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"One as young as 17" - surely that deserves a so fuck? (I think unwanted hands up skirts are wrong anyway but still.....)

Considering how easy it was to cover up what looks like deaths at that childrens home on Jersey, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it had gone on. I think once you enter the world of children in care, especially in the decades we're taling about here, it was a separate world.

Never a truer word was printed when under a comment which says its nice to know that Muslims can be good people, it states that comments do not represent the views of MailOnline.

The website is down now - probably to save it from vultures (like me). To be fair to CT he did expressa modicum of sympathy for the workers in his opening post. I bought my fuck off telly from the local one two years ago - found one on the web I wanted and they had a pricematching offer on with convenient delivery - I thought they were canny on things like that and washing machines. Never bought the warranties of course.

Even the first three were blighted in the end by the fucking ewoks - as well as the happy ending. Them all dying would have been too much but no major characters apart from Vader?

Bloke next to me on the train had a Sun and I had a really good internal laugh at their pic of Yoda with Mickey Mouse ears.

HR departments. I really can't think of a more pointless facet of of the working environment than these fuckers. Everyone in my department was allocated at least one "training" course a few weeks ago and I was allocated "business presentation skills" which is this Friday. Presentations are not part of my job, will never be and I have no interest in them whatsoever. The only reason I didn't kick up a fuss is that the other lads were given alternatives which I'd have to do which are even more appalling like "personal effectiveness". I'm sure theres a a network of people who work in HR and those who used to who now run training companies which provide psedo-scientifically based bullshit like this to keep each other in work. Cunts the lot of them. Anyway I filled in a pre-course questionnaire last week in which I made my feelings known - we have to prepare a short presentation "you'd normally give in the course of your work" so I mentioned that they'd have to give me a clue as it just doesn't happen. I'm now thinking of doing one of the effectiveness of HR and shit training courses just for a laugh. Don't get me wrong I love proper technical training and have been on a few excellent courses in the past but that was orgainised by me or managers who have a bastard clue.

I like the fact that Torres' was probably harsh - but makes up for him being a cheat in general.

Read a review which suggests its hard to switch off the "touch" interface which might make me a bit wary. I've always wanted an install option that goes "do you have a clue?" which switches off all the anti-moron stuff like "are you sure" etc so it sounds like they haven't listened to that if it isn't very flexible.

I would be happy to add Wolfy to the scaffold built for Ashley just for the dummy remark like.

I've mentioned a couple of times that my contempt for Villa singing "Where were you......" comes from a game in 85 and its featured on .com today - division one crowd of 12633.

All we need then is an Olympics every quarter and everything is fine.

Also Radio one road shows would have been a lot easier for lasses of that age to attend then the usual club life of a footballer - I think they also DJed at more sort of family/kids type discos.

John Peel admited to some dodgy liaisons - I think he marrried a 15 year old in the states. I know sometimes its not right to define "degrees" of evil in cases like this but celebs acting like celebs like you say (and the likes of Led Zep etc) having the odd groupie while definitely wrong is different to a bloke in his 40s/50s and more showing lasses from approved schools (and therefore probablly "broken") around the BBC and expecting them to be okay with "paying" for their nice day out as has been described which is about the worst it can get in my view. From the cover up pov it probably ranges from those who heard rumours to those who actually saw him leading them into his dressing room - the latter fuckers should be shot with shit.

Maybe the illegality is the thrill rather than the age - as young looking sixteen year olds would have satisfied simple lust (though still creepy as fuck of course).

It would please me if Rantzen was implicated - she's said several times that all men are "suspects" when it comes to abuse and should never be fully trusted with kids - forgetting that a lot of of the time there will be women involved turning a blind eye.

It makes you wonder whether he realised how bad it was going to be when be decided to "stop fighting" in an almost lazy manner. That made it sound like it was still going to be unsubstantiated hearsay and not the "banged to rights" its turned out as.

That really summned him up for me - I thought the rule was you only brought back play if the advantage petered out not ended up with a chance.Looking at his history and the fact that he gave us slightly dubious calls at SJP makes me think its not that he hates us, he's just a very strong Homer.

His misuse of the advantage rule was terrible Stevie. As I said above, Atkinson was the ref at man city when Ben Arfa was done.

I would add that I remember McCann breaking Pistone's leg in either the first or second game there and he got a yellow at most.

Agree largely with Stevie - I think getting Tiote to channel his aggression should be Pardew's Ben Arfa type project for this season.

Funny thing is Cattermole not playing worked for them in that there wasn't anyone else we could try and wind up to even the numbers. I still think if it had been a home player it would have been a yellow - but we'd have moaned like fuck it should have been red. Will be interesting to see how similar tackles are punished from now on though.

Two things made me happy today - how good we looked with Colo back and how shit they were - I really hope that's their "normal" standard of play this season as I really think they'll struggle if it is.

Add to that not giving a foul for De Jong on Ben Arfa and not giving a blatant pen to us in the same game - he's card happy but a blatant homer with it.

Fabregas iirc. I had a bad feeling when Atkinson was named - still stupid for giving him the excuse to be his usual self though.