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They don't give a fuck about the PL. I can see all the issues regarding a breakaway league believe me. But once the money (tv, mastercard, toyota etc) is in place...It will happen. Italian clubs organise their own tv money already iirc. I totally disagree. Most clubs have already realised that an European league won't work for a foreseeable future as it can't create the same (financial) attraction as the national leagues. Look at attendances, but also atthe revenue created especially by TV money in both the domestic leagues and the European competition. The Championsleague is a nice bonus as it is now (as it helps to widen the gap to other domestic teams), but wouldn't work as a breakaway league on its own. Trickle down is a nice idea but when big business and branding gets hold of something it normally ends up as summat totally different. But if you and others are holding faith in the average football supporter don't hold your breath. For me the structure now is about right.....But for clubs who want to keep all the money and be in a league it is almost impossible to get relegated out of that is another thing and as more big money comes into football it will unfortunately be a business descision on many levels sadly. How many shirts do Man U or Barca sell abroad or internationally compared to their core support....? But I agree it would be a quantum leap but don't doubt dark minds in air conditioned offices aren't looking at the get go.

I honestly believe that any such league would only be successful in the short term, soon fans will grow weary of it and return to a football product they feel they have some degree of investment in(both monetarily and emotionally). Tribal?

They don't give a fuck about the PL. I can see all the issues regarding a breakaway league believe me. But once the money (tv, mastercard, toyota etc) is in place...It will happen. Italian clubs organise their own tv money already iirc. Slowly football is being pulled away from its roots....The tipping point has already happenned where more money comes from media and perhaps overseas interest rather than the core game going support.

2. Umbro 3. The Italian player with the long hair...Milan one...

Same for everybody though and like someone has already alluded to, we weren't complaining when we got in, were we?? It's what happens over 38 games, not just the start of the season too... Agree with what Isegrim has said - whilst the European Cup should be the champions playing oen another, the countries aren't equal on performance and it becomes terribly dull. The other extreme is a breakaway league but that would simply end up alienating those of us left and a Premiership title would be seriously under-valued if Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool & Man Utd aren't involved. They've got it about right. Liverpool succeed because they're well suited to European football and not so in the Premiership. I remember making that observation back in 2004 when Benitez hadn't been in charge long. I think Liverpool seem to rise to an occassion better than others and that is why I think they beat Chelsea in the two semis and Arsenal last night. I have a feeling it's going to be a Liverpool v Barca final - dunno why but I just have that feeling that Man Utd are feeling too cocky and are gonna end up with egg on their faces. There will be a breakaway league. When and how who knows....They will incorporate some kind of linkage to the national leagues for sure. Just as business became extra (outside of) national so will will football at the highest level. The fact that we already see signs that the best part of the PL is finding it hard to compete with the summit so it will be a progression.

Wouldn't it concern you that Rico, Leazes and Stevie could also have guns too? Depends if they've been practicing.

The kind of background idea has been to broaden the lucrativity of the competition to a wider tier and in some senses encourage the feeling of what ultimately could be a breakaway league. UCL is trying to protect itself by being inclusive to say a top four and keep them tied to Uefa and not be tempted away to another breakaway league...If that makes sense.

A view that has nothing to do with your scouse girlfriend of course Like I said, I couldn't care who'd won it all i was interested in seeing was a good game of football which is what we got... No-one enjoys winding her up more than me so your theory is counter-productive. To be fair though, who the fuck wants to have to listen to that lot crow about winning it again. if it was between us and them - fair enough, i'd want us to win obviously... but as we're not in it i don't care who wins so long as it's a decent game. THAT tonight was a classic cup match and anyone who says otherwise has an agenda. If Liverpool won on playing the better football then I'd say fair enough even though I can't stand the turds. But once again dodgy decisions have gone their way. Three times against Arsenal, two blatant pens for the Arse turned down, one 50/50 for Pool is given. Boils my piss. But hey, at least Craig will get some tonight so it's all good! They do get an awful lot of descisions for sure.

Jealousy?

Fuck off Methodical, slow, too many wristbands etc...

Beautiful run, moment of the game by a mile.

What's wrong with it Sloopie? i think that counter-argument summed up quite nicely. what I find particuarly shallow about all of Tarantino's work is how he lies to the audience by portraying violence as entertainment. it's absurd and shallow, and even though it's usually in a hyper-stylised way, he is portraying acts, that in reality have unfathomable emotional resonance, as something to find glee over. Can't stand the cunt.

Done.

What's wrong with it Sloopie?

That pen tonight was sickening.

Whether it needed confirming or not tonight but the space Senderos gave Torres for the turn and shot was criminal...Senderos should be nowhere near the Arsenal first team. Utter total fucking cunt.

Sooner them win it than the fucking scousers though. I couldn't bear to have to listen to "We won it 6 times" for the next 3 years. You know it's bad when Man U are the lesser of two evils. It's bad and not the good bad but the bad bad. Fucking Benitez waving his arms...None of his players are even looking at him...CUNT.

Toure has been shit since the ACN. Stupid fucking cunt!

Of course if they go out it won't they their fault but some refereeing or other conspiracy. The worlds against them you know.

Crisis No.78 for Benitez and Roman coming to his senses regarding Avram 'Goldberg' Grant.

Not sure why people are so bothered he was pro-gun. If I lived there I'd be pro-gun, no way I'd live there without a gun.

Of that lot I'd only take Boussoufa Mustafa Hagi. Henry has a really bad back I thought??

You were gutted about that man It was canny funny to see the way you were both going on like. I think he tried a bit too hard fwiw. I did win another award tho.

You were gutted about that man

Yeah Kev we got it now.