Park Life

HP will be along in a minute saying they had tough childhoods and such... (safety wink).

I can't remember what the motivation for the killings was...What was the background?

Has anyone actually seen the last few days? Pages of posts about something no-one's actually watched in context. I've only seen a few clips.

show me a quote where I said that mong boy pricta? more excellent craic from TT's resident comedienne "Toontastic twats not welcome" tbh. Can't be arsed to look for something about you wanting N-O back online. Apologies if you didn't say something along those lines. The point remains about your craic however. apology accepted you fucking twat I wouldn't mess with Al all things considered Victor.

I remember now why I stopped watching telly.

We're all equal tbh. You racist bigot! She is a better human being in many ways IMO. Nowt to with their respective races. Steady on fella.

You really believe they don't realise their comments are hurtful. You can't be ignorant these days about race...."Oh I didn't realise you were a Paki mate...You look Spanish".... I agree with HP to an extent this isn't out and out racism, but soft racism cause they can't internalise their emotive response to the situation and some of Shipla's behaviour. IGNORANCE is no longer a defence in 2007. The fuckwits are even sadder cause they are revealing on national television their bonding rituals that go on every week down the local.

That's your opinion. I'm of the opinion that they act this way because they think Shilpa believes she's better than them. To be fair though, Shilpa has taken the piss out of Jades accent too, maybe not to the same extent and she didn't have anyone else joining in, but it was done nonetheless. As for the "eating with their hands", Jo didn't like the way Shilpa touches the food on other peoples plates which is a fair point imo. No they act like that cause thier life experience has taught them they can get away with it. If it wasn't he fingers or the chicken it would be something else. As I say this is dispalcement aggression, but IMO the core motivation is race/culture. She IS BETTER than them and they know it.

Sunita Sharma was in the house with Jade in BB3. Jade had no problem with her and they got on well. TBH That is partly my point. Probably not so easy to victimise. Jade is scum and hides behing this vaguely well meaning ', slightly 'look I'm just confused and harmless veil - always acting out' never internalising veil. I don't fall for it. To Jermaine..."Are you black?" "Do your bleach your teeth"? Look at the mother ffs!! That is Jade in 20 years. She finds her embarrasing cause she see's herself.

Talk about stereotyping. Aaaghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!11111

well ask her what she thinks about the Horizon thing about global dimming I did at the time I think and posted what she said in the thread on N-O, can't remember what she said though, think it was along the lines of it's effect not being strong enough to counteract global warming anyway. Also, there's much more to climate change than simply global warming, which isn't affected by global dimming at all. I'll have a hunt through N-O and if I can find the post I'll copy it on here for you. Don't really want to ask her again because she's my brother's ex and they only split up recently. doesn't sound right, as it's not counteracting warming, it's making it less of an effect, i.e if global dimming were not happening, global warming would be worse Same difference. Anyway, were we talking about that in the "Hawking says we need another planet" thread or what? Can't remember which one it was. One I started.

You'd be too busy playing with your (her) tits. .........there would still be time for some 'taking down'. Hopefully.

Maybe next time put a 'savvy British Asian' in from East London and see how this kind of scum deal with it.

Couldn't have said it better myself. There are hundreds of thousands like Jade out there in Britain do they all have this bad background 'get out of jail' defence?? No excuse. Let the culling begin. Teddy Sheringham's bird apparently wanted for nothing when she was growing up. I think she should be far more ashamed than Jade since she seems to have had the opportunity and support to get an education but was more interested in shoes. For whatever reason though, she's just as ignorant due to a lack of education. I don't think it is just education but agree that is a factor. I think 'people' know what they are doing and they 'know' how they should behave, but choose to for whatever reason to carry on like these three. The race thing is difficult because sometimes it isn't a conscious choice, but often a generalised aggression and they can't admit to themselves that they 'just don't like people of a different colour or culture. In effect they aren't self-actualised enough to understand their own motivations (perhaps distracted as you say by shoes). But in 2007 I really don't have time for this. The SHOULD know better. So in 2007 you're not allowed to dislike someone of colour because if you do you're racist? I'm not advocating the way they appear to be ganging up on Shilpa, but I don't believe that Jade as acting the way she is because of the colour of Shilpas skin. She genuinely doesn't like the woman. Had she carried on against Jo like that then no-one would have said a word, but because it's against someone of colour then she's a racist? That lass who chucked water in the old wifey's face last year was exactly the same as these 3. Intimidated by someone with better intelligence, class and looks. They're overcompensating for their own inadequacies. Notice Kenny Everet's bird hasn't been involved. She's far too self assured. Nowt whatsoever to do with race. Partly agree it's not wholly race and driven also by the factors you mention. It is still ugly and embarrassing and when I see it I mentally reach for the cold assurance of the Glock automatic. I would love to inhanit Shilpa's body for one day in that house. I would take those bitches down and no mistake.

