfected, rather than bury your head in the sand. 144538[/snapback] Theres a diffenece between military dispersal techniques and a couple of nutters trying to put a terrorist weapon together - a bomb blows things up - the chemicals would go with it. This has all the signs of that one where they sent tanks to Heathrow or the one where Old Trafford was "targetted" (no charges ever brought) - absolute propaganda fuelled bullshit. I know there are people out there with the intent to do these things but we all know that your "final solution" to a relatively small problem is to ship out millions of people who happen to cotribute more to Britain than millions of "true" british.

Chemical weapons don't work - its propganda to create an atmosphere of fear and to make the gullible hate muslims.

Did this on another board a while ago but it still stands: Boy - U2 Futurama - Be Bop Deluxe The Crossing - Big Country Master of Reality - Black Sabbath Achtung Baby - U2 Siamese Dream - Smashing Pumpkins Doolittle - The Pixies The Real Ramona - Throwing Muses Star - Belly The Holy Bible - Manics

I still don't know how the hell they got way with the Graham payments which they knew about - Oh hang on yes I do - David Dein.

Several countries in South and Central America. Vietnam/Cambodia Iraq the first time around leaving the "resistance" to die. Whats that thing about being doomed to repeat mistakes?

We have the highest prison per capita population in western europe and surprise, surprise one of the highest crime rates. America with the death penalty is number 1 for both. So one doesn't seem to have "fixed" the other does it? I know lets build more.

I know I can't talk living in Essex (and coming from South Shields) but if I'm running late of a morning theres a train that goes through Chelmsford at about 8:15 that goes to Lowestoft and it takes the robot announcer about 2 minutes to list all of the God forsaken places it stops at on the way. Every time I hear it I think what a backwater these pointless villages must be, no doubt full of evolutionary throwbacks I have to say though I do remember visiting Lowestoft as a kid and remember it being a "typical" seaside town - much like Scarborough, Whitby or any number of place around the coast (even Shields). I think the only real problem it has is that its bloody miles from anywhere.

I started watching that with the same bitter thoughts as you two but just couldn't bring myself to want a team in red & white stripes to beat one in black & white - sad I know but still

I still wouldn't be surprised if he ended up at Sunderland. I'm not that bothered we didn't get him (or whether he was courted) - as FS has implicitly decided that our ambition is always going to be to get 5th I think we're just as well off with Roeder. O'Neill wouldn't have bettered 5th imo and Roeder has shown he likes a bit of style. I would also have been unhappy with his alleged wish to do a 3 day week.

Sambas were okay but I preferred Trimm Trabbs and of course Diadora Gold Borgs.

I am sure it was only 4. 142063[/snapback] Yeah I've checked and you're right - I honestly thought his sudden energence as a goalscorer was highlighted when Chelsea signed him. Oh Well - stll think he's an excellent player.

A few points: Almost all of the players improved after Roeder took over - Parker didn't get much of a chance to (and was ill when he did play) but the same improvement as some of the other players from his baseline last season would have been a tad impressive. We did "okay" in the run in but got away with Faye and Clark too much and struggled with Charlie in the middle - I can't see how people can say we wouldn't have been better witha fit Parker. The season before he signed for Chelsea I think he scored 10 goals for Charlton.

Head bags used to be as much football hooligan uniform as Stone Island is now - I remember watching the kids who were deported from Germany in Euro88 using them to hide their faces from the cameras to a man.

Nowt worse than a band stagnating. Rehashing the stuff that was popular, scared to just do what they want because they have to cater to their demographic. I look at Oasis and see what Radiohead could have become. I thank christ they didn't. 138832[/snapback] I'd like to have seen Oasis release their 3rd album onwards under an alias and see what critics and fans thought of them without the name Oasis and the first 2 albums to affect opinions. Anyone seriously think the music world would have batted an eyelid at those albums without the Oasis hype and reputation colouring peoples views. 138836[/snapback] Good point but I've always thought all Oasis albums are the same (not like that) in that they all have 4 perhaps 5 cracking songs and a lot of "Meh" type ones - and I include the "classic" first two in that. I think a band can evolve without doing a "Radiohead" though - U2 for example have tried different things (some of which I quite frankly hate) while maintaining a core style and overall quality (imo). I just felt that Radiohead were a bit too "bloody-minded" in the way they changed. I know they will claim they made music they wanted to but I also remember them saying that they specifically didn't want to be a "U2, biggest band on the planet" type deal which they were heading for. Another remark I recall referred to "3 frustrated guitarists" in the band which again suggests they went out of their way to go against the grain. I'm sure there are people who love the Kid A and the rest stuff but I feel a lot of their fans feel to obliged to listen to it in the name of "eclectic" music taste. I haven't got tickets for V this year as the lineup is poor imo but I may change my mind and see Radiohead as I think live they are more like their old selves. Talking of wrist slitting one of my main memories of Radiohead was after the Chelsea semi in 2000 when I took the huff and went home straight from Wembley and was in the house for 6:45. I switched on MTV2 and Fake Plastic Trees was on - I remember it causing a depressed tear or two and thinking it summed up following NUFC - at once soul-lifting glory and ultimate sadness.

That's what annoys me when people are very quick to critcise the police. Whilst I am fully aware that no one person or system is infallible, I don't think a lot of people realise what some police officers experience in their day-to-day work. My uncle is pretty high up in Northumbria Police and some of the things he's had to deal with have been horrific. 138717[/snapback] I think like most things it depends on circumstances - I have 3 or 4 good mates who are coppers and I wouldn't do their job but know they work hard and handle shite (though we disagree on what I see as a token war against drug dealers) but that doesn't mean that we have to take some of the pricks who police football (not as bad as it used to be) who see themselves as lords and masters of "scum" fans and not the public servants they are.

I'm a bit of a cliche Radiohead wise - I love Pablo Honey and The Bends but think they started to disappear up their own arses with Ok Computer and made it all the way with Kid A and the rest. Being a "No guitar, no good" type music fan I think a band who are so fantastic to "betray" their sound and become knob twiddlers is probably worse than someone who just never had it like a pop group or something. I think interviews around the time of Kid A are revealing when they said they almost decided to release that under a pseudonym to see how it did - I think it would have bombed without the "emperors new clothes" effect of the fans who insist its genius.