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I think it's fair enough to be honest like. Season ticket holders should take precedence over "stay aways". In 1991/1992, we were staring relegation in the face, and I barely missed a game home or away, but that's in that past, and so is your away record if you dont have a season card. Ahh but PaddockLad hasnt said hes not getting one, hes merely cancelled the 3 years deal, which I think is fair enough.

Anyone else play it? Fairly decent free online first person, Im not very good at it though http://crossfire.subagames.com/index.aspx?from=&subid=

Is that all the useful, influential people you can call on when you need that one big favour...like a job? Have you thought about going back to flogging conservatories to 90 year olds that live in high rises? Seriously though, I hope you and everyone else in this thread get sorted soon................you're bringing down the level of the board

Anyone know where Portsmouth are staying on Sunday night? Malmaison? also anyone know if they are training at Gateshead like Man U did?

It was never part of the deal as far as I was aware, at least not if we're talking about the "pay three years and get it at a cheaper price than everyone else....get fuck all in the way of any incentive" scheme that they ran before last seasons renewals.

Quote from Mick Martin tonight, when he asked Al about next season he got a simple straight answer of "I dont want it".

If anyones in the area there a NUSC roadshow on with Mick Martin (ex Toon not True Faith :lol) at Forest Hall Club. I'll even let you buy me a pint

Caulkin and Bird have been to most, if not all of the public meetings and spoke at them too.

Was me that started all that bollocks. First time it was done on N/O and copied en masse, another Stevie innovation what was?

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Im confused now, thought we were talking about Ashley

Trouble with the daft shite, is I reminded the poor dear how wrong he had been about his belief that anybody but Shepherd would be better for the club and wouldn't embarrass him anymore, and he can't believe a smart lad like himself got it so wrong. Probably an inappropriate smiley but what the fuck, I've seen 2 relegations and this will be the 3rd time. Im sure though that Mancy would be happy to admit that, I know I do. I once said to you something along the lines of "I'll take my chances with the new bloke, its highly unlikely he'll be worse" Yep, nostrafookindamus there.

What you wearing? Farahs, comfy as fook

I love these threads

Every year we will be the ... Most profitable club in Premier League 2008/09 Most profitable club in Championship 2009/10 Most profitable club in 1st Division 2010/11 . . . . Biggest club in history of Unibond 2020? At this rate his wish of getting the wage bill down will happen, we'll have players on Minimum wage by 2021.

Has he not been sectioned yet?

I hoped that for Chelsea yet it was no different, if the new messiah cant get it to happen on his return then I cant imagine what will. Til the end though we should continue trying.

If 30,000 sang it then maybe I wouldnt find it so cringeworthy however as songs and chants go its probably the lowest common denominator. What I would find inspiring and uplifiting for both the fans and more importantly the players would be 30k singing Blaydon Races in unison (rather than the 3 or 4 different chunks of the ground that we have doing it now and out of synch, this is something thats probably a fault of the stadium design rather than the fans tbh). I would feel that lift in my heart like I used to if we all burst into "Geordie Ranger" or "Drink Drink" or even "N and an E and a Wubble U C" once in a while.

Do you think an ageing match going support has anything to do with it, pud? Or a higher proportion of Range Rover driving mitten wearing types? I dont personally think its down to any one type of fans, I would have thought that our fanbase profile is no different to any other clubs. I do believe its purely down to how we have been conditioned over the years. When Stevie talks about the Sky fans of '93 hes right but it shouldnt be a derogatory term. Sky brought football back to the general populus. It made it mainstream and a good place to be. The fact we were up there with the best of them in the following seasons just helped build our fanbase. These arent glory hunters or fair weather fans they are people who liked what they saw and stuck with us with the thinner years that followed. Trouble was that these fans and those that were too young to be around in the pre Premier League days didnt know any different, they only knew the entertainers and pushing for the league, Europe qualification and stuffings of Man U, Spurs (yes Danny, the great Spuds were well and truly stuffed) et al. Now that times are hard and we are needed, fans dont know how to behave, the only songs they know are "We're gonna win the League", "Walking in a Keegan/ Robson wonderland" etc. All songs that cant be sung when you are where we are. Where is the gallows humour? what happened to the songs of pride and passion? songs that make you proud to sing along and get involved. Where did they go? Where are the men who used to stand on a barrier in the Gallowgate and face the wrong way for 90 minutes just so they could gee up the crowd to sing? They havent gone anywhere, its just they know that either they will be ignored or told to sit down and shut up. They cant sing the old songs because its so long now since they have been that nobody knows the words. The only songs sung are Blaydon Races and "Toon Toon", the latter being one that I personally think is cringeworthy.

I couldnt give a fuck what the reasons are behind their support being louder, more passionate and more of an asset to their team than ours, the simple fact of life is that they have been. I think Stoke fans are wank (© Stevie) they have that horrible small club mentality of "lets fuck the big boys" but at the end of the day they achieve what they set out to do and thats intimidate the away team and galvanise their own. The day we as supporters can do that again then I'll be happy but I see it as never happening until we're back up there fighting for the Champions League spots. We as supporters do not seem to have the fight and passion for this scrap. Never have the words "you only sing when you're winning" been so apt as they are for us. Back in the mid 90s SJP was the place to be, the ground that everyone feared to come to. A wall of noise, intimidating atmosphere and solid behind the team support. Nowadays its quiet moaning and mutterings about how shite things are. Thats not down to "wank" fans or glory hunters that appeared in 93. After all they will have been the very same glory hunters that made the wall of noise in 96. No, its down to the shit we've been served up over the past few years, the constant stream of new managers each one shitter than the one before. The lies, the mistrust and the baffling on and off field decisions. We've lost our priorities as fans, yes we want to be entertained and yes we want to see us winning but if we're not then we should be doing our bit to help it along. The first part of that process is the realisation that we are not the best fans in the world, far from it. Yes, we are loyal and yes we are passionate but are we the best fans? are we fuck. The sooner we all realise that then the sooner we can start to do something about it.

coooooooool, cheers for the link...downloading it now

One is a national stadium funded by the Government and the other is a football club owned and ran by the supporters. Id say the latter have done a pretty good job of it tbh.

sometimes I wonder how much sense these papers have. Since when does a manager get to decide his boss? especially when that manager has only 6 games left in charge.

No they don't. They are like Portsmouth who are similarly wank fans. Go to Fratton Park now the atmosphere is dead, the realisation has set in they're not really a Premiership club, and like Stoke they will soon be where they belong. Stoke are still in first season syndrome. When we came up I'm sorry like but the atmosphere at St James' would rival anywhere in the world, Stoke are essentially on a one season jolly up, their crowds have almost trebled, give them three years in the Premiership and the atmosphere there will be wank. When Sunderland came up in 1999 the atmosphere at the SOS, far exceeded that of the Britannia, Barnsley made Oakwell intimidating, and the likes of Wolves have done exactly the same. It always amazes me that people fall in to the trap of praising the supports of promoted clubs, and Stoke in particular. Stoke City as a club and as a support in my view are some of the biggest tossers this league has ever known in my time watching football, they are shit fans on their one season jolly up, I have no respect for them and as I said they are no different from any other club that's been promoted. As for us, being a resident of Newcastle I think we are a special club, we are unique and I would argue that point with anywhere and to be fair anyone that's ever played here will tell you really have to live here to understand how unique. Sir Les and Mick Quinn seems to say it every week. And what was their excuse for the game the season before? the worst FA cup 3rd round game ever? Their support then was spot on even though it was a freezing Sunday in January and on telly. Admittedly, they were scum, horrible kids spoiling for a fight but they made enough noise.

as is SMOs cock