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The cameras that point up at the sky? Have you read this thread? I went over this with Parky... The camera didn't need to be pointing up at the sky, the "plane" hit at ground level. Exactly. Well known that government buildings have CCTV cameras or the like logging the comings and goings in,out,and immediately surrounding the buildings. As I've mentioned elsewhere it smacks of 'something to hide'. Quite alot I'd imagine. The cameras would be covering walkways, doors and ground levels. Not approximately 30 foot of the exterior walls, or pointing up at the sky. Really. A building of that degree of importance to the US government? Christ they'd know if a dog farted within a mile of that building if it was a black or chocolate lab and what kind of kibble it was fed. And what would a camera pointing at the exterior of the upper floors or the sky tell you? What threat would it be looking for? And how would you keep the attention of the officer/s monitoring all the approximately 200 cameras that would require focused? So none of the CCTV of the carparks had any indication of a shaddow of a massive aircraft ? Do you have a working theory of which camera would show a shadow on which car park given the lighting and flight path? or any of the exterior CCTV captured any pictures of debris ?? There's debris all over the place in the pics I've seen. no one with a camera phone thought to take a picture of the massive airplane heading directly to the pentagon ? 2001? Did you have a camera phone? Would that have been your first action if you were there? Are you saying you honestly think that none of the camera's monitoring the Pentagon would have picked up any evidence of an aircraft ?? I've not seen any pictures that catagorically prove that 757 hit that building. OK, camera phone's maybe I'll conceed that one, but the chances of not one person filming an aircraft heading towards the Pentagon are just daft. Well of course there was the security footage confiscated from the petrol station and the Hotel. Pesky cameras probably saw everythig....Better get all the data.

Gets worse Bush's brother part of the security company incharge of WTC.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEJmcvTzYfo...ted&search=

Where is Donnie these days?

There's a hell of a lot of fuel burning outside the tower there EDIT: By the way, Tower 7 was a controlled demolision, because they couldn't contain the fire. Pre-rigged with explosives then? They probably all were, to cover for all eventualities and also to safeguard nearby buildings. But people go on as if this is Alice in Wonderland stuff.

Debt recovery at the moment An extra five grand would take up to 23k. The other job is a postman Always wanted to be one, and its around 18k a year I think postman is a nicer job mate.

....even Donnie can't remember what version of the story he is telling...

....he did keep threads moving though. His ban on NO finishes soon I think....I'll have a look.

Not from what I've heard....... Don't give me that shite. I've met SSH btw. I know you have and I also know various others who have.... Where's the suggestion it's Vic come from? I seriously doubt he'd be able to rein in his personality that much. On here that is, I realise people can be nowt like their online persona in real life I know it isn't Vic silly.

Not from what I've heard....... Don't give me that shite. I've met SSH btw. I know you have and I also know various others who have.... I think he's alright just for the record.

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Not from what I've heard.......

I'm canny sceptical about just about eveything Parky. Not least some of the patter you try and pull (and with some justification). The SSH/Renton comments from you are just sour grapes because they (SSH in particular) absolutely pwned you in this thread imo. I think SSH has been excellent in this thread as it goes. But said nothing I didn't already know. HOw about WT7...No plane hit, tiny fire....Fell down by itself? What do you think happened with it? The initial report was inconclusive, yes? Surely if a conspiracy was at large the official report would have been a whitewash rather than an admittance that further investigation (at great cost to the taxpayers was needed)? I think the neighboring fires were so hot they were melting steel all over the place, half of NY was in danger at one point.......... Manhattan nearly collapsed in on itself and sank without a trace. "We pulled it"

I'm canny sceptical about just about eveything Parky. Not least some of the patter you try and pull (and with some justification). The SSH/Renton comments from you are just sour grapes because they (SSH in particular) absolutely pwned you in this thread imo. I think SSH has been excellent in this thread as it goes. But said nothing I didn't already know. HOw about WT7...No plane hit, tiny fire....Fell down by itself? What do you think happened with it? The initial report was inconclusive, yes? Surely if a conspiracy was at large the official report would have been a whitewash rather than an admittance that further investigation (at great cost to the taxpayers was needed)? I think the neighboring fires were so hot they were melting steel all over the place, half of NY was in danger at one point..........

I didn't vote for Blair. I won't vote Brown/whoever Just what is it that you are doing to oust those in power? Nothing criminal I hope Is that you Vic?

