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Ha now that is the funniest thing i've seen in a while. 150461[/snapback] Is your post count and name are a tribute to Heinz? 150585[/snapback] Is English are your second language? 150589[/snapback] Pees off 150592[/snapback] I'm pretty sure we are cash poor in the short to medium term.

Did you not want to play, like? 150586[/snapback] Shut it! 150591[/snapback] Not taking Guily and Anelka sealed their fate....Good.

If? 150553[/snapback] Brazil look woeful upfront compard to Argentina.

How do you think the Human Rights Act got through in its present format ? They are concerned about the privacy of you and me, of course. The phrase "you and me" includes ALL people, including unidentified terrorists. MP's will have their own views on this, just like me and you. You put freedom before security, I put security before freedom, because I think there is no real freedom if there is inadequate security. The Bill is to help the security services identify these terrorists, not become a police state as you claim. Some MP's will also be very much aware of the fact that these terrorists would very much like to blow them up while they are walking into the very building you mention. Being closer to this sort of thing rather than just read about it would tend to have a sobering effect on your view of it, although some may naively believe it won't happen to them. 150377[/snapback] Alright lads, mind if I join in? I'm going to anyway, just though I'd be polite about it though. Some questions for LM: How much do you actually know about the Human Rights Act, "in it's present format" or otherwise LM? Have you read it? Would you prefer we had no Human Rights? I quite like having Human Rights, myself. How much first-hand experience of terrorism do you have? How much of that is "Islamic" terrorism? Personally I have none, zero, fuck-all, just like almost everyone else in this country. Of those that do, nearly all of them only have experience of "Irish" terrorism. So for me terrorism is a tiny insignificant little issue because it's highly likely that it is NEVER going to affect me in any way!!! Actually that's not entirely true, is it, because it is going to affect me, isn't it. Some people with highly dubious motives are going to use it as an excuse to do what they've always really wanted to do and remove some of my Human Rights. The very same Human Rights, that I actually quite like, and they've managed to con people like you into thinking they're protecting. That's the ACTUAL threat from terrorism, not getting blown-up, poisoned, or shot - well not by the terrorists, anyway - the threat to our way of life, the threat posed by "OUR" government and their dubiously motivated mates. What do you reckon? PS: If you think security is more desirable than freedom, you'd be pretty safe from a terrorist in prison, why not get yourself locked-up? Protective custody and all that. 150421[/snapback] Oh no! Another loony lefty sandal wearing beardy weirdy fancy Dan know nowt do-gooder! Good post btw, I agree with your sentiments entirely. Can we swop Leazes Mag for your (N-O's) much more reasoned poster, NE5? 150433[/snapback] Indigo, Looks like you took the time to actually think through that post. I was just toying with him like.

gan.fooooook;yasel 150386[/snapback]

How do you think the Human Rights Act got through in its present format ? They are concerned about the privacy of you and me, of course. The phrase "you and me" includes ALL people, including unidentified terrorists. MP's will have their own views on this, just like me and you. You put freedom before security, I put security before freedom, because I think there is no real freedom if there is inadequate security. The Bill is to help the security services identify these terrorists, not become a police state as you claim. Some MP's will also be very much aware of the fact that these terrorists would very much like to blow them up while they are walking into the very building you mention. Being closer to this sort of thing rather than just read about it would tend to have a sobering effect on your view of it, although some may naively believe it won't happen to them. 150377[/snapback] See this is where you seem clueless, The Euro high court has supremacy on all matters of Human rights and immigaration legislation....Did you not know that? And we are signatories to this. In fact we have already been warned about our new anti-terrror legislative plans. And if it gets tested and thrown out of the Euro court we're back to square one. Do you actually know anything at all about this issue?

