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He is a snake. Did well with those football giants Israel apparently iirc.

That top tens not mine btw. There is a case for O'Bleary I guess and Harry.

I tell you what I consider middle class what I did. Spent £14 this week making my own Dolmio. Was nicer too. Dolmio is a brand. If you made your own it's a ragout. I don't know, uppity plebs Just pasta sauce isn't it?

TEN WORST. Christian Gross (Tottenham, December 1997-September 1998) Lost 6-1 to Chelsea in his first home game in charge, and brought Spurs to the brink of relegation in his first season. Alan Sugar used his popular catchphrase “You’re Fired!” to Gross just 3 games into the 1998-99 season. Managed nine wins in 27 games at Tottenham. Paul Hart (Portsmouth, February-November 2009) Tony Adams started the decline at Portsmouth, Hart just helped it along further. You can argue he had limited resources as basically the whole team was sold, but in his first few months in charge, Hart still had the likes of Crouch, Krancjar, Distin and Sol Campbell at the club. Led Pompey to the worst start in Premiership history by losing their first seven games this season, before being sacked in November. Has since gone on to spend just a month in charge of QPR and is now at Crystal Palace. Tony Adams (Portsmouth, October 2008-February 2009) It was all going so well. Pompey had just won the FA Cup five months earlier, and when Harry Redknapp left for Spurs, Adams just had to carry on what he and Redknapp started. Four months, 10 points and 16 games later, Adams was out of a job. Alain Perrin (Portsmouth, April-November 2005) After managing in France with Marseille, Perrin was expected to succeed in England. It didn’t happen: 4 wins in 20 league games and with Portsmouth 17th in the Premiership, Perrin was sacked and Harry Redknapp resumed the reigns at Fratton Park. Egil Olsen (Wimbledon, June 1999-May 2000) After achieving great success with the Norwegian national team, Olsen went to manage the Crazy Gang. His long-ball tactics were despised by fans, and under his guidance, Wimbledon were relegated from the Premiership for the first time in 15 years. Vinnie Jones (who never played under Olsen) said his biggest regret about the Norwegian’s departure was, “I never got a chance to chin him.” Sammy Lee (Bolton, April-October 2007) After a highly successful partnership with “Big Sam” Allardyce at Bolton, “Little Sam” took over when his mate took charge at Newcastle. But Lee couldn’t cut it in management: winning one out of 11 games and leaving Bolton in 19th place in the league. Now back as a number 2, serving under Rafa Benitez at Liverpool. Paul Jewell (Derby, November 2007-December 2008) After doing well at Wigan, Jewell was appointed as boss of Derby after the departure of Billy Davies. Yes, Derby were hopeless that season, but if your team finishes with 11 points (a new Premiership record) and doesn’t even win a game in the Premiership when you are in charge (Derby’s only win that year was under Davies), then that says something about your management skills. Graeme Souness (Newcastle, 2004-February 2006) Excellent at Blackburn, atrocious at Newcastle. In Souness’ reign as Newcastle boss, the club finished 14th in the Premiership in his first season in charge, and were 15th in the table when Souness was sacked in 2006. Souness had a number of falling outs with players, including Craig Bellamy, Jermaine Jenas and Laurent Robert, as well as spending big money on flops like Albert Luque, Jean-Alain Boumsong and Michael Owen. Injuries to key players affected his success at Newcastle, but Souness’ unpopularity with the fans cost him in the end. Paul Ince (Blackburn, June-December 2008) Became the first black British manager in the history of the Premiership, when Blackburn employed him after a successful stint with MK Dons. Ince was tipped for big things with Blackburn, but never really got the chance to make things work. After 177 days and 3 wins in 17 games, Ince was given the boot by Blackburn. Howard Wilkinson (Sunderland, October 2002-March 2003) Wilkinson was supposed to be an experienced manager who would help Sunderland achieve safety in the Premiership. What happened was 13 defeats in 20 games for Wilko, who was sacked in March 2003, and let Mick McCarthy come in and finish the job. That season, Sunderland finished with the worst points total in Premiership history with 19, which stood until Derby were kind enough to take that record off them. The Next 5: Iain Dowie (Charlton, May-November 2006) Brian Kidd (Blackburn, December 1998-November 1999), Peter Reid (Leeds, March-November 2003), Steve Wigley (Southampton, August-December 2004), Les Reed (Charlton, November-December 2006

I tell you what I consider middle class what I did. Spent £14 this week making my own Dolmio. Was nicer too. Should keep stuff like that to yerself Stevie goes against type.