I'm canny sceptical about just about eveything Parky. Not least some of the patter you try and pull (and with some justification). The SSH/Renton comments from you are just sour grapes because they (SSH in particular) absolutely pwned you in this thread imo. I think SSH has been excellent in this thread as it goes. But said nothing I didn't already know. HOw about WT7...No plane hit, tiny fire....Fell down by itself?

Nice one Rob.

Kevin Carr - Doubter Jimbo - Doubter of official story Parky-Looks at official story when in need of a serious laugh. Alex- Tries to bring to bear his logic, but knows full well what nasties Govt are capable of. Chez-Across the board destroyer of the naive Gemmill-Joker SSH/Renton- The people Govt and assorted nasties love as these are the types that keep them in power.

Sweet. *Shit Robs arrived!! Elves etc to follow....

Perhaps because a similar event has never happened? Passenger jets rarely hit buildings, even less so at that trajectory. The Pentagon is possibly unique in its design and construction. Yes but they crash often and always leave a lot of wreckage and bags strewn all over the place. Which crash are you comparing it to then? This is a good site. Note the gouged earth. http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles...anecrashes.html I see this has gone un-answered by the "experts" on here. SSH already did. Anyway, you've got a cheek with "experts", you've backed up absolute nothing you've said in this thread. No doubt you could tell us, but you'd have to kill us. Are you saying a passenger jet would leave a tiny hole like that in the side of the Pentagon and there would be hardly any debris and what happened to the wings? Why won't they release more than 3 secs of footage with what is one of the most security camered up places in the world.....Don't worry I know neither of you can ans any of these. But I won't debunk your opinions for it.

Perhaps because a similar event has never happened? Passenger jets rarely hit buildings, even less so at that trajectory. The Pentagon is possibly unique in its design and construction. Yes but they crash often and always leave a lot of wreckage and bags strewn all over the place. Which crash are you comparing it to then? This is a good site. Note the gouged earth. http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles...anecrashes.html I see this has gone un-answered by the "experts" on here. SSH already did. Anyway, you've got a cheek with "experts", you've backed up absolute nothing you've said in this thread. No doubt you could tell us, but you'd have to kill us. I suppose you and Stevie believed there was WMD in Iraq. .....and thre was nothing wrong with the voting machines in Florida..

Perhaps because a similar event has never happened? Passenger jets rarely hit buildings, even less so at that trajectory. The Pentagon is possibly unique in its design and construction. Yes but they crash often and always leave a lot of wreckage and bags strewn all over the place. Which crash are you comparing it to then? This is a good site. Note the gouged earth. http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles...anecrashes.html I see this has gone un-answered by the "experts" on here.

The many eyewitnesses who saw it happen make it believable enough to me. This isn't so, there were many contradictory eye witness reports inc a small passenger jet and even a military aircraft..Some even described the high pitched whine of a missile. Police will always tell you that under pressure in these split second moments eye witnesses often haven't a clue what they really saw. And how many eye-witness accounts are used to support your questions? Steve it must be so easy for you just laboriously and religiously following the official story....Have a little fun fella.. The thing is though Parky, he's shown in this thread that he knows what he's on about, he's more or less answered your questions while asking you questions you can't answer and he hasn't had to resort to making up an anecdote about meeting someone 'in the know' yet either. He's just regurgitated the official story. And he hasn't answered many of my (and others questions). Ie A fire near the top of a building and how this would collapse the steel in the bottom of the building....Even in the official report (some of which I've read and I doubt you or Stevie have) this is gossed over with phrases about conductive heat energy and transferance....All cobblers you undrstand. WHY NO INDEPENDANT INQUIRY?? .......I'm not talking about 'good old boy' senators and friends of the Bush family either... I really think its hilarious that people beleive this whole story as it has been portrayed....So full of holes it is. Whereas merely alluding to esoteric knowledge about what really went on means either you know what happened and can't divulge the information or you're making it up. Which scenario is the more likely though? I don't have to prove anything actually.....Just laughing at the official story...

The many eyewitnesses who saw it happen make it believable enough to me. This isn't so, there were many contradictory eye witness reports inc a small passenger jet and even a military aircraft..Some even described the high pitched whine of a missile. Police will always tell you that under pressure in these split second moments eye witnesses often haven't a clue what they really saw. And how many eye-witness accounts are used to support your questions? Steve it must be so easy for you just laboriously and religiously following the official story....Have a little fun fella.. Not at all. It is quite easy however to point out that theorists will put different weight on the same evidence, i.e. eye-witness accounts, dependant on whether they support their questions or not Agreed. Some say 'planes' didn't even hit the towers...