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Just the fact that storing or dealing with the waste alone regardless of accidents is risky and expensive. Nuke power has never been efficent it is only possible because of huge amounts of grants and subsidies from goverments around the world. It is categorically the most risky form of energy on earth. That depends on whether you believe in climate change or not, which I know you don't because you like to be fashionably contrary. My beliefs are immaterial we need to plan for a nuke free future. Or we're going to end up with more and more deadspots on this planet and end up killing more and more sealife and the biosphere. Nuke energy is a con.

Nothing's free. Geothermal energy only works in places with suitable geology, just like wind power it's not a panacea for the UK's energy shortage. How bad is the shortage? There is talk in Germany that they will decomission all stations over the next decade and Merkel was even talking 2016. Germany acutally exports energy now even though it relies on gas from russia.

Phlegm is just relaxed muscle in the world of j69.

Good point about the GD.

I never get ill, but I've got a proper rattler of a cough at the minute. Felt crap this morning and thought the gym would be a waste of time, but it ended up being alright. Caught it in the gym no doubt. All that recycled air is packed with nasties.

Italy bans food imports from Jpn.

Think Norway and Iceland use geothermal. It's clean and fairly cheap.

Just the fact that storing or dealing with the waste alone regardless of accidents is risky and expensive. Nuke power has never been efficent it is only possible because of huge amounts of grants and subsidies from goverments around the world. It is categorically the most risky form of energy on earth.

The forum edges back into Doom mode, its natural state.

Ideally next to your house. Satellite image of Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant View larger picture Nuclear power plant accidents: Number three reactor of the Fukushima nuclear plant is seen burning after a blast following an earthquake and tsunami Photograph: Ho/DigitalGlobe How often do nuclear power plants go wrong? How many accidents and incidents are there? The explosions and nuclear fuel rods melting at Japan's Fukushima nuclear power plant, following the Sendai earthquake and tsunami last week, have caused fears of what will happen next. Today Japan's nuclear safety agency has raised the nuclear alert level for Japan from four to five - making it two levels lower than the Chernobyl disaster in 1986. So far, the Japanese authorities have maintained that there is "no cause to fear a major nuclear accident". We have identified 33 serious incidents and accidents at nuclear power stations since the first recorded one in 1952 at Chalk River in Ontario, Canada. The information is partially from the International Atomic Energy Authority - which, astonishingly, fails to keep a complete historical database - and partially from reports. Of those we have identified, six happened in the US and five in Japan. The UK and Russia have had three apiece. Using Google Fusion tables, we've put these on a map, so you can see how they're spread around the globe: Get the fullscreen version But how serious are they? The International Atomic Energy Authority ranks them using a special International Nuclear Events Scale (INES) - ranging from 'anomaly' to 'major accident', numbered from 1 to 7. The events at Fukushima are level 5, so far and there has only been one 7 in history: Chernobyl in 1986. You can see the full ranking system below and on the attached spreadsheet Country IAEA description 2011 Fukushima 5 Japan Reactor shutdown after the 2011 Sendai earthquake and tsunami; failure of emergency cooling caused an explosion 2011 Onagawa Japan Reactor shutdown after the 2011 Sendai earthquake and tsunami caused a fire 2006 Fleurus 4 Belgium Severe health effects for a worker at a commercial irradiation facility as a result of high doses of radiation 2006 Forsmark 2 Sweden Degraded safety functions for common cause failure in the emergency power supply system at nuclear power plant 2006 Erwin US Thirty-five litres of a highly enriched uranium solution leaked during transfer 2005 Sellafield 3 UK Release of large quantity of radioactive material, contained within the installation 2005 Atucha 2 Argentina Overexposure of a worker at a power reactor exceeding the annual limit 2005 Braidwood US Nuclear material leak 2003 Paks 3 Hungary Partially spent fuel rods undergoing cleaning in a tank of heavy water ruptured and spilled fuel pellets 1999 Tokaimura 4 Japan Fatal overexposures of workers following a criticality event at a nuclear facility 1999 Yanangio 3 Peru Incident with radiography source resulting in severe radiation burns 1999 Ikitelli 3 Turkey Loss of a highly radioactive Co-60 source 1999 Ishikawa 2 Japan Control rod malfunction 1993 Tomsk 4 Russia Pressure buildup led to an explosive mechanical failure 1993 Cadarache 2 France Spread of contamination to an area not expected by design 1989 Vandellos 3 Spain Near accident caused by fire resulting in loss of safety systems at the nuclear power station 1989 Greifswald Germany Excessive heating which damaged ten fuel rods 1986 Chernobyl 7 Ukraine (USSR) Widespread health and environmental effects. External release of a significant fraction of reactor core inventory 1986 Hamm-Uentrop Germany Spherical fuel pebble became lodged in the pipe used to deliver fuel elements to the reactor 1981 Tsuraga 2 Japan More than 100 workers were exposed to doses of up to 155 millirem per day radiation 1980 Saint Laurent des Eaux 4 France Melting of one channel of fuel in the reactor with no release outside the site 1979 Three Mile Island 5 US Severe damage to the reactor core 1977 Jaslovské Bohunice 4 Czechoslovakia Damaged fuel integrity, extensive corrosion damage of fuel cladding and release of radioactivity 1969 Lucens Switzerland Total loss of coolant led to a power excursion and explosion of experimental reactor 1967 Chapelcross UK Graphite debris partially blocked a fuel channel causing a fuel element to melt and catch fire 1966 Monroe US Sodium cooling system malfunction 1964 Charlestown US Error by a worker at a United Nuclear Corporation fuel facility led to an accidental criticality 1959 Santa Susana Field Laboratory US Partial core meltdown 1958 Chalk River Canada Due to inadequate cooling a damaged uranium fuel rod caught fire and was torn in two 1958 Vinča Yugoslavia During a subcritical counting experiment a power buildup went undetected - six scientists received high doses 1957 Kyshtym 6 Russia Significant release of radioactive material to the environment from explosion of a high activity waste tank. 1957 Windscale Pile 5 UK Release of radioactive material to the environment following a fire in a reactor core 1952 Chalk River 5 Canada A reactor shutoff rod failure, combined with several operator errors, led to a major power excursion of more than double the reactor's rated output at AECL's NRX reactor International Nuclear Events Scale (INES) Click heading to sort table. Download this data Level Definition People and environment Radiological barriers & control Defence in depth Example SOURCE: IAEA 7 Major accident Major release of radio active material with widespread health and environmental effects requiring implementation of planned and extended countermeasures Chernobyl, Ukraine, 1986 6 Serious accident Significant release of radioactive material likely to require implementation of planned countermeasures. Kyshtym, Russia, 1957 5 Accident with wider consequences Limited release of radioactive material likely to require implementation of • Severe damage to reactor core. Windscale, UK, 1957; Three Mile Island, 1979 some planned countermeasures • Several deaths from radiation • Release of large quantities of radioactive material within an installation with a high probability of significant public exposure. This could arise from a major criticality accident or fire 4 Accident with local consequences • Minor release of radioactive material unlikely to result in implementation of planned countermeasures other than • Fuel melt or damage to fuel resulting in more than 0.1% release of core inventory. FUKUSHIMA 1, 2011 local food controls. • Release of significant quantities of radioactive • At least one death from radiation. material within an installation with a high probability of significant public exposure. 3 Serious incident • Exposure in excess of ten times the statutory annual limit for workers. • Exposure rates of more than 1 Sv/h in an operating area. • Near accident at a nuclear power plant Sellafield, UK, 2005 • Non-lethal deterministic health effect (e.g., burns) from radiation. • Severe contamination in an area not expected by design, with a with no safety provisions remaining.

