NJS

I never had you down as delusional! I'll try to kid myself as well. The decisions looks rather hasty considering the circumstances - Allardyce looking still very much in the job at 5pm. So they probably were working/sounding out things behind the scenes and got clear signals to be able to move for a top man they really want thus acting and now moving to tie things up through "the right channels". But then - this is Newcastle. We don't do "planning", we only do laughing stocks... I'd add the stuff about Ashley wanting the title within 5 years into the delusional mix - sure that rules out nearly all the desperate fuckers?

I'd echo that statement. Have you forgotten starting an Official Allardyce Out thread about a month ago? Allardyce gets the shit for not playing the team you wanted him too, and now the Chairman gets it for not sacking him the way you wanted him to. My bile was aimed at getting Ashley to act in both ways - as I said a better replacement is the ideal.

I work with a Blackburn fan who reckons its common knowledge he's being groomed for Man U.

Haven't read the thread as I only found out 5 mins ago and just want to type randomly. This seems strange after what looked like genuine backing - my hope is that that means they have someone worth doing something as daft as this for. Yes, despite my vehement anti-Allardyce stance I think sacking now with nobody lined up is worse than waiting out the season. I heard the "british" comment on SSN and cringed as I thought of McLaren, Moyes, Redknapp, Strachan and Bruce - hope this is a smokescreen.

My mistake was probably a timing issue then - from 1980 onwards I was going to away games every other saturday and had discovered pre-match drinking for home games

Was that called O.T.T? Yeah they had a lass who was meant to get them out but they kept it going for weeks because she didn't have an equity card. Kept the world enthralled - how times have changed.

Oh Yes!!

I agree but didn't mind the split - I never had any interest in reading about how shit their actual team is.

I'm pretty sure that it didn't appear until very late in its run if it did - I remember going to an away game in Bristol which was overnight job in about 1980 where people saw it for the first time on local tv there. I could be wrong of course - were you not thinking of the adult version on saturday night with Tarrant?

Shit TV for 13 year old american virgins? Fish im disappointed Remarks like that persuade me that Wacky's opinion of you is correct. Only Babylon 5 has ever bettered Angel in TV terms. Pisstake shirley? Not in my opinion - name something better.

What I find funny is how the blatant pisstaking they did over Titus and Dyer when the hotel roast/rape thing was on has now come back to haunt them.

Shit TV for 13 year old american virgins? Fish im disappointed Remarks like that persuade me that Wacky's opinion of you is correct. Only Babylon 5 has ever bettered Angel in TV terms.

Theres been some rumours regarding a couple of their players flying around for a week or more. Despite having clear warnings idiots kept referring to them and apparently one of the players involved found out and unleashed their legal people on to them.

While I agree "the press" have a lot to answer for, I'm not going to stop pointing out that the team's performances are generally unacceptable. However on the subject one thought I did have today for all the "give him more time" advocates in the media - do they think McLaren should have sacked?

What I find frustrating is not that we were shit but that there are intermittent signs that we have good players who can play well. There were moves that almost came off which I suppose shows how desperate I am to see anything good but I don't think a complete lack of good players is the problem. What we need is for someone (guess who) to realise and point out the obvious: Never play Smith in midfield Fine Nicky Butt every time he tries a pass over 10 yards Tell Charlie to look up when he's on a run. Play the ball to Viduka's feet Get Duff on the ball a lot more - especially in and around Owen and Viduka.

I reckon me fatha's a canny bloke like. Jealous of people who can afford one perhaps? Good generalisations don't have to be 100%. Once weighed up BMs - didn't think they were good value for money because of the cost of the extras.

Checking them out now on MySpace - Mazzytastic - cheers

Agree with Peacock. What Sir Les lacks in eloquence he makes up for in support for us. Can I also take the opportunity to say how much I hate Brian Marwood and if we'd scored every time I've shouted "Mackem cunt" at the TV/PC when he's been on we'd be top by miles.

BMW drivers are wankers 4x4 drivers are wankers (Jimbo? ) Scousers are drug dealers/touts/burglars/pickpockets/not to be trusted in any way, shape or form. I also think Imprezas are decent cars - no I haven't got one.

Judging by his recent performances on the pitch, his best contribution on Sunday would probably be as one of our daft lads.

This African Nations thing is a pro and a con - I think losing Beye and Faye is a bummer but I hope a break does Geremi and Martins good.

I think even the most rabid outers (me included) recognise that last night wasn't a "Wigan level" disgrace. The last two games have seen improved performances both in terms of attitude and general play. I think if last nights game had taken place in September people would have had more of a "oh well" kind of attitude, focusing on the positives. The thing is its all part of a whole of a season that apart from maybe 4 or 5 games has been consistently poor. I guess the options now as I see the are: 1) Trust Allardyce to build on the better performances lately and with the addition of a couple of players have an acceptable/reasonable 2nd half of the season witrh the hope of something better next year. 2) Accept that we will be generally shite for the rest of the season to the same degree as so far, just scrape enough points to prevent looking below us and look forward to next season. 3) Recognise that he's the wrong man and get rid now. I'll be honest and say I'm actually torn between 2 and 3. I'll admit 3 is my instinctive choice but I do accept all the arguments about time and revolving doors etc. The problem is of course getting someone in which is why option 2 also appeals in that as long as the season is recognised as unacceptable we can try and get someone better in the summer. My worry is that a reasonable finish will fit into the so call plan of progress and we'll see the same as this season next year (see my previous arguments that Bolton were up and down never gradual). I'm still however plagued by the points and fixtures issue. I honestly only see Bolton and Boro as possible/probable wins until virtually the end of match and thats worrying. I don't want to have to say "but the Mackems/Fulham/Brum are worse than us" the simple fact is that 9 points over 17 games inst that much of a gap when you aren't winning. The harsh reality is that the improved performances of the last two games will probably be nullified by the fixture list which means more desperation.

I'd agree but both goals were down to basic football moves - something we are incapable of doing. The Duff decision didn't help but it shouldn't be seen as an excuse either. That was another odd one. I said to my mate when I seen the sub being made, that I didnt mind which went off, Milner or Zog as both were poor, in particular Milner who had a mare in the second half. Could have put zog or Duff on the right easy enough for Enrique to sit at LB. Then he took Duff off. We just laughed. I meant the offside/possible red card Though I also think he should have took Butt off. I also thought Milner had an off night.

I'd agree but both goals were down to basic football moves - something we are incapable of doing. The Duff decision didn't help but it shouldn't be seen as an excuse either.