Couldn't have said it better myself. There are hundreds of thousands like Jade out there in Britain do they all have this bad background 'get out of jail' defence?? No excuse. Let the culling begin. Teddy Sheringham's bird apparently wanted for nothing when she was growing up. I think she should be far more ashamed than Jade since she seems to have had the opportunity and support to get an education but was more interested in shoes. For whatever reason though, she's just as ignorant due to a lack of education. I don't think it is just education but agree that is a factor. I think 'people' know what they are doing and they 'know' how they should behave, but choose to for whatever reason to carry on like these three. The race thing is difficult because sometimes it isn't a conscious choice, but often a generalised aggression and they can't admit to themselves that they 'just don't like people of a different colour or culture. In effect they aren't self-actualised enough to understand their own motivations (perhaps distracted as you say by shoes). But in 2007 I really don't have time for this. The SHOULD know better. So in 2007 you're not allowed to dislike someone of colour because if you do you're racist? I'm not advocating the way they appear to be ganging up on Shilpa, but I don't believe that Jade as acting the way she is because of the colour of Shilpas skin. She genuinely doesn't like the woman. Had she carried on against Jo like that then no-one would have said a word, but because it's against someone of colour then she's a racist? I wouldn't pick out Jade, but all three have shown excessive, irrational and snidey behaviour against Shilpa partly because she is Indian and brown. Of course you can dislike black people but it shouldn't be primarily cause they are black or from a different culture. Shilpa irritates me, but I realise she is a Bollywood film star and used to the life of riley and is going to have the concurrent character defects...I don't sneak off with me mates in the pub and mimick 'Paki' accents and go on about "them eating with their hands"...."I don't know where their hands have been"..type of covert racism. Make no mistake that is what it is and if Ch4 can scrath the surface further and put some more pressure...One of these three bitches will crack...And then we will see 'IT'.

I could say the same about Shilpa's chicken effort. We're all thick when it comes to something. It isn't about being 'thick' anymore, infact a lot of so called 'thick people' have honed an act that they think absolves them of a degree of responsability. The chicken is a red herring.

Couldn't have said it better myself. There are hundreds of thousands like Jade out there in Britain do they all have this bad background 'get out of jail' defence?? No excuse. Let the culling begin. Teddy Sheringham's bird apparently wanted for nothing when she was growing up. I think she should be far more ashamed than Jade since she seems to have had the opportunity and support to get an education but was more interested in shoes. For whatever reason though, she's just as ignorant due to a lack of education. I don't think it is just education but agree that is a factor. I think 'people' know what they are doing and they 'know' how they should behave, but choose to for whatever reason to carry on like these three. The race thing is difficult because sometimes it isn't a conscious choice, but often a generalised aggression and they can't admit to themselves that they 'just don't like people of a different colour or culture. In effect they aren't self-actualised enough to understand their own motivations (perhaps distracted as you say by shoes). But in 2007 I really don't have time for this. The SHOULD know better. ....I'd just like to add that the world is past the tipping point regarding this kind of stuff...Nowadays shit happens...The talking is over. Sad but true, these days people who are racist end up at some point getting their just desserts and this in turn perpetuates this dangerous and tragic cycle.

Couldn't have said it better myself. There are hundreds of thousands like Jade out there in Britain do they all have this bad background 'get out of jail' defence?? No excuse. Let the culling begin. Teddy Sheringham's bird apparently wanted for nothing when she was growing up. I think she should be far more ashamed than Jade since she seems to have had the opportunity and support to get an education but was more interested in shoes. For whatever reason though, she's just as ignorant due to a lack of education. I don't think it is just education but agree that is a factor. I think 'people' know what they are doing and they 'know' how they should behave, but choose to for whatever reason to carry on like these three. The race thing is difficult because sometimes it isn't a conscious choice, but often a generalised aggression and they can't admit to themselves that they 'just don't like people of a different colour or culture. In effect they aren't self-actualised enough to understand their own motivations (perhaps distracted as you say by shoes). But in 2007 I really don't have time for this. The SHOULD know better.

Couldn't have said it better myself. There are hundreds of thousands like Jade out there in Britain do they all have this bad background 'get out of jail' defence?? No excuse. Let the culling begin.

Got about 40 pages to go so I'll probably finish it tonight. Really enjoying it, cheers. Any time! Finished it, excellent. Just started 'Delta of Venus'. Didn't realise it was that erotic like (it is a Penguin Classic I'll have you know). Good though YOu been to Verlaine's website Al? One excellent (tongue in cheek) electro pop mix on there of one of his songs. Not recently. Might have a look later though. He sings it in a very camp German.

Which no doubt stems from them agreeing over ID cards. Even I agreed with Vic on that one tttt No I'm just a big tart. Fyp Can't really argue that.

Leme aks you this, how does watching BB mean I'm to blame for Jade Goody being a millionaire? I've seen most of the series and it didn't make anyone else a millionaire. It was more the book deal wasn't it.

You're talking bollocks. Care to elaborate? It's very clearly displaced and underlying racism (the irrational fear/dislike of someone because they are different, but vocalised as non-specific aggression). The conversations about "Do they eat with their hands"..Going on about Shilpa's accent and even mocking it (playing out/verbalising) to each other. The general tone of how Shilpa has been dealt with by the three other young girls with an air of scrutiny and overt criticism of every little mistake she makes. The whispering in her presence etc.. It is clearly playing out as a textbook case of the 'fear of the other' and I suspect large measures of jealousy as Shilpa is actually very famous 'and liked' in India, where as these three trashy little madams probably know that people see through them and that their fame/being liked is going to be very temporary. That's my take on it anyway. But I have a strong feeling that CH4 has engineered this knowingly. Just to add I'm not saying they are evil or anything.

Got about 40 pages to go so I'll probably finish it tonight. Really enjoying it, cheers. Any time! Finished it, excellent. Just started 'Delta of Venus'. Didn't realise it was that erotic like (it is a Penguin Classic I'll have you know). Good though YOu been to Verlaine's website Al? One excellent (tongue in cheek) electro pop mix on there of one of his songs.