Park Life

Goody was a media invention, on the other hand Jacko invented the pop video, some legendary work. First black artist to get rotation on daytime MTV iirc. He invented the excessively expensive pop video to prop up a mediocre song maybe. What does 'rotation on daytime MTV ' mean, is that a significant achievement? And what work do you regard as legendary? Well, its been said this morning that him and Quincy Jones pulled together R & B,pop and Rock music in a way that had never been done before. I think that is pretty unarguable. Whether you liked it of course is entirely subjective. In a way he did a sort of reverse Elvis...he was (then) a black man using elements of popular music which were at the time seen as traditionally the preserve of white audiences and mixed them with what he was brought up with (R & B/Motown) to produce in the eighties two of the (and in fact the) biggest selling albums of all time. That was a huge acheivement for someone who had been up till then mostly performing in the hugely ghettoised black music industry.Motown, the home of the Jackson 5, was very successful,but mainly sold to only black kids. MTV was starting up at the time and he and his record company could see the value of huge flashy videos to promote his music to a huge new audience in what could be termed "middle America". In this, him and Quincy Jones changed the face of popular music. Maybe that's right but I don't remember music being ghetto-ised between white and black audiences when Thriller came out. Not in the UK anyway. MTV was primarily an American entity at that point. And it was due to Jacko and Quincy and the use of guitars in disco that they couldn't keep it off American MTV.

His music saved me. Can't remember you ever mentioning being into him before like. Nobody on here knows the first thing about me.

A rendition of "I'm forever blowing bubbles" on the ipod too? BTW - what the fuck is Parky's problem? Was Jacko blowing him too? Is there a problem?

His music saved me.

Goody was a media invention, on the other hand Jacko invented the pop video, some legendary work. First black artist to get rotation on daytime MTV iirc. He invented the excessively expensive pop video to prop up a mediocre song maybe. What does 'rotation on daytime MTV ' mean, is that a significant achievement? And what work do you regard as legendary? Well, its been said this morning that him and Quincy Jones pulled together R & B,pop and Rock music in a way that had never been done before. I think that is pretty unarguable. Whether you liked it of course is entirely subjective. In a way he did a sort of reverse Elvis...he was (then) a black man using elements of popular music which were at the time seen as traditionally the preserve of white audiences and mixed them with what he was brought up with (R & B/Motown) to produce in the eighties two of the (and in fact the) biggest selling albums of all time. That was a huge acheivement for someone who had been up till then mostly performing in the hugely ghettoised black music industry.Motown, the home of the Jackson 5, was very successful,but mainly sold to only black kids. MTV was starting up at the time and he and his record company could see the value of huge flashy videos to promote his music to a huge new audience in what could be termed "middle America". In this, him and Quincy Jones changed the face of popular music. Excellent post. It was also a time when MTV was quite keen to keep black and 'white' music apart in the schedules. "Bad" stopped all that shit in its tracks.

John Lennon released some absolute gash like He did indeed. I think the difference between the two is outlined by Renton though in that you got the feeling there was no way Jackson would ever do anything decent ever again (plenty evidence to back that up as well). He died 10 years earlier than Wacko though...most people would agree that your forties on isn't really going to be peak of anyone's pop powers. Exactly.

John Lennon released some absolute gash like I know. ....and was a right twat to his wife(s) and kids

Not sure why people have a preoccupation with the musical cannon. Any artist can only really deliver 2/3 great albums and he did that with ease. Because he brought out loads of shit albums and he's a pop star. Read the second part again. Someone's huffed. I read it the first time. Judging a pop star on their output seems fair enough to me. He was a genius not a popstar, that's where you and me differ on the appraisal.

White boys nalf talk some shit.

Goody was a media invention, on the other hand Jacko invented the pop video, some legendary work. First black artist to get rotation on daytime MTV iirc. He invented the excessively expensive pop video to prop up a mediocre song maybe. What does 'rotation on daytime MTV ' mean, is that a significant achievement? And what work do you regard as legendary? Fcuk off you clueless gimp. Charming as always Parky. I was just putting across my opinion and trying to clarify what you meant, not for the first time you answer with personal abuse. Get out.

Not sure why people have a preoccupation with the musical cannon. Any artist can only really deliver 2/3 great albums and he did that with ease. Because he brought out loads of shit albums and he's a pop star. Read the second part again.

Goody was a media invention, on the other hand Jacko invented the pop video, some legendary work. First black artist to get rotation on daytime MTV iirc. He invented the excessively expensive pop video to prop up a mediocre song maybe. What does 'rotation on daytime MTV ' mean, is that a significant achievement? And what work do you regard as legendary? Fcuk off you clueless gimp.

Not sure why people have a preoccupation with the musical cannon. Any artist can only really deliver 2/3 great albums and he did that with ease.

Goody was a media invention, on the other hand Jacko invented the pop video, some legendary work. First black artist to get rotation on daytime MTV iirc.

Yup. Though Ashley probably doesn't know who Bassong is.

How is it ridiculous? One of the greatest selling artists of all time. Normal I'd say.

His dad was a monster by all accounts and it seems his family life consisted mainly of performing and honing skills from a very early age. For me despite all that something shone through it all.

Musical and entertainment genius. R.I.P.

Not as good as Peep Show. Trying to spread it too thin really.

Nicos is right on this one. They could not only follow him they could take a piss for him if needed.

Thought it was slotted for summer. http://www.avatarmoviezone.com/

I'm starting to get into that mode now. I hate to be overly cynical and Parkyish but there's a whiff of piss-taking and conspiracy about the whole thing. I expect Hughton to lead us out against West Brom with our second string playing. I remember a time not so long ago when I used to be positive.

I've been hinting at it on N.O. and the frothing has been unreal.