Dodgy fucker, only man on record to have sucessfully undermined Mourinho. Good point, heavily behind his removal imo. They all stick together. I wonder if Abramovic is taking time off, I bet he'll be sat in his West Stand Box on the piss as normal. Certainly was. Roman doesn't drink btw.

1. Mourinho 2. Wenger 3. Fergy. 4. Benitez 5. Moyes 6. Ancellotti 7. O'Neill 8. Keegan 9. Dalglish 10. Hodgson

Grinding your own beans to make coffee.

felliani?

Reading books.

You should talk her into giving up work for a couple of years, much better for the baby IMO.

Dodgy fucker, only man on record to have sucessfully undermined Mourinho.

Err the media does, I don't think most average Joe's give a shit. More worried that this years white van is a little faster than last years iyam.

I'm probably being thick as mince here but didn't the debt effectively come from the over-evaluation of the club? So basically the Shepherds and Halls made enormous profits from the club over and above the decade of unjustified salaries and dividends they paid themselves? I suppose that I'll have to add the mandatory disclaimer that I in no way, shape, or form am I definding Ashley of course. Shouldn't get messed up in this one Renty it's the blind leading the dead.

With all due respect to Ev fans, if you don't rate Moyes you don't really understand football. What he's done by stabalising and then taking forward Ev on a very modest budget is amazing. People bang on about Hodgson, but Moyes would make a superb Eng manager.

The things here is that both sides of the case have merit. There was a time when finance was cheap and easy coming (which in turn made quality players more expensive) and now there is a case for tightening belts and smelling the coffee. There was only really one bad manegerial apppointment that did most of the damage, which at the tail end was exacerbated by the KK fiasco. Also it's no good saying Mort and FSam bought some of the duds, cause Mort was MA call (a lawyer with no football experience).

Davies rather than Ireland? There is a way of getting Arteta in, but at the cost of a decent defence. I was thinking about this the other day, that actually on a tight budget we aren't that far off a decent side with limited spending and in reality we could only really swap a few players being realistic and not attracting players from Euro hunting sides.

I can see what you're saying with that but it all comes down to hindsight, its easy now to slag off the past quoting the likes of Owen as big price failures but we werent exactly moaning about it the day he signed. Was Shearer a flop? should we have not taken a gamble on him? Under your logic you would never buy any established big name players because they could fail miserably. At the same time though they could have the best years of their careers here and pay back their transfer fees ten times over. Its all a gamble but its better to take that punt than to sit with the likes of Leon Best on the teamsheet hoping that some miracle happens and he becomes a world beater. When Owen signed we didn't know how it was being funded. My point is though that you can't just keep making those types of signings without them paying off. At some point you've got to step back, say 'ok that didn't work', and start again. Money doesn't grow on trees. We'd all love to be able to just spend our way out of debt by buying the best players and being in the Champions League , and having loads of chinks running about in our shirts, but the fact is if you go down that route and it doesn't work it can cripple you. I don't need to point out the examples here, we all knows there's been a couple. wtf are you talking about, it didn't pay off ? Of course it paid off, stupid, the club expanded massively, developed the stadium, played in the Champions League [see bold] and were the 14th richest club in the world. If that isn't paying off, what sort of progress do you think Mikey is making 7th richest.

I could see you mentally preparing it yesterday.

Every time I see your name "Renton last post" I think to myself I bet I shake my head and think what a cunt at the end of the post. More often than not I do. OK, explain what makes me a cunt on this post then? You put a negative slant on everything. Walking past The Gate you find galling, the only time it's over ran with cunts outside is a weekend, and the Bigg Market, what old cunts falling out the Beehive in to the bookies? As for beggars, only thing I've ever been asked for was a tab, and tramps, I haven't seen a bamp (actual bamp) in town for years. There are homeless people who live outside my office though, that's just a fact, and a couple of fairly agressive beggars too. I walk past the Gate and up Barrack road quite often at night and its not always pleasent to say the least. Neither is using the Metro. You paint Newcastle as some utopia but that's just ridiculous imo, it's just like any other city. Regardless, saying this hardly make me a cunt though ffs. Also the Tyne valley, nice enough, but literally nothing special about it at all. If you like it for personal reasons then fair enough, but you should be more objective in your appraisal, otherwise you just come across as an insular tit. I can just see you walking up Barrack Road scratching your beard with one of these bags round your shoulder giving dirty looks to someone who's just walked past you smoking. http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?showtopic=28318

The nub of it is that LeonardodeRenton designed it himself. The mind does wander.

Cause he's 38.

I've been told it's a copy of this...