surely people who want a debate, don't edit people's posts though ? 150326[/snapback] THEY AREN'T EDITING YOUR POSTS YOU CRAZY OLD MAN. 150328[/snapback] Of course he has you daft shite. I'm 51. The same as Glenn Roeder. And look as young as he does. OK. Now, Rob is old 150334[/snapback] Resorting to insults, it's true what the say about old people having worse manners. They're not editing your posts, they're deliberately misquoting you for comedic effect. There's a difference. 150337[/snapback] It does kind of reduce the effect when the original post remains in tact and about one space above the "editted" post and is clearly meant as a joke. Now if Moderators edit an original post and you can't see that its happened that is wrong. 150339[/snapback] Whats this all about then ? http://www.toontastic.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=6536 150347[/snapback] Thats what i said. If they edit an original post which you can't tell has been editted thats wrong. What people on here have done is quote a post and change it for a joke which is made clear by the fact the original post remains in tact as it was written for all to see. 150355[/snapback] Thanks for the no ans LM. Again why are they debating ferociously about this topic in the house if as you say it is just so much common sense to increase police powers etc.....? 150358[/snapback] eerr....because people more concerned about the terrorists "rights" than the victims happen to have got into government perhaps ??? 150362[/snapback] "eerr....because people more concerned about the terrorists "rights" than the victims happen to have got into government perhaps ???" No it is because they are concerned about how new radical legislation will also affect the privacy of you and me. Do you actually beleive MP's walk in to the commons fussed about terrorists rights?

surely people who want a debate, don't edit people's posts though ? 150326[/snapback] THEY AREN'T EDITING YOUR POSTS YOU CRAZY OLD MAN. 150328[/snapback] Of course he has you daft shite. I'm 51. The same as Glenn Roeder. And look as young as he does. OK. Now, Rob is old 150334[/snapback] Resorting to insults, it's true what the say about old people having worse manners. They're not editing your posts, they're deliberately misquoting you for comedic effect. There's a difference. 150337[/snapback] It does kind of reduce the effect when the original post remains in tact and about one space above the "editted" post and is clearly meant as a joke. Now if Moderators edit an original post and you can't see that its happened that is wrong. 150339[/snapback] Whats this all about then ? http://www.toontastic.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=6536 150347[/snapback] Thats what i said. If they edit an original post which you can't tell has been editted thats wrong. What people on here have done is quote a post and change it for a joke which is made clear by the fact the original post remains in tact as it was written for all to see. 150355[/snapback] Thanks for the no ans LM. Again why are they debating ferociously about this topic in the house if as you say it is just so much common sense to increase police powers etc.....?

surely people who want a debate, don't edit people's posts though ? 150326[/snapback] THEY AREN'T EDITING YOUR POSTS YOU CRAZY OLD MAN. 150328[/snapback] Of course he has you daft shite. I'm 51. The same as Glenn Roeder. And look as young as he does. OK. Now, Rob is old 150334[/snapback] Resorting to insults, it's true what the say about old people having worse manners. They're not editing your posts, they're deliberately misquoting you for comedic effect. There's a difference. 150337[/snapback] It does kind of reduce the effect when the original post remains in tact and about one space above the "editted" post and is clearly meant as a joke. Now if Moderators edit an original post and you can't see that its happened that is wrong. 150339[/snapback] Whats this all about then ? http://www.toontastic.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=6536 150347[/snapback] LM did you see my question? 150349[/snapback] even if he had he wouldnt have answered it Factodiddlyumptioulsy 150350[/snapback] Aye.

surely people who want a debate, don't edit people's posts though ? 150326[/snapback] THEY AREN'T EDITING YOUR POSTS YOU CRAZY OLD MAN. 150328[/snapback] Of course he has you daft shite. I'm 51. The same as Glenn Roeder. And look as young as he does. OK. Now, Rob is old 150334[/snapback] Resorting to insults, it's true what the say about old people having worse manners. They're not editing your posts, they're deliberately misquoting you for comedic effect. There's a difference. 150337[/snapback] It does kind of reduce the effect when the original post remains in tact and about one space above the "editted" post and is clearly meant as a joke. Now if Moderators edit an original post and you can't see that its happened that is wrong. 150339[/snapback] Whats this all about then ? http://www.toontastic.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=6536 150347[/snapback] LM did you see my question?

