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I know he was a bit of a fanny but I still think he should have lamped Ashley Cole when he wouldn't go to him when beckoned that time - or at least offered the cunt out in the car park.

I've got a Oneplus 7 Pro and it's excellent. Not as much vfm as when it was the 2/3 or even 5 but still a lot more value than Samsung/pixel/iPhone imo.

Thing is we know there are lots (?) of moderates who want Corbyn out but I thought like 2 years ago they were biding their time awaiting a bad defeat to force him out. Quitting now seems a bit strange - unless they're worried they may do "well" again and want to sabotage that. I don't think Watson was thought of as new leader material by the way - even by those moderates.

I'm sure someone might have a link or can be arsed to search but I think I read an article not long after Grenfell which suggested that Rees-Mogg was on the parliamentary committee which sets building standards for public housing and had been "pressured" by lobbyists to accept the shite cladding options as okay to use. Haven't seen any mention of it recently so I may be wrong or accepted fake news as fact.

Grounded?

We'll see - I don't underestimate the chances of power conquering brexit.

But my view is their campaign is more aimed at Labour remainers not tory ones.

It's not all about brexit - it's clear she has no interest in any kind of moderately left wing policies. I also wouldn't be surprised if Johnson offers then a second ref confident his deal will win.

Fair enough but there are a surprising number of clear labour/tory marginals where that approach will guarantee a tory win - a result which may have been likely anyway but still.

I'd say Johnson is probably more of a remainer than Corbyn but it's the party's policy that matters.

I think Swinson's comments on other matters suggest she's more tory leaning than the general perfectly decent Liberal democrat. That's why I don't trust her.

No, they're going for Labour - Swinson described the Johnson vs Corbyn debate as two leavers on a stage - the way they are still saying Labour will leave is a clear appeal for the remain vote which of it works will simply hand the tories power by costing Labour seats like Canterbury and Kensington. Theyve now said they wouldn't have/won't work with Gordon Brown, Ed Milliband and Jeremy Corbyn - given that range who the hell do you think they would work with?

Or Refs as they are known.

It's a reasonable conclusion given some of the advice. Reccomending the LDs in places they got 4% in 2017 based on the eu election results seems a stretch. They were boosting the numbers where they said they were reccomending labour by naming them in NI before someone called them on it and they changed them.

You need to check out what the libs are doing with that best for Britain site. They are 100% going for a tory coalition.

I agree he wasnt/isn't as big a cunt but stand by him knowing fuck all about football and being in it for the wrong reasons.

Hall was just another Ashley who knew fuck all about football. Like his sporting club stuff - why the fuck would I go and watch ice hockey or basketball just because they were affiliates?

I think there was an even worse option than that - it was mooted to share their first draft of a new stadium at Sunderland "Airport" in Washington.

Has PL owned up to his idiocy yet?

Gary Shaw is the bloke next to Brian Little as well

Yeah, that conk on Cowans is more like it.

Thought Cowans had an even bigger conk that that in his playing days....

One goal between them.

ErnieTaylor? Might not be old enough but I know he played for the Mancs post-Munich.

West Ham were fucking shit - possibly the worst we've played so far.