NJS

I'm pretty blatant in my abhorrence of all religions but that's a tad simplistic imo - religions are mysoginist/patriarchal because that's the way most societies have been so religions as the man made control mechanisms that they are refelect that. Unfortunately a feedback loop in poorer countries amplifies the culture/religion mix until things like FGM can't be identified as belonging to one or the other - in reality they belong to both.

Unfortunately for the Mackems, Bolton, us and anybody else, Liverpool putting someone semi-competent in charge means the top 6 is pretty much set for the rest of the season imo.

I'd have Felliani, Cahill and Distain like Stevie - for the squad if nothing else.

The praise is fair enough but it should take into account how shit they were - which of course is why we "should" be beating them and their ilk given the decent players we have. Last night was very similar to the Blackburn and Mackem games and to a lesser extent the Fulham game - looking comfortable defensively and dominating the midfield. The difference last night was better final balls and two good finishes - obviously those players can do it but need to either do it more consistently (this season at least) or be replaced.

Seen the goal - happier now.

FFS - answering emails and switched on late and missed it.

Anecdotal of course but the last time I interacted with the NHS was when my Mam died (4 days waiting by her bed) and they were absolutely fantastic (though one of the nurses was a tad arrogant so I told her so).

Same could be said for the Mackem game and a few other games where chance creation/taking has let us down. Not just the shit strikers's fault - need better service as well.

I thought that at first but now see it as his "natural" accent and it seems strange seeing him in Blackadder etc

Amanda Tapping's "English" in Sanctuary.

Anyone see the cunt on Goals on Sunday? Had to switch it off when he started talking about us - "I went there to re-establish them as a footballing club" = football murdering shitbag that he is.

Yes - a bit different to walking round in something that's just wrong

Call me childish but I never have and never could wear anything red and white.

Too many shit players mixed in with the good. Sad fact is the 35m (as if it will be anyway) needs to be spent on 4 strikers and 2 wingers and that's not counting replacing Tiote and Enrique. If we do stop up (5 points gap but I think we will) next year is going to be tougher.

Not better than Clichy, Cole or Evra.

I'd agree with the bit to the north and east of the green belt next to the river being Orient but because of that gap I'd guess anything south of Stratford and the built up area to the east of that through and to the north of Plaistow is more likely West Ham. I'd also say its a bit of a push to compare Orient and West ham fanbase wise because as I said I'd guess Orient are very local - if people are going to be brought up to support Orient now, I can't really see that changing just because of the stadium.

I'd have thought Orient's fans are pretty local to Leyton and tbh Stratford itself is close-ish to West Ham. I've always thought Hackney tended to be more Spurs territory but that could be a generalisation based on the prevalent skin colour as well.

I don't understand the economics - even if they sell Upton Park (shit area) I can't see them getting that much for it as they need a 40m loan from the council. They've also said they'll charge next to nowt in an attempt to fill it but 60k x £10 say is less than 35k x £30. I can't see that many boxes being filled either. They're also gambling that 60k (if they ever get that) will generate a better atmosphere than Upton park - a huge leap of faith given the track.

I've heard/read people raving about that for years and finally watched the first episode last night and didn't even smile once. (Though I still wouldn't mind trying to "cure" Portia De Rossi)

I think I've said before I'd have Cole in as he encapsulated the sheer unashamed joy of the first year up - both as a player/bloke and as the focus of the team. I prefer Ferdinand to Shearer as I think even though he wasn't here as long, he put more in overall - I realise that's heresy but I remember pre-England iffy performances effort wise from Shearer and some of the games in the last 2 years when he'd plainly gone - he probably should have given up earlier.

Bearsley for Tiote, Cole for Shearer.

I fully accept that football has fundamentally changed and irreversibly so - I agree with SBTP that families per se is good for the game but over-focusing on them is a mistake in my view. This isn't all just about atmosphere - its about footballs place in the community as an outlet for tribalism and yes some aggression. I think claiming we're beyond the need for that outlet is naive. The whole section must only be about 10% of the overall capacity. Not sure though that it makes great sense to put the 18-21 year olds next to the away fans The whole of Milburn/Leazes L7 is 10%? Surely that's the expansion from 36 to 52 which is 16k - even allowing for 3k for away fans that 25% Another point is that as someone who much prefers to watch football side on and away from the pitch I'm now limited to a choice of one stand at "normal" prices and corporate shite.

I fully accept that football has fundamentally changed and irreversibly so - I agree with SBTP that families per se is good for the game but over-focusing on them is a mistake in my view. This isn't all just about atmosphere - its about footballs place in the community as an outlet for tribalism and yes some aggression. I think claiming we're beyond the need for that outlet is naive. ? A fundamental change in the nature of football support has already occurred, not sure where a claim for being beyond a need for an outlet for tribalism or aggression was made. Assumed it was a general point re: society's views on such matters rather than disagreeing with a point you were making. Yes - the idea that the nastiness of the past is gone and that's a completely positive notion is what I'm arguing against. The marketing men try and sell football as a pleasant experience for families (which it is) but at the same time promote what they call good atmospheres without acknowledging that unless the circumstances are exceptional like last week, there is in my view a correlation between better atmospheres with tribalism and alcohol.

I fully accept that football has fundamentally changed and irreversibly so - I agree with SBTP that families per se is good for the game but over-focusing on them is a mistake in my view. This isn't all just about atmosphere - its about footballs place in the community as an outlet for tribalism and yes some aggression. I think claiming we're beyond the need for that outlet is naive.

46 - like your 30s but want to scream and swear as appropriate (ie every other word) and go fucking mental if we score.