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All joking aside, I dont think these appear to be the people to take us forward quickly.

I'm not weighing behind their bid or anything like that, i just disagree that a conglomerate of 15 business divisions, with retail brands in each division markets themselves like that. It goes against every rule of channel marketing. I'm only going on my experience of working in and with marketing, not because i have a view on this lot in paticular. The first question has to be 'why'. In the bit i've highlighted you talk about looking to expand their portfolio, so why use a generic umbrella of the investment group when they sell actual brands. If they are not looking to sell their consumer brands but actually get into football ownership, it doesnt make a lot of sense to say their PR over 'getting into football ownership' is just PR, since thats the whole objective. Or are you saying this is to raise their profile as agents of footballers? Again, i'd say PR associated with handling players would be more effective. i'm not convinced either way, just highlighting things that seem illogical to me. Because this is free advertising? because they are a company that deal in this kind of thing and therefore probably need to be seen to be bidding even if they're not. Even if they are interested in buying a football club in Britain but not us, going down the route of announcing that they are serious here will raise their profile for when they do actually bid for some other club. As a global brand overall they want to raise their name and this is a cheap way to do it. Publicity is publicity, I wont ever understand the advertising world, for instance what do BASF get from their adverts on TV? its not even a product, in fact the only product anyone can name of theirs is tapes and nobody uses them anymore yet they spend a fortune showing some fucker climbing a mountain and dont even give us a product to buy? Surely they'd be better advertising in "chemical buyers weekly" or some other related way? http://www.tellyads.com/show_movie.php?filename=TA6380

at the end of the day, what do Profitable get out of pretending they are bidding for a football club if its not publicity? They cant be serious otherwise they wouldnt be breaking the confidentiality clauses that are in place. Even if they were, theres nothing to be gained from going public other than publicity itself. I disagree with your logic though, the Profitable group is looking for publicity, just take a look at their website. http://www.profitablegroup.com/ It starts with a full page advert for Liverpool FC going to Singapore in something they (Profitable) have organised. Why? for publicity, not to get the Liverpool players to sign agreements on management contracts but to promote the Profitable brand. Another look at the news section on the site and you see a number of stories related to UK housing and land deals. Like it or not, people, be they individuals or owners of large corporate businesses are still swayed initially by whether they've heard of a company. Bad example I know but its been used half a dozen times on the TV program Hustle, all you have to do is get the person to see the name of your company a few times or read it in an article in your favourite paper and suddenly you know the name, you know the company and already that first hurdle is over. If they're looking to expand their portfolio in Britain then the first thing they've got to do is get some publicity out there because before the Toon rumours the only thing you could find related to Profitable Group in the UK was details of shady deals involving land. Those stories are now buried under a mountain of google results saying "Steve McMahon this and Profitable toon that". "The profitable group? oh aye Ive heard of them they were buying Newcastle werent they? must be a big company then, could be worth doing business with them".

Hes a good lad that Matt.

Well they have continually been in the papers about this and that....Who knows. I think they might have been on Watchdog once or twice n'all

Simple honest answer? No. There is little chance we can influence the sale of the club, what we can and are doing is promoting the importance of the fans to the buyers. We dont know who they are obviously but we provide information to the press, the club and Seymour Pierce if required. Showing them that regardless of what went on last season, buy this club, do right by it and you'll not find a better place to own as far as the fans are concerned. When this club is doing well the merchandising sales go through the roof, season tickets would be back up to 40k+ and there'd be a queue round the back of the Gallowgate to snap up the couple of thousand general sale tickets. I guess the NUSC could come out publically and ask for information but chances are that the stock answers of "confidentiality clauses" would just be trotted out and frankly personally I dont want to hear Decka open his mouth as I dont trust a word coming out of it. Its got to the point where I long to hear him say "me and Mike are here for the long term, see you next week." as then Id have a glimmer of hope that they were about to depart.

At about the same time Shearer was supposedly identifying players to sign (even though he wasn't manager) and Bassong was being offered a new and much improved contract to stay though so you take everything with a liberal dose of salt. Im guessing the Government will have to mobilise a medical task force up here soon with the dangerous levels of salt we're now taking each day.

Cheers for that HF, Ive passed your comments onto Colin who says the cheques in the post

A lad at work has a mate who did have a good job at the club, as part of his role he had to speak to the manager two or three times a week, every time seemingly when he went to Kinnears office he was sitting watching the telly. Not a game, not research on our next opponents or anything like that but actually sitting watching the likes of This Morning.

hmmm for some reason hes not added the nusc and never comes up as a friend suggestion. wow that friend suggestion code is pretty clever

Newcastle were worth 450m not so long ago Yeah but that was before Fat Ash, what you're proposing is to hand the money to him and hope he doubles it? No it will allow MA to walk away, and someone to come in with no debt. If thats the case then whoever comes in would need to run that, nobody would buy a football club knowing that it had x thousand shareholders all looking to cash in when you do well. if however they came in bought the club and then offered to sell a stake in the club to the NUSC then I would be more than happy.

Newcastle were worth 450m not so long ago Yeah but that was before Fat Ash, what you're proposing is to hand the money to him and hope he doubles it?

Or I could just flush a ton down the bog.... at least Id get to see it go.

If a football club goes into Adminstration then the first thing that has to be paid is the players contracts, unlike a normal business that comes before the tax man even.

Yeah but are you talking decent sized in relation to height?

Seriously if they were mechanics most doctors would be out of fucking work, useless cunts. It no wonder Ashley hasn't decided to go back to uni and study medicine - his lack of understanding to everything would make him perfect for a career as a doctor.

You'd lose your cash then. I had one that Facebook binned for Dennis Wise but Ive not started a Decka one, thats how you'd know if it was me "Decka Llambias"

I have a dedicated media PC connected to my 46" Sony Bravia LCD through bog standard VGA and its no bother at all.

Fish, Great idea 6 hours ago Well considering the amount of time I spend on the thing, I've not seen owt http://www.facebook.com/people/NewcastleUn...1#s104911473670

Fish, Great idea 6 hours ago

Firstly, we are running a petition (which I believe is going to be supported by Lee Ryder in the Ronnie later (famous last words there!)) to show that we are all behind the sale of the club and to try and show how important it is to the fans that this is sorted sooner rather than later. http://www.nusc.org.uk/petition.php secondly, its another roadshow tonight, this time at Alan Foggons pub (The Simonside Arms) in South Shields. Further info can be found at http://nusc.org.uk/event_information.php?event=16

plus the rumours around any kind of land or property now being owned by St James' Holdings rather than NUFC so (if all these things are true and therefore worst case scenario). A championship football club for £100m that comes with approx £220m debt and has no actual tangible assets (other than players), the same Championship football club that a mere two years ago was purchased for a total price of £244m (£134m sale price plus £100m debt 'restructuring') while a Premiership football club with a number of land and property assests. Its a deal, its a steal, its the saleofthefuckincentury

The word on the street is that the £100-150m owed to Ashley is still part of the deal, its just that the new owners have two years to pay it.

Shearer is a relatively unknown prospect when it comes th management however having the likes of Dowie alongside him would give the experience needed. Added to that his understanding of the club, knowledge of the players and general standing in the game and I think hes a fairly good choice. Irrespecitve however hes the only choice we have, I dont see others beating the door down begging for the position, anyone we do get is going to be a Yes man under Ashley and most likely just in it for the money. So there are others out there with way more experience but its highly unlikely we would get them and added to that they would be starting on the back foot anyway knowing the fans and players wanted Shearer here.