Blimey Radgina, where did you make that up !!! You have to admit though, that whats the point of the admin saying they run a sensible and adult message board, when they allow themselves and/or their own mods to edit people's posts ? See the thread by ratboy, as well as this one. 150335[/snapback] Ok I'll keep the questions simple. LM we don't know each other and I have a strange respect for the fight you are putting up here. Let's me and you keep it simple. Why don't the Govt just do as you are suggesting and why do they have long time and money wasting debates about increasing police powers and making changes to the law? Why do you think that is? Tell me?

Please don't lock it, its an endless source of information.......and belly laughs..

Of couirse, but changing somones posts, when they insist they have the better argument, is surely the act of a loser and a wanker to boot What a prick. And not the sort of thing to uphold the standing of an "intelligent" board of people who want to debate.. I would expect the irony of it will be lost on the arsehole. 150302[/snapback] So just fuckin rise above it then, how old are you supposed to be for God's sake, let the people play it's their board too.. 150305[/snapback] Oh I have. I won't stoop to his level. Just know that he's shown himself to be a total prick. 150307[/snapback] Is this the craic like?

Well I followed that link and read through to page 8, what I found read slightly different to that. Renton comes on and says "HTL advocated x,y and executing children iirc", 3 pages later HTL comes on and questions it where Renton replies with "I honestly thought you were amongst those advocating stringing up the Bulger killers who were children at the time, if Im wrong then sorry for any offence" Followed by HTL completely ignoring this and stating "from your posts I reckon your a paedophile" If you're going to use links as proof in arguments then you need to check their validity to your argument. That link clearly shows Renton have a valid query re HTL and child executions, HTL ignores it and abuses Renton with the paedo shite. 150194[/snapback] What's also relevant I feel is that I admitted winding HTL up and over-reacting to the comment, although that doesn't excuse it imo. The upshot was, I apologised, he apologised, and the thread was history, until LM started to shit stir. I don't think HTL even lurks on here anymore, but if he does, I'd just like to re-iterate that I have nothing against him and, for me at least, those comments are history. It's inevitable that some insults are going to get thrown when people have very srtongly opposing viewpoints, but at least HTL had the ability to read and actually comprehend what other people were saying, and didn't constantly invent stuff they have supposedly said. Which is more than be said for Leazes; this being a case in point. 150203[/snapback] I am not shit stirring anything. You are a hypocrite. You started insulting HTL, and myself in this thread. I didn't invent anything, you made your own remarks of your own accord. At the end of the day, you may have "medical qualifications", but they don't necessarily mean you know what you are talking about when you talk about matters concering the defence and security of the country. 150209[/snapback] More incursions of our civil liberites and more power to the police won't stop terrorism just look at Israel, which is practically a police state with checkpoints evey 10 yards. It hasn't managed to stop anything. LM your vitriol, ignorance and faux jingoism on the subject is truly misdirected and unpleasant to read. Another who wants to avoid the more complex core issues at hand and is intenet on waving that lazy flag. 150214[/snapback] I'm talking about strategies and not the history of Israel. Reading issues?

