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District 9 Quite enjoyable - it's also nice to know there is actually someone in the world albeit fictional who swears more than me.

I think people like that say "as a christian" when they actually mean "as an honest, trusting, faithful human being". I obviously think you can be the latter without the former.

I'm usually the first to criticise religion but I think that's the wrong call here - a desire through love to be faithful has fuck all to do with Christianity. The problem is ignorance/education/culture - there's no reason why his wife's lack of desire couldn't be treated and failing all else why he couldn't be treated properly. Of course if he refused to wank because of religion that's his fault and the stupid twats in Rome.

Yeah - made me think of Dynamo Dresden for some reason

I still think he has a long way to go to match Kissinger (and probably a few others) in being the most inappropriate recipient.

It sounded like the old story - his tackling etc was good and contributed to the result but his distribution was shite. I've said before that I have no problem with him playing as long as he hands the ball off to someone else instead of trying to play - I think him being "forced" into that last year because the rest were shit was a huge factor. Smith does this quite well and the centre halves + jonas haven't been bad this year at moving the ball around when they've tried - it sounded last night as if they'd either been told to be more direct (probably because of some strange idea that Shola could cope) or it was just a bad day.

Haven't seen the action but this league is defined completely by this game - Shola looks like an asset.

Aye. Get them used to it early with kormas and the like, it's what my parents did. (Then "accidentally" order them a Curry Hell one day. ) My Mam couldn't stand the smell of curry so I never had one as a kid - I thought curry started and ended with the shite you get on chips in chip shops. Started going for curries with mates and the first few times I got a steak but then started dipping into theirs to see what I liked. Now I generally have a Jalfrezi or a Korai. I must admit to feeling jealous after hearing mates who lived near Ocean Rd in Shields as kids saying how they used to take pans down to the shops and get them filled for their teas for next to nowt.

The bonus tax starts at 25k - only senior traders and management get more than that at our place.

Am I right in my scanning of this thread that Parky believes there is a genetic compnonent involved in these cultural differences though? Classic Parky bollocks if this is what he is inferring. Plus race memory (Sorry Parky)

Recent cultural differences are fine and I do recognise them - "race memory" and Genetic tribalism is bullshit. Tell that to the Bosnians or the Albanians or the Kashmiri or the Irish or the....etc.. There is a thread of unrealism in this we're all Europeans bullshit we're not and never will be. People's stupidity does not make "facts". It should be beaten into every kid in the world that "race" is a nonsensical concept.

Where do people get this crazy notion that footballers from the 60's, 70's and 80's were not as fit as modern footballers, just because they didn't have the advantage of an electronic machine telling them what their ideal body fat mass was, doesn't mean they didn't pump as much iron as modern footballers. The Colin Bell I saw playing was a fit, lean, fast, and athletic footballer and any of the top clubs would break the bank to sign him if he was playing today. There are aspects of Sport Science which have brought improvements - nutritionally the old "Steak and chips" has been replaced by a Pasta/high carb approach which does make a differnece to stamina etc. Of course people like Bell as you've descibed him may have been "special" but as a whole/on average I'd bet that the modern footballer is fitter.

Recent cultural differences are fine and I do recognise them - "race memory" and Genetic tribalism is bullshit.

I think theres a difference between transplanting Colin Bell or whoever as he was into the modern game and chucking him in and having someone of the same talent with the modern fitness/lifestyle improvements - in that context I'd expect the talent to still shine.

Associateing Germanic tribes with modern day Germans is a bit daft - those tribes would have included Angles and Saxons who are just as linked to modern Britains. Recent research has shown that the Saxon element who came over are very much exaggerated. Our genetic make up of many of us is apparently 75-95% Basque. Yes but the ancestors of the Saxons etc came from the same Ice Age refuges as the Celts who originally populated Britain (in Basque areas as you say) Trying to genetically separate European "tribes" is generally pointless - post Ice Age we're all of a muchness.

Associateing Germanic tribes with modern day Germans is a bit daft - those tribes would have included Angles and Saxons who are just as linked to modern Britains.

I work with a few Germans and surprise, surprise they're just like evryone else - a range from sound to cuntish. I can see some stereotypical traits in some of them but that's just accentuated by knowing they are German.

I think he's a decent footballer at playing short/key passes which is why I could see it working in the right setup - his problem as a winger imo was not enough quality delivery.

Just shows they were just like the Pilgrim Fathers - religious nutjobs.

Or swap him for Shola if they've forgotten how shit he was when he was there.

Other countries including Germany still have those industries. There may be an argument that some of the things she did were right but the lack of thought for the immediate consequences of those changes and the delight she took was devestating.

Strictly speaking its Boers rather than Dutch. Basically all of the commonwealth countries wanted to impose sanctions on SA - as a sop Thatcher agreed to stop the trade in Krugerrands in London whcih was a token gesture - something like £25m pa. So at the press conference with her typically arrogant tone she made it clear it was pointless by saying "Do you know how much the trade is worth? - this much" and showed her thumb and forefinger together along with a sneer that you could say was like Jenna Jameson demonstrating what she thought of a Mackem's cock.

The press conference where she mocked the value of a sanction they had passed on Krugerrands by saying it was worth "this much" with a sneer is a classic moment in the bitch's career. I fully admit that a lot of my knowledge of Africa from a history pov comes from reading Wilbur Smith books - the thing that stands out is the descrpition of how tribal many Africans are - I know it sounds obvious but for example everybody though Nkomo would take power in the new Zimbabwe because he was more moderate but in effect the vast majority voted along strictly tribal lines which is why Mugabe won. I think this sort of explains why Apartheid in a way seemed to "make sense". One of the reasons I think multicultarism is a good idea especially by including the UK in a homgenous Europe is to get away from tribal shit like this (although of course the former Yugoslavia proved its not just Africa). I also realise that the very tribal nature of football support and regional pride makes me sound hyopcirical but I think its about levels.

I started on a list earlier which included Kluivert and Rep. I'd also mention Trevor Steven for Everton in 84/85 - they beat us 4-0 and he had a blinder.