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I wonder if he's still talking in that strange Dutch accent. "Yes, well, we are pleased for sure, we were wanting a big performance this season y'know...." His success can be explained and indeed the accent in so much as that he has been replaced by a crack Dutch manager clone. Heard it here first.

Back to the future. Err the player Roeder had available. 1 Republic of Ireland GK Shay Given 2 Republic of Ireland DF Stephen Carr 4 Peru MF Nolberto Solano 5 Turkey MF Emre Belözoğlu 6 France DF Jean-Alain Boumsong (till August 2006) 7 Spain FW Albert Luque 8 England MF Kieron Dyer 9 Nigeria FW Obafemi Martins 10 England FW Michael Owen 11 Republic of Ireland MF Damien Duff 12 England GK Steve Harper 14 France MF Charles N'Zogbia 15 Italy FW Giuseppe Rossi 15 United States DF Oguchi Onyewu 16 England MF James Milner 17 England MF Scott Parker 18 Australia DF Craig Moore 19 England DF Titus Bramble No. Position Player 20 France FW Antoine Sibierski 22 England MF Nicky Butt 23 England FW Shola Ameobi 27 England DF Steven Taylor 39 England FW Andrew Carroll 40 Netherlands GK Tim Krul

Cause your brains fell out when you lost weight. The point is that you can have an average/poor squad if it is compensated by a highly experienced or 'successful' manger, or you can have it the other way round, a good squad and young/newish manager....One cancels the other out to an extent as was the case at Inter and Birmingham and as is now the case at Fulham (although I'd argue most of their players are better than ours)...But you can't get away with having both ie AN INEXPERIENCED MANAGER AND A POOR SQUAD.

If you said anything like the above I wouldn't have disagreed. I only argue with you when you're off the mark. For example, you said what a good appointment Roeder was, while I was spot on about it being another downward step on the path of lowered expectation and dwindling returns... http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...st&p=136657 Your refusal to say a bad thing about Shepherd meant you defended some of the worst decisions. I said that very phrase often. I said I was "hopeful" that Roeder would turn out well, just like Hughton now in fact. However, at least you agree with me that a manager with one hand tied behind his back is on a hiding to nothing.......at least the managers the Halls and Shepherd appointed were given the support and backing which is the whole point. Not many clubs actually do this, its a matter of choice. Glad you agree with me Leazes. Took your time. As I said, only howaythelads agreed with me when I said all of this a long time ago. Source? That is the kiss of death.

Yeah the Rangers and Inter boards sat down and said "Yeah we'll give some dopey cunt a chance"...Everyone agreed and the meetings were closed. You stupid fuck.

Clegg's persona is roughly 50% daytime soap, 40% human, and 10% statesman. Cameron is 100% something. He isn't even a man; more a texture-mapped character model. There's a different kind of software at work here, some advanced alien technology projecting a passable simulation of affability; a straight-to-DVD retread of the Blair ascendancy re-enacted by androids. Like an ostensibly realistic human character in a state-of-the-art CGI cartoon, he's almost convincing – assuming you can ignore the shrieking, cavernous lack of anything approaching a soul. Which you can't." Spot on. He's a vacuously smiling drone and no mistake.

Rangers His work at Hibs was noticed, and he was linked with several moves to England, before he was appointed as Rangers manager in December 2001[8] after outgoing Rangers manager Dick Advocaat recommended McLeish to chairman David Murray.[9] McLeish was an instant success at Rangers, winning both the Scottish Cup[10] and Scottish League Cup[11] in his first season, but the big prize of the league title was essentially lost before his arrival. His second season saw him go one better when he won the domestic treble, with the help of top players such as Ronald de Boer and Barry Ferguson.[12] Rangers' worsening financial state saw many of his top players leave in the summer of 2003. Celtic won the league comfortably in season 2003–04, and Rangers failed to win any trophies.[13] McLeish was consequently put under pressure from fans after his poor signings and a record run of seven consecutive derby losses to Celtic.[14] The high profile Bosman signings of Jean-Alain Boumsong and Dado Pršo in the close season of 2004–05 gave Rangers renewed hope of regaining the title from Celtic's grasp.[15] McLeish's team won the 2005 league title on a dramatic last day, an outcome that had looked highly unlikely after Rangers fell five points behind leaders Celtic with just four games remaining.[16] After this unexpected success, McLeish and his Rangers team headed into the 2005–06 SPL campaign as favourites to retain the championship. McLeish made a number of signings, despite having little money to spend. These included Julien Rodriguez and Ian Murray. After a reasonable start to the season, including a win over Celtic,[17] Rangers suffered a series of poor results between September and November. This period included a club record of 10 games without a win. However the tenth match of this run, a 1–1 draw with Inter Milan in the Champions League, took Rangers into the knockout stages of the tournament for the first time.[18] Despite the poor domestic form, McLeish guided Rangers to the last 16 of the Champions League, where they were defeated on the away goals rule by Villarreal.[19] They became the first Scottish team to progress this far in the European Cup since 1993, and the first Scottish team to progress through a European group stage.[18] In December, chairman David Murray publicly announced his support for McLeish.[20] Rangers then went on a good run of results in December and January. This run of good results came to a sudden halt when they were defeated 3–0 by Hibernian in the Scottish Cup,[21] prompting protests outside Ibrox against both McLeish and David Murray.[22] On 9 February 2006, it was announced by chairman David Murray that McLeish would be standing down as manager at the end of that season.[23] It was later announced that he would be succeeded by former Olympique Lyonnais manager Paul Le Guen. Rangers beat Hearts 2–0 at Ibrox Stadium in his final match as manager.[24] [edit] Scotland McLeish said after leaving Rangers that he would not manage another Scottish club, because he felt that he had achieved everything in the Scottish game.[25] He was linked in the media with a number of managerial positions in England while he worked as a television pundit for the BBC and Setanta Sports. McLeish took charge of the Scotland national side on 29 January 2007.[26] His assistants in the job were Roy Aitken and Andy Watson. McLeish's first game in charge of the national team was a UEFA Euro 2008 qualifying match, a 2–1 victory against Georgia on 24 March 2007 at Hampden Park.[27] His second game was an away fixture against Italy on 28 March 2007 which ended in a 2–0 defeat.[28] McLeish's Scotland side then went on to defeat the Faroe Islands away in June,[29] Lithuania at home in September[30] before recording a historic victory in Paris four days later by defeating France 1–0 in the Parc des Princes.[31] James McFadden's 64th-minute strike from 30 yards was enough to earn Scotland the win and returned them to the top of Group B with three games to play. This result has been hailed as one of the Scotland national team's greatest victories.[32] Scotland's next success was at home to Ukraine, winning 3–1 at Hampden on 13 October. McLeish suffered his second defeat as manager, away in Georgia on 17 October. This result left him facing a decider against the World Champions, Italy. Scotland lost the game, McLeish's last, and Italy qualified for the finals.

