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No they tend not to fight unless the enemy can't defend itself. If it really comes down to it they send the black boys to fight. Anymore stupid ideas?

Yeah and you missed out the 80 million who died in the predominantly Christian white man world wars inc the industrial gassing of 6 million Jews. It's about as stupid as blaming Isis solely on Islam as it is blaming the world wars on Christianity. America alone has had 79 wars or interventions since its inception. It's essentially a psychopathic killing machine which kicked off with the genocide of the Native Indians. These are white Christian boys.

Hezbollah are fighting against Isis in Syria.

Who dismantled the Iraqi army? And once dismantled what did they do? Think you'll find many Baathists within the current Isis command chain being proper Sunni's as they are.

You're in trouble now. Will someone think of THE MORAL HIGH GROUND!!!

I'm angry cause I'm having to self-censor like a motherfucker.

Well who do you think it might be? I thought you were a lefty? You read your history? Don't you see the patterns over and over again? This is Post-Capitalism the veil is all but lifted.

We're partly to blame but not wholly. It's kept cloudy and nebulous on purpose isn't it? Do you really think power will ever create a realpolitik where they might lose out?

They don't want a solution Renty. The solutions would harm our interests.

We're all cowards and we've all sat back and let it happen. That's the fucking truth.

Who's defend it?

Covert Western support for Jihad starting back in the day in Afghanistan up to now is well documented as you well know. Your flim flam is your cowardice. Your cowardice is the your inabilty to accept that murder and genocide is carried out routinely in our name. I am as complicit as you are but I will not lie to myself.

.......and it's only a matter of time before we can't say what we think on the internet. It's coming, you better believe it.

Blair is a liar and traitor to his own country, everybody knows it and nothing will happen. Meanwhile he swans around having made many millions having pops at Corbyn or whomever else might threaten the establishment. I can't rationalize it in my mind and never will.

Tell me one Western leader who in the last two decades has made any sense on the existential conflict with radical Islam? Tell me one country that has had a rational policy with regard to containing it and finally defeating it? The political elite is bankrupt and out of ideas or so self-serving they are traitors to the state. I simply refuse to believe they don't know the funding chains, the logistical support and where the merceneries and jihads come from and who trains and pays them. They've done little or nothing about it for in some insane way it has suited their purpose in Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemena....the list goes on. They know. They know all of it. They will continue to do only what suits them.

There are blatantly obvious solutions but our leaders are comprehensively disconnected from reality. The French political system is based around the elite minority extensively educated in 2/3 blue chip universities and so are ours and its pretty much the same the West over. When Sarkozy was squealing for the take down of Gadaffi did he really have any real world idea of the consequences? I doubt it. They are simply not equipped to take the bold steps (one could argue not inclined) to re-contextualize the relationships between people and history.

Spot on those.

Firstly this is a shameful and cowardly attack on all levels regardless of the perceived motivation. But if we are to have an overview and if we are to rebuild and repair, our Western leaders recent history of psychopathic interventions (against the wishes of the mass of the population) and unethical Geo-political cosy partnerships with funders of terrorism worldwide (Saudi, Qatar, UAE) has to be addressed. Wahhabism has been going only a hundred years and is the most perverse, archaic and brutal form of Islam on the planet and its dream has always been to stoke a perpetual war between Sunni and Shia who for decades lived side by side in many secular countries (Iraq, Libya, Syria)...and dozens of others. It has suited the purposes of the elite to create failed states, to spread fear in host communities, to divide peoples, to spread the never ending drivel of cynical propaganda, to arm, to toy with our hopes and destroy the future of our children because they will never be affected. They live in a different world, their children go to the best schools, they see profit and exploitation regardless of race or religion as their primary goal, to drive down wages, lock in surveillance and the police state. Make no mistake, these events are a godsend to them and whatever pantomime they give in front of the camera, behind the scenes the champagne will be flowing. The war drums aka the profit machine will now beat louder than ever. I said in the Syria thread a couple of weeks ago that the war is coming to Europe. It's coming to Europe because we and the greater Europe are in their way and need to be taught a lesson regarding our 'rights', our wages, our pensions our generally decent attempts at multiculturalism and our failure to fully get behind the military adventurism of the internationalist cabal.

Up for the new Bond apparently.

Gloom files being rapidly re-evaluated as we speak. Markets shaken.

Some geezer gives a talk at the Brookings Institute got a book out and all that.....Isis expert and then he says, "Yeah we have to empower the Sunni's to throw off the yolk of Isis". Clown.

This all goes back to the Tories wasting the North Sea oil bonanza in the 80's and 90's on tax cuts and other giveaways instead of using it to build up the NHS and social infastructure.

I'm sure it goes on and at top clubs but I think it's not wholly widespread. There were a lot of stories about Barca players not tiring in games but that might be cause they keep the ball a lot...

That's right it was growth hormone. There was a period when Maradona bulked up really quickly and gained a yard in pace....iirc