Well I followed that link and read through to page 8, what I found read slightly different to that. Renton comes on and says "HTL advocated x,y and executing children iirc", 3 pages later HTL comes on and questions it where Renton replies with "I honestly thought you were amongst those advocating stringing up the Bulger killers who were children at the time, if Im wrong then sorry for any offence" Followed by HTL completely ignoring this and stating "from your posts I reckon your a paedophile" If you're going to use links as proof in arguments then you need to check their validity to your argument. That link clearly shows Renton have a valid query re HTL and child executions, HTL ignores it and abuses Renton with the paedo shite. 150194[/snapback] What's also relevant I feel is that I admitted winding HTL up and over-reacting to the comment, although that doesn't excuse it imo. The upshot was, I apologised, he apologised, and the thread was history, until LM started to shit stir. I don't think HTL even lurks on here anymore, but if he does, I'd just like to re-iterate that I have nothing against him and, for me at least, those comments are history. It's inevitable that some insults are going to get thrown when people have very srtongly opposing viewpoints, but at least HTL had the ability to read and actually comprehend what other people were saying, and didn't constantly invent stuff they have supposedly said. Which is more than be said for Leazes; this being a case in point. 150203[/snapback] I am not shit stirring anything. You are a hypocrite. You started insulting HTL, and myself in this thread. I didn't invent anything, you made your own remarks of your own accord. At the end of the day, you may have "medical qualifications", but they don't necessarily mean you know what you are talking about when you talk about matters concering the defence and security of the country. 150209[/snapback] More incursions of our civil liberites and more power to the police won't stop terrorism just look at Israel, which is practically a police state with checkpoints evey 10 yards. It hasn't managed to stop anything. LM your vitriol, ignorance and faux jingoism on the subject is truly misdirected and unpleasant to read. Another who wants to avoid the more complex core issues at hand and is intenet on waving that lazy flag.

No its a conspiracy I tell thee...

That's typical of you General Gemmill.

Aye Aye.

Agreed. He had to go though.

Leazes loves children. 149922[/snapback] "We all start equal, everyone in this country has freedom. We allow people who wish to live in this country freedom, and even stupidly allow those who threaten us freedom, it is only themselves who throw away that right. No one else." LM First bit...NO we don't. 2nd bit.....Yes I agree the police have too much freedom and abuse it. 3rd bit....Right again Blair and George Butch should be behind bars for lying and killing their own citizens for the benefit of oil companies.

He is right of course. But its a long winded dig at David Dein. JM has also made some pertinent comments about the CL and refs, which I dismissed till the Italian scandal broke and made me rethink.

Exactly. I hope Eriksson feels the same about his first-choice striking partnership. It will be a travesty if he starts with Rooney and Crouch and leaves Owen on the bench. Crouch may have scored yesterday, but I still think he's some way from being good enough at this level. 149766[/snapback] I can see him starting with Rooney and Crouch and then taking Rooney off after an hour and sending Owen on for some more long-ball-tainment. 149767[/snapback] I don't know why the Swede insists on torturing little Mikey.

Just thoughts on a screen sweetie. I didn't notice I'd done 2 in row.

Without Messi we could probably beat them. But with Messi and Tevez its ganna be tough like. Serbs are cack though tbh. Not a result to go by. 149722[/snapback] Without their subs? 149741[/snapback] They aren't the subs. Messi didn't start cause he's coming back from injury and Tevez has a problem with Crespo. Messi and Tevez are light years ahead of Maxi and Saviola. 149743[/snapback] With the Argies the defence doesn't 're-group' very well and there are question marks against Burdisso. Soldo is nearly always forward and a little slow coming back which can be exploited by a Lennon type (if the bugger could cross). The oft repeated pattern of Riquelme drifting in from the left looking for the second phase pass is soemthing the 'big' sides with deal with...And Ricky is quite lazy at times. A lot of their fluidity comes from Crespo's availability and late running....Tevez Messi and Crispy together firing on all cylinders is a big package to deal with...Bu it can be. I am hoping this WC is a little too early for Tevez, but the next WC they will have Aguerro who is every bit as good as Messi. You can take a bet now that Arg will win the next WC.

Without Messi we could probably beat them. But with Messi and Tevez its ganna be tough like. Serbs are cack though tbh. Not a result to go by. 149722[/snapback] Without their subs? 149741[/snapback] They aren't the subs. Messi didn't start cause he's coming back from injury and Tevez has a problem with Crespo. Messi and Tevez are light years ahead of Maxi and Saviola.