What do they both have in common? You don't seem desperate for their managers to fail? Did I get it right? No. So you also want them to fail? I am stumped then Here's a clue. ROY HODGSON Managed. 985–1990 Malmö 1990–1992 Neuchâtel Xamax 1992–1995 Switzerland 1995–1997 Internazionale 1997–1998 Blackburn Rovers 1999 Internazionale 1999–2000 Grasshopper 2000–2001 Copenhagen *Inc two solid spells as Inter manager. nternazionale Before the European Championships, Hodgson joined Italian Serie A giants Internazionale, where he worked from 1995 to 1997. He presided over a rebuilding phase. Inter had finished 13th and 6th in the seasons prior to his arrival. After a terrible start to the season, Hodgson was brought in and guided the club to a 7th place finish in the 1995–96 season, qualifying for the UEFA Cup. The 1996–97 season saw Inter finish 3rd and reach the 1997 UEFA Cup Final, losing on penalties over two legs. Hodgson says of his time at Inter, "We lacked stars, apart from Paul Ince. It wasn't the Inter we see today of household names. They weren't the best technically but physically they were like machines. The Premier League is like that now, but back then Italy was far ahead."[4] The side Hodgson built would go on to win the UEFA Cup in 1998 and finish runner-up in Serie A under his successor, Luigi Simoni. And now doing wonders at Fulham.

What do they both have in common? You don't seem desperate for their managers to fail? Did I get it right? No.

Err what do Fulham and Brmingham have in common that we don't. Take your time.

The Lizards stop the vital fluids once you lose power. [/icke].

As I understand it the club owes the money to the company he setup to buy the club - two separate entities. CT has it wrong imo - if he was going to "write off" the loan he would have converted it to equity with no value which is what Abramovitch did - keeping it as a loan suggests intended repayment. That's how I read it.

That's why CH won't be replaced the lickspittle that he is.

Generally the BBC's reporting on Palestine and Gaza have been nothing short of a disgrace. It won't be forgotten.

Which of these regulations strangle business exactly? I dunno but I thought using a large number would avoid futher inspection.

Walkabout is full of cunts.

Go up the Shepherds leg and you're sorted.

Yeah but we actually make money as a country.

I fancy it but it's quite expensive to get to I think despite its proximity. Plus it'll be one of those dodgy SAS airline fokkers no doubt. Didn't Slartibartfast design the Fjords as well? It is also ridiculously expensive while over there as well. My uncle has family in Norway and when his family go he pavcks everyobodies suitcases with food and drink. My cousin said she was complaining the whole holiday because her clothes smelled of lamb. Ah bt if you do the Finland lake district holiday you can get up in the morn and catch your own fish. and there is this...

Finland is really nice as well, been 3 times. http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/country...pe/fitravel.htm Would love to see the Northern Lights but I'd like to go over in the summer as well. Love it there. Mrs P gets a bit rattled alone with me in the woods after a week or so...

Finland is really nice as well, been 3 times. http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/country...pe/fitravel.htm

Why aren't they swamped with immigrants then? Is it because it is too cold or the beer is too expensive? http://www.mynorway.co.uk/ That looks fantastic!

Why aren't they swamped with immigrants then? Is it because it is too cold or the beer is too expensive? Immigrants are too thick to go there.

The only issue I can see would be whether we negotiate with countries on an individual basis or with the EU as a whole. If it was the EU as a whole then we'd still have the same situation with EU immigration as we currently do. The problem we have is that Labour got its figures wrong. Virtually every other country saw the risk and limited numbers.....Not Us tho I think the limits were only for a limited time (which may have now expired anyway) though. What limits were these then? Never heard of them before, I was under the impression intra-euro immigration was higher in many countires than it was here, happy to find out more about it if someone has a link (not to UKIP or similar though). Iirc, for a period (4 or 5 years?) existing EU could limit the number of people they'd admit from the new members (Poland, Romania, etc.) Right, sounds like we fucked up a bit then. Just wait till Turkey gain admission.