UK nuclear plants must go ahead, says EDF Nuclear power plant EDF said its UK plants had demonstrated "good and robust safety" Continue reading the main story Related Stories The nuclear crisis unfolding in Japan will not affect the plans of French power giant EDF to build new reactors in the UK, the company's boss has told the BBC. Vincent de Rivaz said lessons had to be learned but, following years of debate, the new reactors "have to go ahead". He said the company had already reviewed back-up systems and emergency plans at its existing UK plants. Some countries are reviewing nuclear strategy in light of events in Japan. Last week, China said it had suspended approval for new nuclear power stations following the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi plant in north east Japan. German Chancellor Angela Merkel has also announced a "measured exit" from nuclear power after shutting down seven of the country's oldest reactors. 'Robust safety' The UK government has commissioned a report into the lessons of the Japanese disaster, the initital findings of which will be published in May. Some campaigners have called on the government to go further, with Greenpeace arguing that the approval process for new nuclear sites should be suspended until the report is published. But Mr de Rivaz, speaking on the BBC's The Andrew Marr show, praised what he called the "clear-headed and calm reaction" of the government, regulators and local communities in the UK to the Japan nuclear crisis. He said the lessons from Japan had to be put into practice in the new plants in the UK, but said the circumstances in the two countries were very different. He said that it was very important to be sure that nuclear plants were safe, and that EDF's existing UK plants had demonstrated "good, robust safety". "Nuclear is not a single solution [to the UK's energy needs], but there is no solution without nuclear," he concluded. Madness. The French love to spread the nukes innit. See the genocide in French Polynesia and all the mox fuel in the jap reactors.... France the new danger.

I am number four. Thought it was gonna be teenage sci fi shit. But actually it is really entertaining. 6.8

The scariest thing about that Wiki is that he was born in 1974. He looks fucking ancient, yet he was born the year before me. He shouts a lot. Probably aged him.

I suppose Greg Palast (the blole interviewed) is a nutjob as well? You're so narrow minded you probably fall over cause your head is saw shaped. I get my info from everywhere. I don't sit there crying into a BBC teatowel you nonce.

Think when the truth comes out we will see how economical with the truth Tepco have been....

The french are basically doing it cause Sarcastic lost votes by not intervining in Tunisia or morocco or wherever it was.

Barca v Madrid final would be juggernaut. Man U will probably luck their way into the final mind. Red nose pointing at his watch in the 102 min...

That may be true but do you seriously think the UK ever acts for causes which isn't in our own self interest? Regarding Libya, Cameron has rightly pointed out that this isn't another Iraq precisley because there is a UN mandate this time. Also, the French are taking a leading role along with us which seems to have escaped your attention. Of course, both the UK and France have massive vested interests in Libya which is no coincidence. Yup. I still remember seeing Darth Blairs rosey little cheeks cuddling up to Gadaffee a couple of years back.

YOu let him off the hook when he was reeling.

Never been the same since Alonso and Masch left.

fripped your post.

If you really want to understand the jap psyche watch the gameshows.