NJS

Dangerous in what way? As someone who walked through London in July 2005 and who works in the prime target for these "dangerous" people I have to say I don't give the possibilty of any danger a second thought. If you spend your life worrying about shit like that you may as well give up. I'd also ask - if all Muslims were kicked out of the UK tomorrow how would anyone be "safer"?

The right to peaceful protest is enshrined in any decent democracy - do you agree? Is it just that it was soldiers they protested against or the war? - if its the latter then there was a protest involing more than 1m from all "races" at the height of the war - would you bang those up as well?

I still think "corrupting" young Muslims with Western values is our best bet - the only pisser is any clampdowns and attititudes like LM's just encourages them to look inwards and turn more fundamental. aye, sure. If not for people like me they would be happy to integrate into the British community, speak the language and tolerate the customs and not abuse British soldiers on British soil when they return home from a tour of duty. What a load of bollocks. I'm sitting 2 yards from a Turkish lad who drinks (and is now a UK citizen btw) - I've met other Muslims who are bigger fanny rats than I would ever dream of being - the point is about generalisations. You think a few idiots who protest taint an entire community - that's why you're an idiot imo.

The thing is Stevie I've made it clear on here that I abhor organised religion and a lot of the so called morals that go with it - that doesn't mean I judge all Muslims/Christians/Jews as cunts who "don't belong here" which is what LM suggests.

I still think "corrupting" young Muslims with Western values is our best bet - the only pisser is any clampdowns and attititudes like LM's just encourages them to look inwards and turn more fundamental.

Quite old, not bad, but nowhere near the sickest ever. "I used to be a necrophiliiac......" is sicker for starters.

Yep - education is "brainwashing" and "life experience" triumphs over any evidence like all of the examples of civilian casualties or the Snopes thing which proves all the shit about birthrates is utter bollocks but what does that matter. By the way LM enjoyed any good curries lately?

I see what you're saying but maybe Colchester don't play the type of football to suit him? Of course I'm not saying we do, but I think Hughton is flexible enough to use footballers correctly.

Something else I'm behind on - watched the first 2 days but the rest are stacked up.

Obviously a give and take between wanting to do a short term deal and NR knowing that it's a good deal if we do go up so trying to get longer/cheaper.

Better footballer than any of the current squad - would be worth it just to get him to try and teach our "wingers" to cross.

I have some pride in British history and also believe in a community of people sharing common needs and values - that sense of community easily travels over borders though - that's why I'm not blind to some of the shit that Britain has done to other people. I'd also argue that before you say "Muslims don't share British values" that they top polls for lack of crime and respect for law and order and overall are more respectful of authority thatn a shit load of british people - including me. To me, misguided and misled people who are so desperate that they commit acts of terror, though thoroughly and completely wrong, aren't as bad as training people to be experts in covert murder, sending them on missions with no regard to civilians despite what you say, and then building said killers up as heroes who should be admired and looked up to and whose crimes are excused under the guise of patriotism. I see murderers - I don't care whether they are called "Patel" or are wearing a badge with "Who dares Wins" on it.

Just about sums you up - knowledge of any kind, especially of the wider world is mistrusted and abused.

Contradiction in terms in bold.

There was always some stuff about him having some kind of condition which meant he was destined to suffer hamstring problems. I've always been in two minds about him - could/should/sometimes was a very good player but missed too much. I don't think he was helped by the off the field shit of course.

You do get the impression sometimes that the last 2 or 3 centuries have been a worlds biggest cunts competition between the "top 10" or so countries - sadly I still think the UK is the winner overall.

I'd also add that it was either him of Falwell who did say that Katrina was definitely God's wrath for New Orleans' immorality.

Yes but the fuckers love tragedy because it gives them a chance to "do good" and feel good about themselves as well as run a recruitment drive.

There's a link from pharyngula where Pat Robertson say's it's all their own fault for making a pact with the devil to free themselves from the French - that's also why they're poor as fuck.

The CIA staged a coup against the elected government in 2004 from what I've read - so it's rich to whinge now.

Aye even the usual ones people (including me) name like Lisa Tarbuck and Lorraine Kelly aren't exactly foul.

With an I'm no paedo disclaimer I'd say Ricci looked better when she was younger - though maybe in Casper rather than in the Addams family.

Yeah despite all the shit I think its sad as well - I've always enjoyed FA cup away matches as people just seem to have a buzz about them - even when we were shit and had no chance.

Since I moved south I've only bothered with 3 midweek games - the first Barcelona CL game, the Gullit derby and Beardsley's testimonial. A pointless replay against Plymouth in the current conditions under Ashley didn't even get on the radar.

That's sometimes the problem with instilling "democracy" in places where it doesn't really fit - people just revert to old tribal or religious allegiances (see Iraq or half of Africa ) or they vote for candidates foisted on them because they have no real choice. I remember Ortega losing elections in Nicaragua because the CIA put up a candidate and basically told the people that if he wasn't elected the US would bully the world into destroying their economy. The Taliban angle is also an indication of how practicality triumphs over principle in foreign policy - odious regimes are left untouched as long as there's business to be done while relatively harmless countries like Cuba are made into pariahs. I think everyone generally accepts that but imo it is made worse when people like Bush or Blair add some kind of moral crusade element to their actions. Basically if Saddam had played ball, nobody would have cared how many Kurds he gassed.